I looked up John and Charlotte Witzel on the 1880 census for you and found: 1880 Fannin Co., GA. Mobile, p. 637-D John C. Witzel 67 NC Charlotte T. Witzel wife 50 NC Margerett G. Crumby dau 23 GA. John grson 23 GA Poley grson 6 GA This is from the LDS census CD's and how they have them listed. Hope this helps you. Nancy ----- Original Message ----- From: "dwchambers" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 2:18 PM Subject: Re: [CRUMLEY] To Kenneth & Clara Crumbly > At 07:17 PM 4/11/2002 -0400, you wrote: > >Yes I had seen that the other day in one of your postings to me. > > > >Well here is the problem with these twins. > > > >If Margaret's husband William Erwin shot her grandfather in 1858 and > >Margaret moved back home to her parents, then might these twins be the > >children of Margaret instead of Charlotte? > > > >Truett Crumley says that all of Charles Thomas Crumley family moved to MO > >somewhere around this time. He even has a wife's name for William Erwin. > >So do the dates in the Witzel family line support that these children are > >children of Margaret not of her mother Charlotte? My data is not that good > >here because I had to assume a birthdate for Charlotte (b.abt. 1821) I do > >know for 100% accurate that John Witzel and Charlotte attended the wedding > >of her brother, and my ggrandfather William Oliver to Elizabeth Angeline > >Patterson. So I know her maiden name was Crumbly. What do the Witzel > >researchers say is the birthdate of William Erwin or Margaret Witzel???? > > > >Comments? > >Ken > ========== > Hi Ken, Here is the comment by a Wetzel descendant: > > "About the email from Ken, could you please convey to him that on the "1860" > census the twins were 4 years old. That would be two years before the murder > in 1858. > > If you subtract 4 from 1860 you come up with 1856 which is 2 years before > the death of Margaret's grandfather! > > If those twins were born in 1856, they could have been Charlottes or > Margaret's children. Guess this is one more problem to solve! > > I wonder if these two little boys appeared on the 1870 or 1880 census, that > census might help clear this up." > > Best regards, Doyle > > > > > > ______________________________________________________ > Research site: > http://www.dwchambers.com > >