I spent a lot of time researching William's children, and would be glad to coordinate our efforts on those lines. Within the last couple of years, I have been in contact with descendents of several of his 15 children (7 sons and 8 daughters), some recently. I've commented before how many more list members seem to be descended from John than from William. Incidentally, among John's five known children, neither Henry nor Samuel has any known descendents. His daughter Mary had children by Thomas Doster, and maybe also by Jesse Faulkner. I'm fairly sure that all of our list members who are descended from James Crumley are descendents of either John or William. paul -----Original Message----- From: Jerry Crumly [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 11:24 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [CRUMLEY] Chairpersons We need a chairman for each of James' children. That person will be responsible for finding chairpersons for each of that ancestor's children, etc, until the line has been pretty well filled out. It's going to get a lot of people involved. We need to define an initial stopping point. 1830 is an good place to stop; it's a century of Crumley "multiplication." As each line is completed to 1830, we can add the next generations up to, say, 1900. Even that may be too ambitious. Here are James and Catharine's issue as I have it: John, William, Mary, Henry, Samuel. If you're from either of these lines, please feel free to volunteer your energy for this project. Regarding the non-James related Crumley families; I admit I'm not too sure how many there are. Valentine and George come to mind. If someone has a handle on those lines, please speak up and let's get started on them too. Jerry

> I spent a lot of time researching William's children, and would be glad to > coordinate our efforts on those lines. That's what we were hoping for, Paul. No one has more knowledge of that line than you do. >Within the last couple of years, I > have been in contact with descendents of several of his 15 children (7 sons > and 8 daughters), some recently. I've commented before how many more list > members seem to be descended from John than from William. It appears more are descended for William. He had 15 children? > Incidentally, among James' five known children, neither Henry nor Samuel has > any known descendents. His daughter Mary had children by Thomas Doster, and > maybe also by Jesse Faulkner. I'm fairly sure that all of our list members > who are descended from James Crumley are descendents of either John or > William. That should make it a little easier. Ask whomever you want to assist you in putting together the William line. If its easier for you to go to 1830 and then take a breath, do it that way. It'll give Laurie time to get that much posted. The next years can be added when this whole thing gets up to speed. Jerry

Which line, Jean? John, William, Mary, Henry or Samuel? The chair of each line will put together a tree of sub chairs for each of the children of these people, then follow up to ensure everyone is covered down to 1830 initially. That's 100 years of James and Catherine descendants, about five generations. Want to do that? Jerry > Hi, Jerry--that's my line. What (and how) can I do to contribute? > > Jean Crumley Barbour

Hi Crumley Cousins! Didn't want you all to think that I had 'Run for the Hills' after volunteering my services, so I am checking in. It has been quite a week! My 16 year old son came down with Chicken Pox of all things and has had quite a rough time of it. Also, one of my co-workers ended up in the hospital due to a diabetic coma, so I will be covering his graveyard shift for the rest of the week. YIKES! We work 10 hour shifts and graveyard is my least favorite. Plus, I have Classes on Mental Health Friday, Monday & Wednesday, so if you don't hear from me, don't worry...I'm watching, listening, and will be planning on the set-up. Haven't had time to check out the PAF Program yet, but will in between other things. Wishing You All a Lovely Evening! Sincerely, Laurie (Mama said there'd be days like this!) :-) At 06:20 PM 04/17/2002 -0500, you wrote: > > I spent a lot of time researching William's children, and would be glad to > > coordinate our efforts on those lines. > >That's what we were hoping for, Paul. No one has more knowledge of that line >than you do. > > >Within the last couple of years, I > > have been in contact with descendents of several of his 15 children (7 >sons > > and 8 daughters), some recently. I've commented before how many more list > > members seem to be descended from John than from William. > >It appears more are descended for William. He had 15 children? > > > Incidentally, among James' five known children, neither Henry nor Samuel >has > > any known descendents. His daughter Mary had children by Thomas Doster, >and > > maybe also by Jesse Faulkner. I'm fairly sure that all of our list >members > > who are descended from James Crumley are descendents of either John or > > William. > >That should make it a little easier. > >Ask whomever you want to assist you in putting together the William line. If >its easier for you to go to 1830 and then take a breath, do it that way. >It'll give Laurie time to get that much posted. The next years can be added >when this whole thing gets up to speed. > >Jerry "The future belongs to those who believe in the beauty of their dreams." -Eleanor Roosevelt

In a message dated 4/17/2002 11:26:29 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > If you're from either of these lines, please feel free to volunteer your > energy for this project. > Hi, Jerry--that's my line. What (and how) can I do to contribute? Jean Crumley Barbour

> [James -> John -> Thomas -> Henry M -> Leander F -> James A -> Roy S -> General > M] > > My name is Richard Charles Crumley. <snip> > How could I help? Whoever takes the chair for that line will most certainly require your input. Jerry

Hey, cousins, this is good stuff. We've got to ensure everything is perfectly correct before we post it on our site. Once it's posted EVERYONE will assume it's true. Please, don't anyone be embarrassed if someone else points out an error. We ALL have errors in our material. I wrote a book on my lineage and spelled my g-grandfather's first name incorrectly throughout the chapter on him. Jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [CRUMLEY] Jack Clark & Jane Crumly family > > Donna - I think I must have confused you when I posted on the RootsWeb > > site re: > > > > Thomas Jefferson Crumley m. Nancy Ann Hickey > > > > Unless there are two Thomas Jefferson Crumleys and two Nancy Hickeys, your > > posting on Ancestry.com is not correct. I know you would not want to be > > claiming the wrong ancestors (embarrassing,huh?) so I am asking that you > > remove the error (caused by me, I am sure) from Ancestry.com. > > > > In order to help you sort out all of these Toms and Johns, <snip>

All, [James -> John -> Thomas -> Henry M -> Leander F -> James A -> Roy S -> General M] My name is Richard Charles Crumley. I descend from James -> John. I use Family Tree Maker version 8.0 (to keep track of all the stuff y'all dig up). How could I help? Rich Jerry Crumly wrote: > I'm numbering my emails re organizing the building of our website so I can > keep track of each subject. This one concerns software. > > There are several ways to put all our data together for a website. One is to > send it all to the webmaster and have that person enter it name by name and > date by date. You shouldn't expect to see a completed site before the year > 2005. */;-) > > The simpler way is to send it via GEDCOM file to the webmaster and have it > entered via the genealogy software. This presupposes that everyone (or most > of us) has their data entered on some recognized genealogy software. I'm > using Personal Ancestor File (PAF) which can be downloaded for free from the > LDS website. This particular software will actually build you a website from > your data that fulfills most of our requirements. My guess is that the other > widely used software will do the same thing, i.e., Family Tree Maker (FTM), > Brother's Keeper (BK), etc. > > So as a first cut at organizing this monster, send us your name, James and > Catharine's child that you're descended from, (or George), and tell us what > software you're using. Please keep track of the responses from your > particular line, because one of you will have to become the chairperson of > that line. > > Jerry

> Donna - I think I must have confused you when I posted on the RootsWeb > site re: > > Thomas Jefferson Crumley m. Nancy Ann Hickey > > Unless there are two Thomas Jefferson Crumleys and two Nancy Hickeys, your > posting on Ancestry.com is not correct. I know you would not want to be > claiming the wrong ancestors (embarrassing,huh?) so I am asking that you > remove the error (caused by me, I am sure) from Ancestry.com. > > In order to help you sort out all of these Toms and Johns, I tried to > attach one of my family group pages, beginning with John B Crumley m. to > Rebecca Jones, parents of my g grandfather, THOMAS JEFFERSON CRUMLEY, who > lived his life out in Tennessee and Southwest Virginia and is thought to > have died in Hawkins County, TN. We have never checked this out, but it is > believed that my TJC is probably buried in the Crumley family cemetery near > Hickory Tree, TN. Please note also, that we have always had the spelling > Crumley. > > I am not a genealogist, Donna, but it seems that it is like knitting a long > afghan. If, at the beginning, you purl where you should knit you will > have a lot of raveling to do and then re-knit! > > TJC's son (Herbert Jefferson Crumley, my grandfather) worked for the > Southern RR out of Bristol VA. When he married, they moved to Richmond, VA > and I have spent most of my seventy-four years in and around the > still-proud Capitol of the Confederacy! > > If you find that my records are incorrect, please let me know - 'twould be > much appreciated! > > Fondly - Your Cousin (to what degree, I don't know) Eleanor Gay Grande > > PS - If you would like to see the family sheet that I failed to attach, Nancy Lambert has a copy. She is younger, smarter (probably prettier) than me and can whiz that stuff right on thru the net!

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------C85B85C545B8945A1D7844E5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: John Elwood Crumley Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 00:15:42 -0500 From: "Billy Cox" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Hi Donna, I'm not sure who wants this information but I hope you do and will pass it on. I've went through about half of my files and found nothing yest on the murder in Fannin County, Ga. I did find a death certificate for John Elwood and his wife Susan Cox Crumley. John Elwood Crumley was born (looks like April 26, 1856). Date of death is March 29, 1936, in Barry County, Missouri. He was 79 years 9 months and 3 days old. He was born in Fannin County, Georgia. His father's name was Ervin Crumley, born in Georgia and his mother's maiden name was Taylor, born in Georgia. The death certificate was filled out by, Ervin Crumley, Stark City, Missouri. He is buried in Mt. Olive Cemetery in Lawrence County, Missouri Susan B. Cox Crumley was 3 -13 -1858 and died April 6, 1936 in Barry County. Susan and her parents were born in Georgia The Informant was Elwood Crumley of Fairview, Missouri Susan was buried in Mt. Olive Cemetery Missouri State Board of Health file number on John Elwood Crumley is 9150 On Susan its 13971 The attending doctor is S.A. Russell or Fairview, Missouri Bradley funeral Home of Fairview was in charge on both deaths. Hope this helps someone. I'm still looking. Bill --------------C85B85C545B8945A1D7844E5 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=UTF-8; name="Donna.Hamby.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Donna Hamby Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Donna.Hamby.vcf" begin:vcard n:;Donna x-mozilla-html:FALSE adr:;;;;;; version:2.1 email;internet:[email protected] fn:Donna Hamby end:vcard --------------C85B85C545B8945A1D7844E5--

We need a chairman for each of James' children. That person will be responsible for finding chairpersons for each of that ancestor's children, etc, until the line has been pretty well filled out. It's going to get a lot of people involved. We need to define an initial stopping point. 1830 is an good place to stop; it's a century of Crumley "multiplication." As each line is completed to 1830, we can add the next generations up to, say, 1900. Even that may be too ambitious. Here are James and Catharine's issue as I have it: John, William, Mary, Henry, Samuel. If you're from either of these lines, please feel free to volunteer your energy for this project. Regarding the non-James related Crumley families; I admit I'm not too sure how many there are. Valentine and George come to mind. If someone has a handle on those lines, please speak up and let's get started on them too. Jerry

Ah ha. Looks like we've found the mother lode. It's premature to have this material posted yet, Nathan. We're not quite that far along. Jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nathan b Bratcher" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 10:57 PM Subject: Re: [CRUMLEY] website > http://www.planetkc.com/bratcher/idxc.htm#crumley > I have Crumley line in my database

Well also in the 1850 census some Crumbie names show up. I guess the people on both sides of the census taking could not read and write much less spell. Ken At 09:26 PM 4/16/02 -0400, you wrote: >Paul Nichols, >Was there another spelling missing from your list of the 1850 >folks...Crumby? In Gilmer CO. GA there are several Crumbys listed who are >not on your list. > >This is a great idea by the way. >Ken >

I certainly apologize to my dear cousin Eleanor for any confusion on my part. I don't believe I am any smarter (or prettier) but do know my cousin Eleanor is much more articulate, eloquent, wittier and gracious than I. It has to be that southern upbringing. My heart is in the south where all my ancestors were born and the same for my hubby's family. God bless, Nancy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Crumly" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 1:24 PM Subject: Re: [CRUMLEY] Jack Clark & Jane Crumly family > Hey, cousins, this is good stuff. We've got to ensure everything is > perfectly correct before we post it on our site. Once it's posted EVERYONE > will assume it's true. Please, don't anyone be embarrassed if someone else > points out an error. We ALL have errors in our material. I wrote a book on > my lineage and spelled my g-grandfather's first name incorrectly throughout > the chapter on him. > Jerry > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [CRUMLEY] Jack Clark & Jane Crumly family > > > > > Donna - I think I must have confused you when I posted on the RootsWeb > > > site re: > > > > > > Thomas Jefferson Crumley m. Nancy Ann Hickey > > > > > > Unless there are two Thomas Jefferson Crumleys and two Nancy Hickeys, > your > > > posting on Ancestry.com is not correct. I know you would not want to be > > > claiming the wrong ancestors (embarrassing,huh?) so I am asking that you > > > remove the error (caused by me, I am sure) from Ancestry.com. > > > > > > In order to help you sort out all of these Toms and Johns, > <snip> >

If they're related, lets add them to the list. Incidentally, Truett knows who many of these 1850 census Crumleys are, and will be sending me some information. I'll post whatever I get. Others from Harrison County, Ohio, appear to be: Three brothers: #45 Ira - Great-grandson of James (William, Thomas) #18 David - Great-grandson of James (William, Thomas) #33 James - Great-grandson of James (William, Thomas) #27 Emily - could be there sister (why would she have been a family head?) Also, #22 Edward M. - Great-grandson of James (William, Aaron) -----Original Message----- From: Kenneth & Clara Crumbly [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 9:26 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [CRUMLEY] Another spelling Paul Nichols, Was there another spelling missing from your list of the 1850 folks...Crumby? In Gilmer CO. GA there are several Crumbys listed who are not on your list. This is a great idea by the way. Ken

Paul Nichols, Was there another spelling missing from your list of the 1850 folks...Crumby? In Gilmer CO. GA there are several Crumbys listed who are not on your list. This is a great idea by the way. Ken

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------9F7BC9F10685811F2089DA2B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks Margie, I sure did. What a goof up. Jane and Robert were siblings. Donna Margie Skinner wrote: > Donna, > I think you may have added Robert between Benjamin and Jane by mistake? I > have: > James, John, Benjamin, Jane, Alfred, John Henry, Lois Mae Crumly Duke, Me > and > James, John, Thomas, Henry Morgan, John Clark, Alfred Clark, John Henry, > Lois Mae Crumly Duke, Me > I notice that on your family tree this is the way you have it listed also. > Veeeeery confusing. > Margie > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Donna Hamby" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 4:45 PM > Subject: Re: [CRUMLEY] Crumley website organization #1 > > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > --------------A4BB6040DAA92E4B3DC7F760 > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > > Donna Hamby ([email protected]) > > > > Family - James, John, Thomas, Henry M, John Clark, Alfred, John Henry, > Clarence > > Wesley, John Wilvie, Me. > > > > also > > > > James, John, Benjamin, Robert, Jane, Alfred, John Henry, Clarence Wesley, > John > > Wilvie, Me > > > > No wonder I am confused there was intermarriage here. > > > > I am really behind. I still have FTM 7.0 I think I ordered a later > version but > > have not seen it yet. > > > > Donna > > > > > > Jerry Crumly wrote: > > > > > I'm numbering my emails re organizing the building of our website so I > can > > > keep track of each subject. This one concerns software. > > > > > > There are several ways to put all our data together for a website. One > is to > > > send it all to the webmaster and have that person enter it name by name > and > > > date by date. You shouldn't expect to see a completed site before the > year > > > 2005. */;-) > > > > > > The simpler way is to send it via GEDCOM file to the webmaster and have > it > > > entered via the genealogy software. This presupposes that everyone (or > most > > > of us) has their data entered on some recognized genealogy software. I'm > > > using Personal Ancestor File (PAF) which can be downloaded for free from > the > > > LDS website. This particular software will actually build you a website > from > > > your data that fulfills most of our requirements. My guess is that the > other > > > widely used software will do the same thing, i.e., Family Tree Maker > (FTM), > > > Brother's Keeper (BK), etc. > > > > > > So as a first cut at organizing this monster, send us your name, James > and > > > Catharine's child that you're descended from, (or George), and tell us > what > > > software you're using. Please keep track of the responses from your > > > particular line, because one of you will have to become the chairperson > of > > > that line. > > > > > > Jerry > > > > --------------A4BB6040DAA92E4B3DC7F760 > > Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=UTF-8; > > name="Donna.Hamby.vcf" > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Content-Description: Card for Donna Hamby > > Content-Disposition: attachment; > > filename="Donna.Hamby.vcf" > > > > begin:vcard > > n:;Donna > > x-mozilla-html:FALSE > > adr:;;;;;; > > version:2.1 > > email;internet:[email protected] > > fn:Donna Hamby > > end:vcard > > > > --------------A4BB6040DAA92E4B3DC7F760-- > > > > --------------9F7BC9F10685811F2089DA2B Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=UTF-8; name="Donna.Hamby.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Donna Hamby Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Donna.Hamby.vcf" begin:vcard n:;Donna x-mozilla-html:FALSE adr:;;;;;; version:2.1 email;internet:[email protected] fn:Donna Hamby end:vcard --------------9F7BC9F10685811F2089DA2B--

Is there a G.Jeff Crumley active on this list? He did some work on the Harmon P. Crumley clan; incorporated that into some of Hugh Mottern's work (THE BOOK). A member of the Pippen family of Bristol, VA passed all this info on to my aunt, Iona Crumley Sacco. Our Bristol cousin (Pippen) had picked up the line beginning with John B. Crumley m. Rebecca Jones, and did a masterful job. Her compilation includes census records of Sullivan and Carter counties (TN) ,marriage records, cemetery records in those same counties and in Washington and Scott counties (VA). She gave us the census records pertaining to Thomas Jefferson Crumley (son of John B. and Rebecca Jones Crumley) for the years 1850, 1860, 1870, and 1900. Thomas Jefferson Crumley (b. 1829) m. Nancy Ann Hickey on Dec 26, 1858. They had several children; the youngest was Herbert Jefferson Crumley m. Ethel Gay MillerAug. 11, 1904. At this point, I got interested!! Herbert J. and Ethel Gay were my grandparents - they took me into their home and helped raise me from birth. They say that it is a wise child who knows his own parentage - I certainly knew my much loved 'Big Daddy' and 'Big Mama', and that I was the great-grandchild of Thomas Jefferson Crumley. My TJC might have slipped off to Georgia or elsewhere for some brief hanky-panky, but it is doubtful that he ever travelled away from Tennessee or Southwest Virginia. I am the elderly cousin of Nancy Lambert (and I hope I'm not confused about this!). My g grandfather is her gg grandfather. Did not intend to make this so long, but this ancestry thing is confusing enough - we don't want to get our lines tangled so much that we can't land the BIG ONE!!! Nancy has my permission to submit anything I have given her, including letters, pic's,etc. And it may be that I have some stuff here that would be helpful. We shall see! Cousin Eleanor Gay

When we put out a call for lineage inputs, please compare notes with Nancy Lambert and make sure we have it all. Thanks, Jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 2:11 PM Subject: Re: [CRUMLEY] Crumley website organization #1 <snip> > Nancy has my permission to submit anything I have given her, including > letters, pic's,etc. And it may be that I have some stuff here that would be > helpful. We shall see! > > Cousin Eleanor Gay

#14 Charles - Great-grandson of James (John, Benjamin) #85 Robert - Great-grandson of James (John, Benjamin) #67 John - LIKELY Great-grandson of James (John, Benjamin)