Jerry...... I descend from William Smith Crumley and no, I did not do any research on the info re Joan Gregory. She is NOT the wife of William Smith Crumley. His wife was Elizabeth Jones Monroe, b. Nov 15, 1790 in Laurens Co., SC, d. Jan 19, 1836 in Sautee, GA. William Smith Crumley was born April 4, 1794 as third child to Charles and Parthenia Heaton Crumley of Newberry Co., SC. Charles was the second son of John Crumley, who migrated from Frederick Co., VA (now Berkeley Co., WV) to Newberry Co. in the 1770's. William Smith Crumley's father died around 1800 and his widow later married John Dalton of Newberry Co. It has been determined that William had an older sister, named Joan. After the death of his father, William went to live with his uncle, Thomas Crumley, in Spartenburg Co., SC until his marriage to Elizabeth Jones Monroe around 1813/14. Thomas carried William Smith as his son on the 1800 and 1810 Censuses of Spartenburg Co., SC. Faustene Crumley Heilman My info comes from a typewritten xerox of a page sent me by Faustene Heilman, who got it from Billy Cox. I don't believe either one of them did the original research, so I'm just covering everybody's six. BTW, anyone on this list descended from this William Smith Crumley? Jerry

Jerry, Can you check this reference if not I will try to find it and scan it for you: Newberry County S.C. Historical and Genealogical Annals by Geo. L. Summer, Sr. Page 329 It may have what you are looking for. Ken At 11:25 AM 4/26/02 -0500, you wrote: >Can anyone offer documentation that Joan Gregory was the first wife of >Benjamin Crumley of Newberry SC, later Habersham, GA, and that Joan and >Benjamin were the parents of William Smith Crumley? > >I was going back through some old files looking for something and came >across this. >Jerry

My family always used the E and I think that they would be insulted if I told them to take it out.....It is whatever you grew up with and it doesn't bother me at all. My grandmother, Josephine Crumley, daughter of Henry Morgan Jr. had the E on her marriage license . In 1838 ,Thomas Crumley, was the way the deed was made out. That was in Habersham County and also on his service record.. If it was not an E, then it was a B but it sure looks like an E to me. Now on Henry Morgan Jr's tombstone, the E was left out.....Mildred Madison

> Jerry, > Can you check this reference if not I will try to find it and scan it for you: > > Newberry County S.C. Historical and Genealogical Annals by Geo. L. Summer, Sr. > Page 329 That's the reference I saw, Ken. Our library here has NOTHING on Newberry Co., SC. I don't need a copy, I'd just like for someone to read that page and see if it really says that. My info comes from a typewritten xerox of a page sent me by Faustene Heilman, who got it from Billy Cox. I don't believe either one of them did the original research, so I'm just covering everybody's six. BTW, anyone on this list descended from this William Smith Crumley? Jerry

Can anyone offer documentation that Joan Gregory was the first wife of Benjamin Crumley of Newberry SC, later Habersham, GA, and that Joan and Benjamin were the parents of William Smith Crumley? I was going back through some old files looking for something and came across this. Jerry

When they try to insert a "b" in my name, I tell them I try not to "sting" anybody. :) Rich Crumley Jerry Crumly wrote: > > to this day if my > > father gets a bill that had that 'e' in his name he will march right up > > to whoever and tell then that is NOT his bill. > > I came to grips with that long ago. I just think of it as the Colonial > spelling. */;-) > Jerry Crumly

> to this day if my > father gets a bill that had that 'e' in his name he will march right up > to whoever and tell then that is NOT his bill. I came to grips with that long ago. I just think of it as the Colonial spelling. */;-) Jerry Crumly

Alan Leach, would you again list the 14 children of this ISAAC Crumley who died in Greene Co., Iowa? I can only list 9 which are: 1 - Wm P (1824); 2 - Silvanus (1826); 3 - Hannah H. (1828); 4 - Isaac Jr. (1830); 5 - Asenath (1832); 6 - Mary A. (1834); 7 - Jacob Hicks (1836); 8 - Jotham (1838); and Alfred (1840). Alan, let me hear from you. Truett Sr. --- Original Message ----- From: "Alan T. Leach" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 8:47 PM Subject: Re: [CRUMLEY] 1850 census > #46 Isaac Crumley: James, William, William > > Note, many sources on the Internet have Isaac born in 1787 and marrying Rachel > Brown 1805. One source has him born in 1797 and marrying in 1815, and I believe > this latter source is correct, because Isaac was listed in the 1850 census as > being 52/53 years old, and his death was recorded in Greene County, Iowa on 10 > Feb 1887 at the age of 90. Three of his older children (William P. Crumley, > Sylvanus Goodson Crumley and Lydia (Crumley) Babb) west west in a covered wagon > in 1850. Isaac, with his second wife, followed in 1852 with the rest of his 11 > children. I have information on most of his children, but lack information on > one of the younger children, T. P. Crumley, who was still alive and living in > Twin Falls, Idaho at the time of the death of his brother Sylvanus Goodson in > 1918 at the age of 92. Does anyone have information on T. P. Crumley? > > Alan Leach >

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------0DF768B2CA2544FFE854E51E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ok clan, I have been spending some time reading Bible pages tonight for Leander F. Crumly also know as Doc or Dock and he does not have the dreaded 'e' in his name. I have to laugh about this because to this day if my father gets a bill that had that 'e' in his name he will march right up to whoever and tell then that is NOT his bill. They usually say of course, it is and proceed to argue. Have you ever tried to argue with a Crumly? Oh that is right, you are one of those as I am. Well, it normally works out that he says when you send the bill to me with the right name on it I will pay the bill and the company is forced to change the spelling of the name to Crumly from Crumley. This brings up thoughts as to just when the spelling of the name changed. I have found on Death Certificate (and who know who wrote them) that some are misspelled (I can't let that happen to my Daddy). Also on many of the Census records the takers just wrote what they thought would be the correct spelling and I don't believe they asked how to spell things or today we can't read the spellings as we saw with the various spellings of that 1850 list that went around. Do you have proof/proofs of spelling on the names and when they were one way or another? Thanks, Donna --------------0DF768B2CA2544FFE854E51E Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=UTF-8; name="Donna.Hamby.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Donna Hamby Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Donna.Hamby.vcf" begin:vcard n:;Donna x-mozilla-html:FALSE adr:;;;;;; version:2.1 email;internet:[email protected] fn:Donna Hamby end:vcard --------------0DF768B2CA2544FFE854E51E--

Judy, >From family notes in my parents posession, JAMES ALEXANDER CRUMLEY (my ggrandfather) and SALLIE LOUIZZA ROBINSON had 14 children. - INFANT CRUMLEY, b. November 06, 1885; d. November 06, 1885. - WILLIAM HANCEL CRUMLEY, b. September 07, 1886; d. September 07, 1886. - NANCY ELIZABETH CRUMLEY, b. November 26, 1887, White Co., GA; d. April 24, 1971 - JOHN HENRY CRUMLEY, b. December 20, 1890 - OSKER ALVIN CRUMLEY, b. March 07, 1892; d. July 06, 1892. - GENERAL MARDY CRUMLEY, b. July 29, 1893, White Co., GA; d. September 30, 1918, On a US Ship going to Europe for WWI - IDA BELL CRUMLEY, b. August 05, 1896, Banks Co., GA - DORA JANE CRUMLEY, b. December 09, 1899, White Co., GA; d. April 26, 1900. - LUTHER ALVIN CRUMLEY, b. February 22, 1901; d. August 28, 1902. - LELA MAE CRUMLEY, b. August 09, 1903, Hall Co., GA - ROY SWIFTON CRUMLEY, b. March 20, 1906, Hall Co., GA; d. February 04, 2001, Cleveland, GA - LOLA FANNIE CRUMLEY, b. September 08, 1908, Habersham Co., GA - OLA ANNA CRUMLEY, b. September 08, 1908, Habersham Co., GA - OTIS JACOB CRUMLEY, b. March 20, 1911, Habersham Co, GA; d. February 19, 1974, Tuscaloosa, AL Rich Jerry Crumly wrote: > Relayed: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 7:00 AM > Subject: {not a subscriber} Children of James Alexander Crumley > > > I would like to futher my info on James Alexander Crumley and his wife > > Sallie. I have only for children listed, whereas one researcher reports a > > child Roy S. who was father of a General M. Crumley. Can anyone fill me > in > > on this one? > > Judy Rountree Mason > > > >

Relayed: ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 7:00 AM Subject: {not a subscriber} Children of James Alexander Crumley > I would like to futher my info on James Alexander Crumley and his wife > Sallie. I have only for children listed, whereas one researcher reports a > child Roy S. who was father of a General M. Crumley. Can anyone fill me in > on this one? > Judy Rountree Mason > >

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------DD0ABAF9C5FC5B71B48AEAC7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Please change to [email protected] They were getting spammed too much and changed all userid's. Thanks, Donna Kenneth & Clara Crumbly wrote: > Donna Hamby, > > Donna, my ISP keeps kicking my messages to you back. Has your e-mail > address changed? > > I am using <[email protected]> > > Ken --------------DD0ABAF9C5FC5B71B48AEAC7 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=UTF-8; name="Donna.Hamby.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Donna Hamby Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Donna.Hamby.vcf" begin:vcard n:;Donna x-mozilla-html:FALSE adr:;;;;;; version:2.1 email;internet:[email protected] fn:Donna Hamby end:vcard --------------DD0ABAF9C5FC5B71B48AEAC7--

Donna Hamby, Donna, my ISP keeps kicking my messages to you back. Has your e-mail address changed? I am using <[email protected]> Ken

Linda, could you relate to me about which Greene County are you referring to - Tn., Ohio, Iowa, or Mo.? I might be able to help you. Truett Sr. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 10:34 PM Subject: Re: [CRUMLEY] Crumley > Jerry, > There have been several things going on here and you can imagine what a > time I have had trying to read all this Crumley mail! This quiet little list > has just come alive! > Do you think at some point you can tell me who the person is that is in > charge of my line-Samuel, in Greene County? I would sure like to find > someone who is alive and breathing that knows him too! I have been lonely > too long! > Linda Hays Ker > Texas > Crumley, Inks, Hays, Henderson, etc. Greene Co. Tenn. to TX and AK >

Jerry, There have been several things going on here and you can imagine what a time I have had trying to read all this Crumley mail! This quiet little list has just come alive! Do you think at some point you can tell me who the person is that is in charge of my line-Samuel, in Greene County? I would sure like to find someone who is alive and breathing that knows him too! I have been lonely too long! Linda Hays Ker Texas Crumley, Inks, Hays, Henderson, etc. Greene Co. Tenn. to TX and AK

#46 Isaac Crumley: James, William, William Note, many sources on the Internet have Isaac born in 1787 and marrying Rachel Brown 1805. One source has him born in 1797 and marrying in 1815, and I believe this latter source is correct, because Isaac was listed in the 1850 census as being 52/53 years old, and his death was recorded in Greene County, Iowa on 10 Feb 1887 at the age of 90. Three of his older children (William P. Crumley, Sylvanus Goodson Crumley and Lydia (Crumley) Babb) west west in a covered wagon in 1850. Isaac, with his second wife, followed in 1852 with the rest of his 11 children. I have information on most of his children, but lack information on one of the younger children, T. P. Crumley, who was still alive and living in Twin Falls, Idaho at the time of the death of his brother Sylvanus Goodson in 1918 at the age of 92. Does anyone have information on T. P. Crumley? Alan Leach

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------99C3D25FE8A19C9FF00CE454 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit First let me express my thanks to everyone for all this information. But there really is a flood of stuff so would it be possible to do a few things to allow us to sort through the emails. I seem to have an overwhelming number of them in my inbox. 1. Can we please put the correct subject matter in the subject line. I have read a number of them which simply state James Children as reference but really apply to either William and Hannan Mercer or the tracing of the Mercer line back. This would be a great help when trying to sort them out. 2. The second request which I pray you will not consider Whining is that if you feel the same way as someone - Please Please do not just press the reply button to send this to the entire mailing list. This would be a great candidate for modifying the address line and just sending this response back to the originator. Thanks so much and I wouldn't take anything for this great list and look forward to the website coming soon. (We hope). Also thanks to all the wonderful researchers who are giving their research efforts to us all across the country. I hope there will be a way to get the images of many of these original documents for our files. Thank you for your thoughtfulness and you do not have to reply to this email. Perhaps Jerry will be the one to tell us the rules of conduct here so we can keep the email to a minimum. Now I suspect I have been in error on some of these too, so I will take this to mean me too. Kind regards, Donna [email protected] wrote: > In a message dated 4/19/2002 5:32:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > > Help, will someone please send me the documentation for this marriage > > ME, TOO! Jean Barbour --------------99C3D25FE8A19C9FF00CE454 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=UTF-8; name="Donna.Hamby.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Donna Hamby Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Donna.Hamby.vcf" begin:vcard n:;Donna x-mozilla-html:FALSE adr:;;;;;; version:2.1 email;internet:[email protected] fn:Donna Hamby end:vcard --------------99C3D25FE8A19C9FF00CE454--

Well stated, Donna. Here is an excerpt from the rules I posted several times: "Always change your subject line and do not hit the reply button--- please begin a new email and do not quote entire message that you are replying to. This is rude and many people will not read your reply if they see a repeat. If you are subscribed in "digest" form, it is VERY IMPORTANT that you DO NOT just hit the reply button when replying to a message in the digest. This will result in sending the entire digest back to the list. Instead, you will have to "cut and paste" your reply into a new message window and then send it to the list." I seem to have gotten a little lax in controlling this; sorry. Jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Hamby" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 5:49 PM Subject: [CRUMLEY] Some REQUESTs please read! >Please Please do not just press the > reply button to send this to the entire mailing list. This would be a > great candidate for modifying the address line and just sending this > response back to the originator.

Say, I have your new address as [email protected], but everything comes back. We are hale and hearty -- going to pick strawberries this morning. Hope to see y ou soon Regards to First Friday Night Crowd. Mother ----- Original Message ----- From: Donna Hamby <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 5:58 PM Subject: [CRUMLEY] RE: Charles Plunkett gg Hannah Crumley - DAR > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > --------------E40636A7A6CFD9D646E18A32 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Jerry, > > > Just talked with a member of the DAR here who looked up in their > index > > and found the following: > > > Charles Plunkett - Patriot Index. (Found) > > > Born Circa 1730-35 in Ireland. Died July 2 1803 SC. Married Hannah > > > last name unknown. Public service in SC. > > > She suggested that we ask for > > "Most recent long form. Ask through which child." (i.e. Robert) > > > She also suggested that there are some > > "Books published with the DAR lineage books." and these are found > in > > many libraries. > > > I know you can request a copy by getting the form from the DAR > website. > > > Best of luck, > > Donna > > --------------E40636A7A6CFD9D646E18A32 > Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=UTF-8; > name="Donna.Hamby.vcf" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Content-Description: Card for Donna Hamby > Content-Disposition: attachment; > filename="Donna.Hamby.vcf" > > begin:vcard > n:;Donna > x-mozilla-html:FALSE > adr:;;;;;; > version:2.1 > email;internet:[email protected] > fn:Donna Hamby > end:vcard > > --------------E40636A7A6CFD9D646E18A32-- > > >

> When I saw Edward Mercer in my file given to me by my mother I > started to laugh. Just something to think about. > Jen Cook White Strange how the tapestry is woven, isn't it?