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    1. Re: [CRUMLEY] 1850 census
    2. Truett Crumley

    3. Alan, in your listing of Isaac Crumley children, you listed Lydia with 1857, was this her birth, marriage, or death? The man she md was b. 1820 and d. in 1892. EXPLAIN. Rachel Brown (1st spouse) d. bef 1850 Census of Lee Co., Va.. Isaac md Mary B Gibson (2nd spouse) probable in 1851. Alan, there was a Isaac Crumley enlisted in the 64th Va. Infantry during the Civil War. WAS THIS ISAAC - THE FATHER OR SON? Let me hear from you ASAP. Truett Sr. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan T. Leach" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2002 7:10 PM Subject: Re: [CRUMLEY] 1850 census > Truett, Isaac only had 11 children that I know of. They are: > > 1 Isaac Crumley 1797 - 1887 > . +Rachel Brown 1785 - > .......... 2 Lydia Crumley - 1857 > .............. +Valentine S. Babb 1820 - 1892 > .......... 2 T. P. Crumley > .......... 2 William P. Crumley 1824 - 1862 > .............. +Elizabeth Deemer - 1912 > .......... 2 Sylvanus Goodson Crumley 1826 - 1918 > .............. +Martha Jane Wynkoop 1836 - 1915 > .......... 2 Hannah H. Crumley 1828 - 1918 > .............. +William K. Babb - 1855 > .......... *2nd Husband of Hannah H. Crumley: > .............. +Thomas J. Smith - 1880 > .......... 2 Isaac D. Crumley 1830 - 1862 > .............. +Mary B. Smith 1837 - 1863 > .......... 2 Asenath Crumley 1832 - 1910 > .............. +Isaac H. Brown 1828 - 1863 > .......... *2nd Husband of Asenath Crumley: > .............. +John B. John > .......... 2 Mary Ann Crumley 1834 - > .............. +Watson Bell > .......... 2 Jacob Hicks Crumley 1837 - 1919 > .............. +Sarah Scott 1839 - > .......... 2 Jotham Crumley 1839 - 1862 > .......... 2 Alfred Crumley 1840 - 1909 > .............. +Matilda Rinehart 1844 - 1895 > *2nd Wife of Isaac Crumley: > . +Mary B. Gibson 1811 - 1862 > > > Truett Crumley wrote: > > > Alan Leach, would you again list the 14 children of this ISAAC Crumley who > > died in Greene Co., Iowa? I can only list 9 which are: 1 - Wm P (1824); > > 2 - Silvanus (1826); 3 - Hannah H. (1828); 4 - Isaac Jr. (1830); 5 - Asenath > > (1832); 6 - Mary A. (1834); 7 - Jacob Hicks (1836); 8 - Jotham (1838); and > > Alfred (1840). Alan, let me hear from you. Truett Sr. > > --- Original Message ----- > > From: "Alan T. Leach" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 8:47 PM > > Subject: Re: [CRUMLEY] 1850 census > > > > > #46 Isaac Crumley: James, William, William > > > > > > Note, many sources on the Internet have Isaac born in 1787 and marrying > > Rachel > > > Brown 1805. One source has him born in 1797 and marrying in 1815, and I > > believe > > > this latter source is correct, because Isaac was listed in the 1850 census > > as > > > being 52/53 years old, and his death was recorded in Greene County, Iowa > > on 10 > > > Feb 1887 at the age of 90. Three of his older children (William P. > > Crumley, > > > Sylvanus Goodson Crumley and Lydia (Crumley) Babb) west west in a covered > > wagon > > > in 1850. Isaac, with his second wife, followed in 1852 with the rest of > > his 11 > > > children. I have information on most of his children, but lack > > information on > > > one of the younger children, T. P. Crumley, who was still alive and living > > in > > > Twin Falls, Idaho at the time of the death of his brother Sylvanus Goodson > > in > > > 1918 at the age of 92. Does anyone have information on T. P. Crumley? > > > > > > Alan Leach > > > >

    04/27/2002 04:31:08
    1. Re: [CRUMLEY] 1850 census
    2. Alan T. Leach

    3. Truett, Lydia (Crumley) Babb died 2/19/1857. I do not have a birth or marriage date for her. She and Valentine S. Babb had 5 children, with 3 of these dying in infancy. The other 2 children are Emily Babb (1847-1892) and Amanda Babb (1853-1936). Valentine Babb went on to marry a second time. I cannot answer your other question about the Isaac Crumley in the Virginia 64th, except to say that it may be neither Isaac Crumley (father) or Isaac D. Crumley (son). At the outbreak of the civil war Isaac (father) would have been at least 64 years and hence unlikely to serve. While Isaac D. (son) would have been the right age, he was listed in the 1856 Iowa State census and was buried in Pleasant Hill Cemetery in Greene County, Iowa having died 2/27/1862 and hence had probably not been in Virginia for some time. However, the Roster of Union Soldiers for Iowa as supplied by the US Army shows Alfred Crumly and Jotham Crumly (both without the e, and both Isaac D's brothers) in the Iowa 10th, but there is no mention of an Isaac. Alan Leach Truett Crumley wrote: > Alan, in your listing of Isaac Crumley children, you listed Lydia with 1857, > was this her birth, marriage, or death? The man she md was b. 1820 and d. > in 1892. EXPLAIN. Rachel Brown (1st spouse) d. bef 1850 Census of Lee Co., > Va.. Isaac md Mary B Gibson (2nd spouse) probable in 1851. Alan, there > was a Isaac Crumley enlisted in the 64th Va. Infantry during the Civil War. > WAS THIS ISAAC - THE FATHER OR SON? Let me hear from you ASAP. Truett > Sr. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alan T. Leach" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2002 7:10 PM > Subject: Re: [CRUMLEY] 1850 census > > > Truett, Isaac only had 11 children that I know of. They are: > > > > 1 Isaac Crumley 1797 - 1887 > > . +Rachel Brown 1785 - > > .......... 2 Lydia Crumley - 1857 > > .............. +Valentine S. Babb 1820 - 1892 > > .......... 2 T. P. Crumley > > .......... 2 William P. Crumley 1824 - 1862 > > .............. +Elizabeth Deemer - 1912 > > .......... 2 Sylvanus Goodson Crumley 1826 - 1918 > > .............. +Martha Jane Wynkoop 1836 - 1915 > > .......... 2 Hannah H. Crumley 1828 - 1918 > > .............. +William K. Babb - 1855 > > .......... *2nd Husband of Hannah H. Crumley: > > .............. +Thomas J. Smith - 1880 > > .......... 2 Isaac D. Crumley 1830 - 1862 > > .............. +Mary B. Smith 1837 - 1863 > > .......... 2 Asenath Crumley 1832 - 1910 > > .............. +Isaac H. Brown 1828 - 1863 > > .......... *2nd Husband of Asenath Crumley: > > .............. +John B. John > > .......... 2 Mary Ann Crumley 1834 - > > .............. +Watson Bell > > .......... 2 Jacob Hicks Crumley 1837 - 1919 > > .............. +Sarah Scott 1839 - > > .......... 2 Jotham Crumley 1839 - 1862 > > .......... 2 Alfred Crumley 1840 - 1909 > > .............. +Matilda Rinehart 1844 - 1895 > > *2nd Wife of Isaac Crumley: > > . +Mary B. Gibson 1811 - 1862 > > > > > > Truett Crumley wrote: > > > > > Alan Leach, would you again list the 14 children of this ISAAC Crumley > who > > > died in Greene Co., Iowa? I can only list 9 which are: 1 - Wm P > (1824); > > > 2 - Silvanus (1826); 3 - Hannah H. (1828); 4 - Isaac Jr. (1830); 5 - > Asenath > > > (1832); 6 - Mary A. (1834); 7 - Jacob Hicks (1836); 8 - Jotham (1838); > and > > > Alfred (1840). Alan, let me hear from you. Truett Sr. > > > --- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Alan T. Leach" <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 8:47 PM > > > Subject: Re: [CRUMLEY] 1850 census > > > > > > > #46 Isaac Crumley: James, William, William > > > > > > > > Note, many sources on the Internet have Isaac born in 1787 and > marrying > > > Rachel > > > > Brown 1805. One source has him born in 1797 and marrying in 1815, and > I > > > believe > > > > this latter source is correct, because Isaac was listed in the 1850 > census > > > as > > > > being 52/53 years old, and his death was recorded in Greene County, > Iowa > > > on 10 > > > > Feb 1887 at the age of 90. Three of his older children (William P. > > > Crumley, > > > > Sylvanus Goodson Crumley and Lydia (Crumley) Babb) west west in a > covered > > > wagon > > > > in 1850. Isaac, with his second wife, followed in 1852 with the rest > of > > > his 11 > > > > children. I have information on most of his children, but lack > > > information on > > > > one of the younger children, T. P. Crumley, who was still alive and > living > > > in > > > > Twin Falls, Idaho at the time of the death of his brother Sylvanus > Goodson > > > in > > > > 1918 at the age of 92. Does anyone have information on T. P. Crumley? > > > > > > > > Alan Leach > > > > > >

    04/29/2002 02:48:12
    1. Re: [CRUMLEY] 1850 census
    2. Truett Crumley

    3. Alan, could you tell me where Lydia was born? Where did she marry Valentine Babb? Where did she die? Who did the two girls (Emily and Amanda) marry? Truett Sr. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan T. Leach" al<[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 8:48 PM Subject: Re: [CRUMLEY] 1850 census > Truett, > > Lydia (Crumley) Babb died 2/19/1857. I do not have a birth or marriage date for > her. She and Valentine S. Babb had 5 children, with 3 of these dying in > infancy. The other 2 children are Emily Babb (1847-1892) and Amanda Babb > (1853-1936). Valentine Babb went on to marry a second time. > > I cannot answer your other question about the Isaac Crumley in the Virginia > 64th, except to say that it may be neither Isaac Crumley (father) or Isaac D. > Crumley (son). At the outbreak of the civil war Isaac (father) would have been > at least 64 years and hence unlikely to serve. While Isaac D. (son) would have > been the right age, he was listed in the 1856 Iowa State census and was buried > in Pleasant Hill Cemetery in Greene County, Iowa having died 2/27/1862 and hence > had probably not been in Virginia for some time. However, the Roster of Union > Soldiers for Iowa as supplied by the US Army shows Alfred Crumly and Jotham > Crumly (both without the e, and both Isaac D's brothers) in the Iowa 10th, but > there is no mention of an Isaac. > > Alan Leach > > Truett Crumley wrote: > > > Alan, in your listing of Isaac Crumley children, you listed Lydia with 1857, > > was this her birth, marriage, or death? The man she md was b. 1820 and d. > > in 1892. EXPLAIN. Rachel Brown (1st spouse) d. bef 1850 Census of Lee Co., > > Va.. Isaac md Mary B Gibson (2nd spouse) probable in 1851. Alan, there > > was a Isaac Crumley enlisted in the 64th Va. Infantry during the Civil War. > > WAS THIS ISAAC - THE FATHER OR SON? Let me hear from you ASAP. Truett > > Sr. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Alan T. Leach" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2002 7:10 PM > > Subject: Re: [CRUMLEY] 1850 census > > > > > Truett, Isaac only had 11 children that I know of. They are: > > > > > > 1 Isaac Crumley 1797 - 1887 > > > . +Rachel Brown 1785 - > > > .......... 2 Lydia Crumley - 1857 > > > .............. +Valentine S. Babb 1820 - 1892 > > > .......... 2 T. P. Crumley > > > .......... 2 William P. Crumley 1824 - 1862 > > > .............. +Elizabeth Deemer - 1912 > > > .......... 2 Sylvanus Goodson Crumley 1826 - 1918 > > > .............. +Martha Jane Wynkoop 1836 - 1915 > > > .......... 2 Hannah H. Crumley 1828 - 1918 > > > .............. +William K. Babb - 1855 > > > .......... *2nd Husband of Hannah H. Crumley: > > > .............. +Thomas J. Smith - 1880 > > > .......... 2 Isaac D. Crumley 1830 - 1862 > > > .............. +Mary B. Smith 1837 - 1863 > > > .......... 2 Asenath Crumley 1832 - 1910 > > > .............. +Isaac H. Brown 1828 - 1863 > > > .......... *2nd Husband of Asenath Crumley: > > > .............. +John B. John > > > .......... 2 Mary Ann Crumley 1834 - > > > .............. +Watson Bell > > > .......... 2 Jacob Hicks Crumley 1837 - 1919 > > > .............. +Sarah Scott 1839 - > > > .......... 2 Jotham Crumley 1839 - 1862 > > > .......... 2 Alfred Crumley 1840 - 1909 > > > .............. +Matilda Rinehart 1844 - 1895 > > > *2nd Wife of Isaac Crumley: > > > . +Mary B. Gibson 1811 - 1862 > > > > > > > > > Truett Crumley wrote: > > > > > > > Alan Leach, would you again list the 14 children of this ISAAC Crumley > > who > > > > died in Greene Co., Iowa? I can only list 9 which are: 1 - Wm P > > (1824); > > > > 2 - Silvanus (1826); 3 - Hannah H. (1828); 4 - Isaac Jr. (1830); 5 - > > Asenath > > > > (1832); 6 - Mary A. (1834); 7 - Jacob Hicks (1836); 8 - Jotham (1838); > > and > > > > Alfred (1840). Alan, let me hear from you. Truett Sr. > > > > --- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Alan T. Leach" <[email protected]> > > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 8:47 PM > > > > Subject: Re: [CRUMLEY] 1850 census > > > > > > > > > #46 Isaac Crumley: James, William, William > > > > > > > > > > Note, many sources on the Internet have Isaac born in 1787 and > > marrying > > > > Rachel > > > > > Brown 1805. One source has him born in 1797 and marrying in 1815, and > > I > > > > believe > > > > > this latter source is correct, because Isaac was listed in the 1850 > > census > > > > as > > > > > being 52/53 years old, and his death was recorded in Greene County, > > Iowa > > > > on 10 > > > > > Feb 1887 at the age of 90. Three of his older children (William P. > > > > Crumley, > > > > > Sylvanus Goodson Crumley and Lydia (Crumley) Babb) west west in a > > covered > > > > wagon > > > > > in 1850. Isaac, with his second wife, followed in 1852 with the rest > > of > > > > his 11 > > > > > children. I have information on most of his children, but lack > > > > information on > > > > > one of the younger children, T. P. Crumley, who was still alive and > > living > > > > in > > > > > Twin Falls, Idaho at the time of the death of his brother Sylvanus > > Goodson > > > > in > > > > > 1918 at the age of 92. Does anyone have information on T. P. Crumley? > > > > > > > > > > Alan Leach > > > > > > > > >

    05/16/2002 09:00:39