Paul , I recommend that the following be added to the 106. I have not attempted to put numbers to these. I don't know if you want to do an Annex #1 or use 107 etc. These are all listed as being in GA in 1850. Crumbey, Benjamin; Habersham Co. Page 256 Crumbie, James; Paulding, Co. Page 076 Crumbie, T.; Henry, Co. Page 260 Crumbie, William A.; Fayette, Co Page 034 Crumbie, William A.; Fayette, Co page 034 (this may be a duplication) Crumbig, J.; Henry, Co. Page 277 Crumbley, Jesse; Wilkes, Co. Page 343 Crumbley, John; Wilkes, Co. Page 342 Crumbley, Rebecca; Wilkes, Co. Page 342 Crumbley, Valentine; Wilkes, Co. Page 337 Crumbly, Duro; Wilkes, Co. Page 342 Crumby, Alexander; Walker, Co. Page 470 Crumby, Anthony, Stewart, Co. Page 139 Crumby, Benjamin; Gwinett, Co. Page 231 Crumby, Elender; Murray, Co. Page 273 Crumby, Emaline, Washington, Co. Page 265 Crumby, Henry; Walker, Co. Page 469 Crumby, Henry M.; Habersham, Co. Page 272 Crumby, James C.; Randolph, Co. Page 407 Crumby, John; Murray, Co. Page 273 Crumby, John; Gilmer, Co. Page 410 Crumby, Terrell; Gordon, Co. Page 040 Crumby, Thomas; Gordon, Co. Page 040 Crumby, Thomas; Walker, Co. Page 454 Crumby, Thomas C.; Gilmer, Co. Page 407 Crumby, William; Gwinnett, Co. Page 231 Crumby, William M.; Murray, Co. Page 189 Crumby, William S.; Habersham, Co. Page 258 I don't know either which way would be most helpful to the list. So I have sorted these same listings by page number. This also has a way of almost sorting by counties. At least it may help someone to see who was recorded on the same page. Crumbie, William A.; Fayette, Co Page 034 Crumbie, William A.; Fayette, Co page 034 (this may be a duplication) Crumby, Terrell; Gordon, Co. Page 040 Crumby, Thomas; Gordon, Co. Page 040 Crumbie, James; Paulding, Co. Page 076 Crumby, Anthony, Stewart, Co. Page 139 Crumby, William M.; Murray, Co. Page 189 Crumby, William; Gwinnett, Co. Page 231 Crumby, Benjamin; Gwinett, Co. Page 231 Crumbey, Benjamin; Habersham Co. Page 256 Crumby, William S.; Habersham, Co. Page 258 Crumbie, T.; Henry, Co. Page 260 Crumby, Emaline, Washington, Co. Page 265 Crumby, Henry M.; Habersham, Co. Page 272 Crumby, Elender; Murray, Co. Page 273 Crumby, John; Murray, Co. Page 273 Crumbig, J.; Henry, Co. Page 277 Crumbley, Valentine; Wilkes, Co. Page 337 Crumbley, Rebecca; Wilkes, Co. Page 342 Crumbly, Duro; Wilkes, Co. Page 342 Crumbley, John; Wilkes, Co. Page 342 Crumbley, Jesse; Wilkes, Co. Page 343 Crumby, James C.; Randolph, Co. Page 407 Crumby, Thomas C.; Gilmer, Co. Page 407 Crumby, John; Gilmer, Co. Page 410 Crumby, Thomas; Walker, Co. Page 454 Crumby, Henry; Walker, Co. Page 469 Crumby, Alexander; Walker, Co. Page 470 Two on the list may not belong to us. Crumbly, Duro in Wilkes Co and Crumbig, J.; Henry, Co. Page 277. I have not had time to search my database for these two. I think at this early stage Crumley Central is better served by putting them on until we can eliminate them. (Wow! that sounds harsh!) Laurie, the extras may better be listed on your list of unrelated Crumleys!

In a message dated 4/18/2002 9:46:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > know just when James was born either, do we? Or where, for that > matter. Then where did I get the information that James was born 1712 in Yorkshire County in England? Also, Fact 2 in Family Tree Maker file says he arrived in Chester Co., PA and purchased Opequan farm, 250 acres, from Giles Chapman, Sr. ??? Help, Truett :) Jean

In a message dated 4/18/2002 7:01:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > I meant to say William's children were likely listed in order by age in his > will. > pln > If you have a copy, would you please share? Jean

Hello I have never seen any evidence on the dates of birth for James' children. I have looked at church and Quaker records in the Chester Co, PA area with no luck. The genealogy my Grandfather had done shows a James Jr. This genealogy states: " James, although not mentioned in his father's will." As this genealogy is found in the Library of Congress and at the LDS, I think that is where people are picking it up. There is no evidence what so ever in this works to support this claim. I believe that a James Jr. should not be considered unless someone out there has documentation outside of this genealogy. We don't know just when James was born either, do we? Or where, for that matter. Several things have been picked up and included on assumptions that should now be looked at and not included, I think. Just my thoughts Arlettia Crumley Fyfe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Crumly" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 6:48 PM Subject: [CRUMLEY] James' children > > About James Crumley's children: I do not know of any evidence that there > > was a James, Jr. He did have a grandson James (William's first son) who > > stayed in Frederick County, Virginia - some of the information people have > > put online even has James, Jr. marrying Mary Stonebridge, who was the wife > > of grandson James. > > If no one can provide documentation, Paul, it shouldn't be on our website. > This is exactly the kind of thing we're trying to filter out. > > >Also, is there any evidence that the 5 children of James > > Crumley were born in 1733, 1735, 1737, 1739, and 1741 (and, especially, > > another one in 1743)? > > Good question. Anyone have an answer? > > Jerry > >

In a message dated 4/17/2002 11:41:12 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > > > > PS - If you would like to see the family sheet that I failed to attach, > Nancy Lambert has a copy. She is younger, smarter (probably prettier) than > me and can whiz that stuff right on thru the net! > i think she is right......no i know she is right........

In a message dated 4/17/2002 1:38:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > I certainly apologize to my dear cousin Eleanor for any confusion on my > part. > I don't believe I am any smarter (or prettier) but do know my cousin Eleanor > is much more articulate, eloquent, wittier and gracious than I. It has to > be that southern upbringing. > My heart is in the south where all my ancestors were born and the same for > my hubby's family. > God bless, > Nancy > loved this message from you.......lol

> About James Crumley's children: I do not know of any evidence that there > was a James, Jr. He did have a grandson James (William's first son) who > stayed in Frederick County, Virginia - some of the information people have > put online even has James, Jr. marrying Mary Stonebridge, who was the wife > of grandson James. If no one can provide documentation, Paul, it shouldn't be on our website. This is exactly the kind of thing we're trying to filter out. >Also, is there any evidence that the 5 children of James > Crumley were born in 1733, 1735, 1737, 1739, and 1741 (and, especially, > another one in 1743)? Good question. Anyone have an answer? Jerry

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------C5A2943BD4A122E4E28F168D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jerry, I will take John -> Benjamin's (three of his daughter's) Jane (she is my relative), Salle (Sally) and Atha (both are buried in Crossville AL at the Methodist church there with Jane. Donna Jerry Crumly wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Truett Crumley" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 4:23 AM > Subject: Re: [CRUMLEY] Chairpersons > > >JERRY, I can help with John`s immediate family. > > Truett Sr. > > Good, Truett. I have Levi (Benjamin's son) and his descendants covered. I > don't have Benjamin's siblings covered. I know who they are, but not their > offspring. > > Jean, can you import a GEDCOM into your FTM and merge it with your other > data? If so, I'll help input Truett's data and send you a GEDCOM. > Otherwise, you'll need to input it yourself into your FTM. > Jerry > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 9:28 PM > > Subject: Re: [CRUMLEY] Chairpersons > > > > YES, if I get your guidance > <snip> --------------C5A2943BD4A122E4E28F168D Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=UTF-8; name="Donna.Hamby.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Donna Hamby Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Donna.Hamby.vcf" begin:vcard n:;Donna x-mozilla-html:FALSE adr:;;;;;; version:2.1 email;internet:[email protected] fn:Donna Hamby end:vcard --------------C5A2943BD4A122E4E28F168D--

I meant to say William's children were likely listed in order by age in his will. pln -----Original Message----- From: Paul Nichols [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 6:55 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [CRUMLEY] Chairpersons About James Crumley's children: I do not know of any evidence that there was a James, Jr. He did have a grandson James (William's first son) who stayed in Frederick County, Virginia - some of the information people have put online even has James, Jr. marrying Mary Stonebridge, who was the wife of grandson James. Also, is there any evidence that the 5 children of James Crumley were born in 1733, 1735, 1737, 1739, and 1741 (and, especially, another one in 1743)? And what about the birthdates for William's children? A couple of weeks ago Marti indicated that her ancestor Catharine was born 18 December 1766 (based, I understand, on very old family records). Apparently the next child, Aaron, wasn't born until 1771. Five years is a long time between children. Do we have them in the correct order - there seems to be pretty good evidence that William's 15 children were listed in order by age? Maybe there were more than 15 and one or more died young - if so, I'm sure we'll never know. paul -----Original Message----- From: Truett Crumley [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 5:24 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [CRUMLEY] Chairpersons Jean, you failed to list the children of William and first spouse (Hannah Mercer). They were: James (1765), Ann (1766), Wm Jr. (1767), Catherine (Catron) (1768), Aaron Mercer (1772). The first child by William and 2nd spouse (Sarah Dunn) was Jane, then Thomas. You listed Thomas and Elizabeth Gardner as having 14 children, which is correct, but you have them arranged in somewhat different order than I. I have Thomas and Elizabeth coming to Harrison Co., Ohio about 1811 along with some brothers and sisters. Also the Dickersons came too. Many of Thomas` children married Dickersons. James` children were: John (1733), William Sr. (1735), Mary (1737), Henry (1739), Samuel (1741), and James Jr. (1743). Jr may have died at birth. I have been slow to respond recently as I have rheumatoid arthitis which overwhems me at times. JERRY, I can help with John`s immediate family. Truett Sr. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 9:28 PM Subject: Re: [CRUMLEY] Chairpersons > In a message dated 4/17/2002 5:44:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] > writes: > > > > That's 100 years of James and Catherine descendants, > > about five generations. Want to do that? > > Jerry > > > > YES, if I get your guidance:) BTW, I have slow-mailed my Family Tree Maker > printouts to Truett for his comments and/or corrections. Haven't had any > feedback that I can recall. > > Jean >

Truett, I will get all the info on Chaple Columbus Crumley updated and send it to you. I am missing info on some of his children but will start working on it tonight. Melissa in TX ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Crumly" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 7:42 AM Subject: [CRUMLEY] John's family > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Truett Crumley" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 4:23 AM > Subject: Re: [CRUMLEY] Chairpersons > > > >JERRY, I can help with John`s immediate family. > > Truett Sr. > > Good, Truett. I have Levi (Benjamin's son) and his descendants covered. I > don't have Benjamin's siblings covered. I know who they are, but not their > offspring. > > Jean, can you import a GEDCOM into your FTM and merge it with your other > data? If so, I'll help input Truett's data and send you a GEDCOM. > Otherwise, you'll need to input it yourself into your FTM. > Jerry > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 9:28 PM > > Subject: Re: [CRUMLEY] Chairpersons > > > > YES, if I get your guidance > <snip> > >

About James Crumley's children: I do not know of any evidence that there was a James, Jr. He did have a grandson James (William's first son) who stayed in Frederick County, Virginia - some of the information people have put online even has James, Jr. marrying Mary Stonebridge, who was the wife of grandson James. Also, is there any evidence that the 5 children of James Crumley were born in 1733, 1735, 1737, 1739, and 1741 (and, especially, another one in 1743)? And what about the birthdates for William's children? A couple of weeks ago Marti indicated that her ancestor Catharine was born 18 December 1766 (based, I understand, on very old family records). Apparently the next child, Aaron, wasn't born until 1771. Five years is a long time between children. Do we have them in the correct order - there seems to be pretty good evidence that William's 15 children were listed in order by age? Maybe there were more than 15 and one or more died young - if so, I'm sure we'll never know. paul -----Original Message----- From: Truett Crumley [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 5:24 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [CRUMLEY] Chairpersons Jean, you failed to list the children of William and first spouse (Hannah Mercer). They were: James (1765), Ann (1766), Wm Jr. (1767), Catherine (Catron) (1768), Aaron Mercer (1772). The first child by William and 2nd spouse (Sarah Dunn) was Jane, then Thomas. You listed Thomas and Elizabeth Gardner as having 14 children, which is correct, but you have them arranged in somewhat different order than I. I have Thomas and Elizabeth coming to Harrison Co., Ohio about 1811 along with some brothers and sisters. Also the Dickersons came too. Many of Thomas` children married Dickersons. James` children were: John (1733), William Sr. (1735), Mary (1737), Henry (1739), Samuel (1741), and James Jr. (1743). Jr may have died at birth. I have been slow to respond recently as I have rheumatoid arthitis which overwhems me at times. JERRY, I can help with John`s immediate family. Truett Sr. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 9:28 PM Subject: Re: [CRUMLEY] Chairpersons > In a message dated 4/17/2002 5:44:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] > writes: > > > > That's 100 years of James and Catherine descendants, > > about five generations. Want to do that? > > Jerry > > > > YES, if I get your guidance:) BTW, I have slow-mailed my Family Tree Maker > printouts to Truett for his comments and/or corrections. Haven't had any > feedback that I can recall. > > Jean >

In a message dated 4/18/2002 8:44:29 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > Jean, can you import a GEDCOM into your FTM and merge it with your other > data? If so, I'll help input Truett's data and send you a GEDCOM. > Otherwise, you'll need to input it yourself into your FTM. > Jerry > I don't know the answer to that. Can one of my Crumley cousins show me how??

In a message dated 4/18/2002 5:27:30 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > you failed to list the children of William and first spouse (Hannah > Mercer). They were: James (1765), Ann (1766), Wm Jr. (1767), Catherine > (Catron) (1768), Aaron Mercer (1772). The first child by William and 2nd > spouse (Sarah Dunn) was Jane, then Thomas. You listed Thomas and Elizabeth > Gardner as having 14 children, which is correct, but you have them arranged > in somewhat different order than I. I have Thomas and Elizabeth coming to > Harrison Co., Ohio about 1811 along with some brothers and sisters. Also > the Dickersons came too. Many of Thomas` children married Dickersons. > James` children were: John (1733), William Sr. (1735), Mary (1737), Henry > (1739), Samuel (1741), and James Jr. (1743). Jr may have died at birth. > I have been slow to respond recently as I have rheumatoid arthitis which > overwhems me at times. JERRY, I can help with John`s immediate family. > Truett Sr. > Thanks, Truett. In the years that I did this I was only concerned with more immediate Crumley ancestors. I'll add your information to my Family Tree. Takes a while to get really GOOD at this, as you truly are. Best wishes, Jean

In a message dated 4/17/2002 9:59:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > Jean, you'll need to identify the data available for each of John and > Hannah's children. I have nothing on them on my Family Treemaker file:(

Will someone who is descended from George and/or Valentine Crumley please step up to the plate and agree to coordinate the preparation of those lineages? We don't want any one left out. Jerry

----- Original Message ----- From: "Truett Crumley" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 4:23 AM Subject: Re: [CRUMLEY] Chairpersons >JERRY, I can help with John`s immediate family. > Truett Sr. Good, Truett. I have Levi (Benjamin's son) and his descendants covered. I don't have Benjamin's siblings covered. I know who they are, but not their offspring. Jean, can you import a GEDCOM into your FTM and merge it with your other data? If so, I'll help input Truett's data and send you a GEDCOM. Otherwise, you'll need to input it yourself into your FTM. Jerry > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 9:28 PM > Subject: Re: [CRUMLEY] Chairpersons > > YES, if I get your guidance <snip>

Jean, you failed to list the children of William and first spouse (Hannah Mercer). They were: James (1765), Ann (1766), Wm Jr. (1767), Catherine (Catron) (1768), Aaron Mercer (1772). The first child by William and 2nd spouse (Sarah Dunn) was Jane, then Thomas. You listed Thomas and Elizabeth Gardner as having 14 children, which is correct, but you have them arranged in somewhat different order than I. I have Thomas and Elizabeth coming to Harrison Co., Ohio about 1811 along with some brothers and sisters. Also the Dickersons came too. Many of Thomas` children married Dickersons. James` children were: John (1733), William Sr. (1735), Mary (1737), Henry (1739), Samuel (1741), and James Jr. (1743). Jr may have died at birth. I have been slow to respond recently as I have rheumatoid arthitis which overwhems me at times. JERRY, I can help with John`s immediate family. Truett Sr. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 9:28 PM Subject: Re: [CRUMLEY] Chairpersons > In a message dated 4/17/2002 5:44:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] > writes: > > > > That's 100 years of James and Catherine descendants, > > about five generations. Want to do that? > > Jerry > > > > YES, if I get your guidance:) BTW, I have slow-mailed my Family Tree Maker > printouts to Truett for his comments and/or corrections. Haven't had any > feedback that I can recall. > > Jean >

Ok - list I'll help with Thomas C. Crumley and his son Spencer, but I think Laurie Ann may already have all my information. Shirley is of the same line so we will have this cover. Bill Cox, I'll help you with Thomas C. lines, just tell me where you need help. Tricia

In a message dated 4/17/2002 5:44:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > That's 100 years of James and Catherine descendants, > about five generations. Want to do that? > Jerry > YES, if I get your guidance:) BTW, I have slow-mailed my Family Tree Maker printouts to Truett for his comments and/or corrections. Haven't had any feedback that I can recall. Jean

> YES, if I get your guidance:) BTW, I have slow-mailed my Family Tree Maker > printouts to Truett for his comments and/or corrections. Haven't had any > feedback that I can recall. Jean, you'll need to identify the data available for each of John and Hannah's children. You can ask the list members who has what. Get someone to sub-chair each offspring. I have data on their son, Benjamin, and will help you get info on Benjamin's children. Jerry