In a message dated 4/19/2002 5:32:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > Help, will someone please send me the documentation for this marriage. > Arlettia Crumley Fyfe > All I have on Hanna is that she is mentioned 1760 in her brother John's will, AND will of Elizabeth Morris, whoever she is:) Jean

In a message dated 4/19/2002 5:32:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > Help, will someone please send me the documentation for this marriage ME, TOO! Jean Barbour

----- Original Message ----- From: "Margie Skinner" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 6:14 PM Subject: Re: [CRUMLEY] Old Gregory Road >Robert must have been in very good health to walk from > Birmingham to there.....Highway 11 does go to Collinsville. And he was 70 years old when he wrote the letter to C.W. Crumly. That would be a long trek for anyone, much less a 70 your old person. Personally, I suspect gggranddad Robert had a horse. */;-) Jerry

Ken do you have an e-mail address for JoAnn Crumly Hannah, or snail mail address, and or phone #. Many thank for all of you help. Peace Jerry L in Ok ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kenneth & Clara Crumbly" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 9:34 PM Subject: Re: [CRUMLEY] Fw: relitives > Jerry L. > > In my database is the following family. > > Abraham Crumley b. 3/10/1793 > mJane McNees she d. 8-18-1845 in Green Co., Tenn > Children: > Writty (Rita) Crumleyb. 6-19-1831 > William b. 10-4-1833 > James Jones b. 4-22-1836 m. Esther Ellen Hockett > Elizabeth Chloe b. 11-14-1839 > Rhona b. 12-29-1841 > Aaron H. II b12-23-1844 source is 1860 census indexed by Byron and Barbara > Sistler, 1860 Census TN, Vol. 2, Indexed by Sistler, (1982 Nashville TN), > page 21. > > This information I think was given to me by JoAnn Crumley Hannah in Bradley > Co. Tenn. > Since it was not in my line it is not sourced completely and for this I > deeply apologize to you. shall I try to run it down or is this enough to > get you past the block??? > BTW Abe's father was William b. 1767 Virginia; d. in Greene Co Tn (See Paul > Nichols site) > Williams father was William son of James. > > Ken > > > At 09:53 PM 4/11/02 -0500, you wrote: > >Hi! Crumly Clan. Still at a dead end "HELP" Jerry in Ok > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Jerry L Crumly" <[email protected]> > >To: <[email protected]> > >Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 3:19 PM > >Subject: relitives > > > > > > > Ed! My name is Jerry L Crumly. My Grandfather James Andrew Crumly And his > > > father Thomas Howard are buried in Scots cemetery between Butler and > > > Amsterdam Mo. Thomas had five Brothers and two sisters. Their names were > >Al > > > which was short for Albion, Sam, William, Owen, who I meant once, he live > >in > > > Co the last I heard and Aaron. His sisters names were Alwilda, and Deli. I > > > did meet great aunt Alwilda, her married name was Picket. My Great > > > Grandmother's name was Mary Agness ( Stinnett may not be spelled right) > > > Crumly. My Father Thomas Elmer Crumly told me that My GGreat Grandmother's > > > maiden name was Esther Hockett. I found a Esther Hockett on Ancestery > >.com. > > > She was married to a James Jones Crumley, but it only showed one child, > >her > > > name was Alwilda. Nothing about the six boys and other daughter. You are > >one > > > of the few Crumlys I have see on the web that has mentioned Crumlys in MO > >. > > > If you help me I will be in your dept forever. I have hit a dead end. My > >dad told that Mary agness was Quaker, And had a big dairy farm just outside > >of Butler Mo. > > > Peace > > > Jerry L Crumly > > > 1505 Berry Rd > > > Ft Gibson Ok 74434 > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > >

Jerry, My gggrandfather Copeland drove a stage couch from Collinsville to Rising Fawn GA. This part of the country across from Collinsville to Rising Fawn has some huge mountains. And north GA from there on over to Union Co. GA is even more so. Robert must have been in very good health to walk from Birmingham to there.....Highway 11 does go to Collinsville. There is a road from Collinsville that goes up the mountain that you can still drive up. It is narrow and has many curves. We were on it a year or so ago. This road goes by Copeland Bridge community. Billie Crumly might know the name of it. Margie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Crumly" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 5:05 PM Subject: [CRUMLEY] Old Gregory Road > Has anyone, most likely the Crossville, AL, cousins, ever heard of the Old > Gregory road? It stretched from what is now Birmingham up towards northern > GA. I can't find mention of it on any websites. It was 1870 vintage, > probably a very narrow, wagon road that passed near Collinsville, AL. From a > modern road map it looks like it would have followed I-59 or US-11. > > Jerry > >

I forwarded your letter to Gary so we should hear from him. He is doing genealogy, but don't know if he is on the list or not. Margie > > Gary Crumly's ancestor was Charles Wesley Crumly b.1834. He was Robert > > Crumly's son and married Nancy Bevins. They were in Jefferson Co. AL. Is > > this the C.W. (Wesley) you need? > > I think I have Gary's e-mail address. > > Margie > > That's the one. I'd like to find out if he's ever seen the letter. > Jerry > >

Hello list, In checking my documentation I cannot find anything for the marriage of William ( Son of James and Catherine) to Hannah Mercer. There must be something that I am missing? I have Edward Mercer's will, where he named a daughter, Hannah. But that doesn't make his daughter William's wife, and that is all I have. Help, will someone please send me the documentation for this marriage. Arlettia Crumley Fyfe

Has anyone, most likely the Crossville, AL, cousins, ever heard of the Old Gregory road? It stretched from what is now Birmingham up towards northern GA. I can't find mention of it on any websites. It was 1870 vintage, probably a very narrow, wagon road that passed near Collinsville, AL. From a modern road map it looks like it would have followed I-59 or US-11. Jerry

> Gary Crumly's ancestor was Charles Wesley Crumly b.1834. He was Robert > Crumly's son and married Nancy Bevins. They were in Jefferson Co. AL. Is > this the C.W. (Wesley) you need? > I think I have Gary's e-mail address. > Margie That's the one. I'd like to find out if he's ever seen the letter. Jerry

Jerry, Gary Crumly's ancestor was Charles Wesley Crumly b.1834. He was Robert Crumly's son and married Nancy Bevins. They were in Jefferson Co. AL. Is this the C.W. (Wesley) you need? I think I have Gary's e-mail address. Margie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Crumly" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 2:40 PM Subject: [CRUMLEY] C.W. (Wesley) Crumley > > > Ia there a member of the C.W. (Wesley) Crumly family on the list? > > > Jerry > > Donna I have a xeroxed copy of a book "Memoirs of a Pre-Civil War Community" > by Bennie Catherine Mallown. Here are some excerpts: > "Some of the pioneers walked to and from Georgia to visit relatives after > the War. The old "Gregory" road across Sand Mountain and by the present town > of Collinsville was their route. Robert Crumly, and aged pioneer, made > several trips by foot. He was physically able to make the trip by stopping > in Collinsville with relatives." > > Here is an excerpt from a letter he wrote back to C.W. (Wesley) Crumley and > his family back in Alabama while he (Robert) was in Union County on a visit: > Union County, Georgia > April 28th, 1870 > <snip> > I don't want to stay here another winter. It is too cold for me here but I > suppose I shall have to stay until Fall. The girls want to leave here and > they can't fix to leave till Fall. I don't want to leave them here by > themselves anymore, for they can't do without someone with them. They can't > stay here and make a living and I want them to get out of this before I > leave them. I expect when I come they will come with me, for I don't want to > stay here with them, and it is out of the question for them to do without a > man person. > <snip> > > Ken and I were discussing this off the list, and this is obviously Robert's > sisters, Atha and Sallie, he is referring to. As Ken says, They would have > been on up in age and I am sure they could not put in a garden, and there > were no cash crops unless they had > some cows. In 1870 Sallie would have been about 60 and no telling what kind > of health > problems. > > Bennie Catherine's book was written in 1950. I'm assuming someone has the > original letter Robert wrote, since she put a transcription into her book. I > also assume the letter belongs to someone in C.W. Crumley's family, and I > would like to get a xeroxed copy of it. Have you ever seen this letter, > Donna? > > Jerry > >

----- Original Message ----- From: "Kenneth & Clara Crumbly" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 10:17 AM Subject: Re: [CRUMLEY] missing persons <snip> > Margaret Lawless > 413 Cherokee Dr. > Trussville, AL 35173-1108 > > Phone was 205/655-2215 I called her and got her machine. If I can get her email address I'll post it. She has lots of info on the Crumly descendants who lived in the vicinity of Crumly Chapel. Jerry

----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Hamby" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 10:42 AM Subject: Re: [CRUMLEY] missing persons > My grandfather was Clarence Wesley Crumly but he did not go by Wesley he went > by Clarence. There was an Uncle Wesley who was a blind man in our family. > > Donna > > Ia there a member of the C.W. (Wesley) Crumly family on the list? > > Jerry Donna I have a xeroxed copy of a book "Memoirs of a Pre-Civil War Community" by Bennie Catherine Mallown. Here are some excerpts: "Some of the pioneers walked to and from Georgia to visit relatives after the War. The old "Gregory" road across Sand Mountain and by the present town of Collinsville was their route. Robert Crumly, and aged pioneer, made several trips by foot. He was physically able to make the trip by stopping in Collinsville with relatives." Here is an excerpt from a letter he wrote back to C.W. (Wesley) Crumley and his family back in Alabama while he (Robert) was in Union County on a visit: Union County, Georgia April 28th, 1870 <snip> I don't want to stay here another winter. It is too cold for me here but I suppose I shall have to stay until Fall. The girls want to leave here and they can't fix to leave till Fall. I don't want to leave them here by themselves anymore, for they can't do without someone with them. They can't stay here and make a living and I want them to get out of this before I leave them. I expect when I come they will come with me, for I don't want to stay here with them, and it is out of the question for them to do without a man person. <snip> Ken and I were discussing this off the list, and this is obviously Robert's sisters, Atha and Sallie, he is referring to. As Ken says, They would have been on up in age and I am sure they could not put in a garden, and there were no cash crops unless they had some cows. In 1870 Sallie would have been about 60 and no telling what kind of health problems. Bennie Catherine's book was written in 1950. I'm assuming someone has the original letter Robert wrote, since she put a transcription into her book. I also assume the letter belongs to someone in C.W. Crumley's family, and I would like to get a xeroxed copy of it. Have you ever seen this letter, Donna? Jerry

> I would be glad to help and have information on Sidney > Smith Crumley, son of Charles Crumley. If you would > like me to help, I would help anyway I can. > > Roxanna Bradley Great. I'll put you in my list of contacts. Jerry

> I can't say for sure where the information came from that James was born in 1712 in Yorkshire. "Colonial and Revolutionary Lineages of America" states James was born in Yorkshire, Eng. I never read where it gave his year of birth. "Patillo-Holleyman-Crumley and Allied Families" says he emigrated from County Monaghan, Ireland. Both of these statements may be true. But I would NOT trust anything the LDS library claims unless I had secondary documentation. Jerry

Sorry, folks. I thought I was just emailing Ken. My apologies. Jerry

Hello I can't say for sure where the information came from that James was born in 1712 in Yorkshire. In the same genealogy done for my Grandfather it states that "James came from Yorkshire, England." Just like this same works said he had a son named James Jr. No documentation. The information is not supported. As there are many mistakes in this works, if anyone is using it for their documentation, please email me. I have worked with this history and spent some time proving or disproving what's in it. I believe Truett has found who he believes to be James' parents, and he gave a film number, if I remember correctly. Maybe, Truett, you could elaborate on this as it may be the documentation we need. The company doing this genealogy for my Grandfather were suppose to be professionals and they included this history along with many others in a 16 volume history called " Colonial and Revolutionary Linages of America". Hope this sheds some light on where some information has come from Arlettia Crumley Fyfe

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------6CAB1628B38659A242FB50B9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jerry, My grandfather was Clarence Wesley Crumly but he did not go by Wesley he went by Clarence. There was an Uncle Wesley who was a blind man in our family. Donna Jerry Crumly wrote: > Anyone on the list heard from Margaret Lawless? Anyone have her phone # or > snail address? > > Ia there a member of the C.W. (Wesley) Crumly family on the list? > > Jerry --------------6CAB1628B38659A242FB50B9 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=UTF-8; name="Donna.Hamby.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Donna Hamby Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Donna.Hamby.vcf" begin:vcard n:;Donna x-mozilla-html:FALSE adr:;;;;;; version:2.1 email;internet:[email protected] fn:Donna Hamby end:vcard --------------6CAB1628B38659A242FB50B9--

Geez calm down. some of us are not on cox.net and have a cute ring tone every time they get an e-mail.or do the pipes whine up? Just kidding!!! Margaret Lawless 413 Cherokee Dr. Trussville, AL 35173-1108 Phone was 205/655-2215 If you lose it again her husband's name is Owen. On the other e-mail: I think Robert is referring to Atha and Sallie his sisters when he says the girls can't make it. They would have been on up in age and I am sure they could not put in a garden and there were no cash crops unless they had some cows. In 1870 Sallie would have been about 60 and no telling what kind of health problems. cuz At 09:32 AM 4/19/02 -0500, you wrote: >Anyone on the list heard from Margaret Lawless? Anyone have her phone # or >snail address? > >Ia there a member of the C.W. (Wesley) Crumly family on the list? > >Jerry

> Geez calm down. some of us are not on cox.net Actually, I shut down all my internet software when I'm not actually sitting here. When you're on cable, you're on line all the time, anytime your computer is running. I have a firewall for protection against all the nuts out there, but I secure everything so nothing happens when I'm not sitting here. And the sound my machine makes when it downloads new mail is: "Mail Call, Mail Call" in my own voice. I recorded it to make me feel at home. */;-) > or do the pipes whine up? The word you're searching for is skirl. Would you like a pipe tune to signal your downloads? I can email you one. (It may result in your being a bachelor in the autumn of your life).*/;-) Yeah, I figured Robert was talking about Atha and Sallie. Social security for the old aged began at home back in those days. Jerry

Anyone on the list heard from Margaret Lawless? Anyone have her phone # or snail address? Ia there a member of the C.W. (Wesley) Crumly family on the list? Jerry