You're right, Arlettia, that these wills would be too early to mention Hannah Crumley. Online information (you know what I think of that) suggests John Mercer died, as you suggest, in 1749. Again, based on online information, Hannah had a sister Elizabeth - maybe she married a Morris. But, as you say, if the will is dated 1760, it's too early. There's only about a 9- or 10-year period in which Hannah was married to William Crumley, so any will naming her Crumley would have to have been written then. The online stuff is obviously suspect, but if you don't just assume it's true, it can sometimes give you good leads. For example, I see that Hannah's ancestors are traced back five generations into Ireland. It shouldn't be that difficult to check this out: John Mercer, b. 1594 in Ireland Rev. John Amos Mercer, b. 1620 in Hillsboro, County Down, Ireland; m. Elizabeth Aaron Moses Louis Mercer, b. 1654 in Hillsboro, County Down, Ireland; m. Lizzie Miller John Mercer, b. 1676 in Elizabeth, NJ; m. Sarah Moore Edward Mercer, b. 1704; m. Ann Coats Hannah Mercer, m. William Crumley -----Original Message----- From: Arlettia [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2002 2:38 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [CRUMLEY] James' children Hello Ken, Thanks so for the offer. I show it was her brother, John, who named her. She was also named in the will of Elizabeth Morris in 1760. Hannah wasn't married yet. My records show John died in 1749, unmarried. His will is on file and his father, Edward Mercer, was his administrator. ( Will book 1, pg 351) As I'm also showing that William and Hannah were married around 1763 0r 1764 from ages of children, it doesn't look like she would have been married when she inherited from these two wills, I'm afraid. Edward Mercer's will is dated 1762 and proved in 1763 and at that time she wasn't married, so it doesn't look like these two wills will be our answer. I hadn't look that deep until you asked. But - here's a thought. Maybe she inherited property that she carried into her marriage. There might be help there after all. Arlettia Crumley Fyfe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kenneth & Clara Crumbly" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2002 9:47 AM Subject: Re: [CRUMLEY] James' children > Can you provide me Hannah Mercer's brother's name and I will search the > Library of VA in Richmond for a copy of the will. > > Ken > At 11:20 AM 4/20/02 -0600, you wrote: > >Hello > > I do agree with Paul on this one. Too much has just been passed from one > >to another with nothing supporting it, until it finally is treated as fact. > > And, Paul, I have heard where Hannah Mercer was named in her brother's > >will, but have never seen it. I wonder if anyone on line has a copy of it. > >If it is dated after the date of the marriage it would have her married name > >and that would do it. > > Arlettia Crumley Fyfe > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Paul Nichols" <[email protected]> > >To: <[email protected]> > >Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2002 9:09 AM > >Subject: RE: [CRUMLEY] James' children > > > > > > > I believe there is no credible evidence that James Crumley was born in > >1712. > > > It will be important for us to separate real documentation from sources > >such > > > as Family Tree Maker and LDS. > > > paul > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Jerry Crumly [mailto:[email protected]] > > > Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2002 9:47 AM > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: Re: [CRUMLEY] James' children > > > > > > > > l info that I have point to James` birthdate as 1712. > > > Truett Sr. > > > > > > This isn't from the LDS data by itself, is it? I've never seen that year > > > mentioned anywhere else. > > > Jerry > > > > > > > > > > >

Paul, I have the date and book number of Paul's will. That should be easy to check, and I don't think that is on line info. I believe, but not positive, I picked it up in Salt Lake out of a index of wills. The other, your right, came from another researcher. One of the main Mercer researchers doesn't even recognize Hannah - period. But maybe by going to the Mercer list someone might have some information there. Anything is worth a try. Arlettia Crumley Fyfe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Nichols" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2002 11:02 AM Subject: RE: [CRUMLEY] James' children > You're right, Arlettia, that these wills would be too early to mention > Hannah Crumley. Online information (you know what I think of that) suggests > John Mercer died, as you suggest, in 1749. Again, based on online > information, Hannah had a sister Elizabeth - maybe she married a Morris. > But, as you say, if the will is dated 1760, it's too early. There's only > about a 9- or 10-year period in which Hannah was married to William Crumley, > so any will naming her Crumley would have to have been written then. > > The online stuff is obviously suspect, but if you don't just assume it's > true, it can sometimes give you good leads. For example, I see that Hannah's > ancestors are traced back five generations into Ireland. It shouldn't be > that difficult to check this out: > John Mercer, b. 1594 in Ireland > Rev. John Amos Mercer, b. 1620 in Hillsboro, County Down, Ireland; m. > Elizabeth Aaron > Moses Louis Mercer, b. 1654 in Hillsboro, County Down, Ireland; m. Lizzie > Miller > John Mercer, b. 1676 in Elizabeth, NJ; m. Sarah Moore > Edward Mercer, b. 1704; m. Ann Coats > Hannah Mercer, m. William Crumley > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Arlettia [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2002 2:38 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [CRUMLEY] James' children > > Hello Ken, > Thanks so for the offer. I show it was her brother, John, who named > her. She was also named in the will of Elizabeth Morris in 1760. Hannah > wasn't married yet. > My records show John died in 1749, unmarried. His will is on file and > his father, Edward Mercer, was his administrator. ( Will book 1, pg 351) > As I'm also showing that William and Hannah were married around 1763 0r > 1764 from ages of children, it doesn't look like she would have been married > when she inherited from these two wills, I'm afraid. Edward Mercer's will > is dated 1762 and proved in 1763 and at that time she wasn't married, so it > doesn't look like these two wills will be our answer. I hadn't look that > deep until you asked. > But - here's a thought. Maybe she inherited property that she carried > into her marriage. There might be help there after all. > Arlettia Crumley Fyfe > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kenneth & Clara Crumbly" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2002 9:47 AM > Subject: Re: [CRUMLEY] James' children > > > > Can you provide me Hannah Mercer's brother's name and I will search the > > Library of VA in Richmond for a copy of the will. > > > > Ken > > At 11:20 AM 4/20/02 -0600, you wrote: > > >Hello > > > I do agree with Paul on this one. Too much has just been passed from > one > > >to another with nothing supporting it, until it finally is treated as > fact. > > > And, Paul, I have heard where Hannah Mercer was named in her > brother's > > >will, but have never seen it. I wonder if anyone on line has a copy of > it. > > >If it is dated after the date of the marriage it would have her married > name > > >and that would do it. > > > Arlettia Crumley Fyfe > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: "Paul Nichols" <[email protected]> > > >To: <[email protected]> > > >Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2002 9:09 AM > > >Subject: RE: [CRUMLEY] James' children > > > > > > > > > > I believe there is no credible evidence that James Crumley was born in > > >1712. > > > > It will be important for us to separate real documentation from > sources > > >such > > > > as Family Tree Maker and LDS. > > > > paul > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Jerry Crumly [mailto:[email protected]] > > > > Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2002 9:47 AM > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > Subject: Re: [CRUMLEY] James' children > > > > > > > > > > l info that I have point to James` birthdate as 1712. > > > > Truett Sr. > > > > > > > > This isn't from the LDS data by itself, is it? I've never seen that > year > > > > mentioned anywhere else. > > > > Jerry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >