I too, looked at the actual microfilm census and the age for Eliza is 22 born VA It would seem that the two Stoops boys would be Eliza's but she would only have been 13 when the oldest was born. I will look and see if I can find them on the 1900 and see what I can find. Will let all know if Eliza's age stays consistant. Melissa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nancy Lambert" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2002 6:23 PM Subject: Re: [CRUMLEY] Chappel & Eliza Crumley 1880 census > The LDS 1880 census is a transcribed version. > I looked at the actual microfilm census and the age for Eliza as wife of > "Chappell" Crumley is listed as age 22. > They were living in E.D.#6, Cleveland, Bradley Co., Tenn.page 286-A > In addition to Chappel, Eliza, John, Mary and Emma Crumley at 323-356 > directly below is: > 323-357, Haywood Stoops son 9 farm hand and William H. Stoops son 7 farm > hand. > It appears the Stoops boys are part of Chappel's family. > > . > . > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Nancy Lambert" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2002 6:39 PM > Subject: [CRUMLEY] Jesse & Eliza Crumley > > > > >From the 1880 census posted on Chapel & Eliza Crumley, it appears that > John > > Crumley may be a son from a first marriage. > > John is listed as 14 yrs old and the wife of Chapel is Eliza age 22. > > Eliza couldn't be the mother of John, as Eliza was only 8 when John was > > born. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Truett Crumley" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2002 4:32 PM > > Subject: Re: [CRUMLEY] More 1880 US census look ups? Read Carefully!! > > > > > > > Ella, I think the census info you related to Melissa (Missy) is the > family > > > of Jesse Chapel Crumley who was the uncle of Chapel Columbus. Chapel > was > > a > > > younger brother of my g grandfather Sidney Smith Crumley. Jesse Chapel > > was > > > born in Habersham Co., Ga. in 1828. Jesse Chapel was the youngest > brother > > > of Charles Heaton Crumley (my gg grandfather). Jesse Chapel served in > > the > > > Civil War CSA and afterwards he and his family moved westard from Ga.. > I > > > find that Jesse Chapel worked for L & N Railroad out of Nashville, Tn in > > > Birmingham, Al. as a boilmaker from 1888 thru 1890. Jesse died > > 1-28-1914. > > > I have been unable to determine where and where he is buried. This info > > > given by Ella must be of his possible second marriage as Lucianda could > > have > > > died. His first marriage was to Lucianda Stower of Habersham Co., Ga. > > > having four children: William (b 1848); Charles D. (b 1850); Martha (b > > > 1852); and Tennesse (1854). All born in Ga. According to Ella`s info, > a > > > 50 year old Jesse married to a 22 old woman Elizabeth. Could Elizabeth > > > have been older than 22? The children of his first marriage could have > > > already been married. Regards, Truett W. Crumley, [email protected] > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2002 1:18 AM > > > Subject: Re: [CRUMLEY] More 1880 US census look ups? Read Carefully!! > > > > > > > > > > The only Chappel Crumley in the whole US in 180... > > > > > > > > Census Place: Cleveland, Bradley, Tennessee > > > > Source: FHL Film 1255245 National Archives Film T9-1245 Page > > 286A > > > > > > > > Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace > > > > Chappel CRUMLEY Self M M W 50 GA > > > > Occ: Laborer Fa: --- Mo: --- > > > > Eliza CRUMLEY Wife F M W 22 VA > > > > Occ: Keeping House Fa: VA Mo: VA > > > > John CRUMLEY Son M S W 14 GA > > > > Occ: Farm Hand Fa: GA Mo: --- > > > > Mary CRUMLEY Dau F S W 3 TN > > > > Fa: GA Mo: VA > > > > Emma CRUMLEY Dau F S W 1 TN > > > > Fa: GA Mo: VA > > > > --------------------------------------------------------- > > > > if that's not him, send me wife and children's names and I'll see what > I > > > can > > > > find. > > > > > > > > Good luck, > > > > Ella > > > > > > > > > > >

In reference to the census subject family. The LDS 1880 census has the Stoops boys listed as Haywood "self" 9 and William H. Stoops brother 7 but the original microfilm has them both listed as "son" directly below Chappel and Eliza's family. They may have been living separately from Chappel Crumley on the property as they are numerated separately. Chappel being at 323-356 and the Stoops boys as 323-357. I have a family in Mo. and the property is listed in my gg grfather's uncle in 1880 but my gg grfather and his uncle are listed separately next door to each other. I can only figure that my gg grfather was living in a house on the property of his uncle. God bless, Nancy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nancy Lambert" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2002 7:23 PM Subject: Re: [CRUMLEY] Chappel & Eliza Crumley 1880 census > The LDS 1880 census is a transcribed version. > I looked at the actual microfilm census and the age for Eliza as wife of > "Chappell" Crumley is listed as age 22. > They were living in E.D.#6, Cleveland, Bradley Co., Tenn.page 286-A > In addition to Chappel, Eliza, John, Mary and Emma Crumley at 323-356 > directly below is: > 323-357, Haywood Stoops son 9 farm hand and William H. Stoops son 7 farm > hand. > It appears the Stoops boys are part of Chappel's family. > > . > . > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Nancy Lambert" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2002 6:39 PM > Subject: [CRUMLEY] Jesse & Eliza Crumley > > > > >From the 1880 census posted on Chapel & Eliza Crumley, it appears that > John > > Crumley may be a son from a first marriage. > > John is listed as 14 yrs old and the wife of Chapel is Eliza age 22. > > Eliza couldn't be the mother of John, as Eliza was only 8 when John was > > born. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Truett Crumley" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2002 4:32 PM > > Subject: Re: [CRUMLEY] More 1880 US census look ups? Read Carefully!! > > > > > > > Ella, I think the census info you related to Melissa (Missy) is the > family > > > of Jesse Chapel Crumley who was the uncle of Chapel Columbus. Chapel > was > > a > > > younger brother of my g grandfather Sidney Smith Crumley. Jesse Chapel > > was > > > born in Habersham Co., Ga. in 1828. Jesse Chapel was the youngest > brother > > > of Charles Heaton Crumley (my gg grandfather). Jesse Chapel served in > > the > > > Civil War CSA and afterwards he and his family moved westard from Ga.. > I > > > find that Jesse Chapel worked for L & N Railroad out of Nashville, Tn in > > > Birmingham, Al. as a boilmaker from 1888 thru 1890. Jesse died > > 1-28-1914. > > > I have been unable to determine where and where he is buried. This info > > > given by Ella must be of his possible second marriage as Lucianda could > > have > > > died. His first marriage was to Lucianda Stower of Habersham Co., Ga. > > > having four children: William (b 1848); Charles D. (b 1850); Martha (b > > > 1852); and Tennesse (1854). All born in Ga. According to Ella`s info, > a > > > 50 year old Jesse married to a 22 old woman Elizabeth. Could Elizabeth > > > have been older than 22? The children of his first marriage could have > > > already been married. Regards, Truett W. Crumley, [email protected] > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2002 1:18 AM > > > Subject: Re: [CRUMLEY] More 1880 US census look ups? Read Carefully!! > > > > > > > > > > The only Chappel Crumley in the whole US in 180... > > > > > > > > Census Place: Cleveland, Bradley, Tennessee > > > > Source: FHL Film 1255245 National Archives Film T9-1245 Page > > 286A > > > > > > > > Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace > > > > Chappel CRUMLEY Self M M W 50 GA > > > > Occ: Laborer Fa: --- Mo: --- > > > > Eliza CRUMLEY Wife F M W 22 VA > > > > Occ: Keeping House Fa: VA Mo: VA > > > > John CRUMLEY Son M S W 14 GA > > > > Occ: Farm Hand Fa: GA Mo: --- > > > > Mary CRUMLEY Dau F S W 3 TN > > > > Fa: GA Mo: VA > > > > Emma CRUMLEY Dau F S W 1 TN > > > > Fa: GA Mo: VA > > > > --------------------------------------------------------- > > > > if that's not him, send me wife and children's names and I'll see what > I > > > can > > > > find. > > > > > > > > Good luck, > > > > Ella > > > > > > > > > > >

The LDS 1880 census is a transcribed version. I looked at the actual microfilm census and the age for Eliza as wife of "Chappell" Crumley is listed as age 22. They were living in E.D.#6, Cleveland, Bradley Co., Tenn.page 286-A In addition to Chappel, Eliza, John, Mary and Emma Crumley at 323-356 directly below is: 323-357, Haywood Stoops son 9 farm hand and William H. Stoops son 7 farm hand. It appears the Stoops boys are part of Chappel's family. . . ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nancy Lambert" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2002 6:39 PM Subject: [CRUMLEY] Jesse & Eliza Crumley > >From the 1880 census posted on Chapel & Eliza Crumley, it appears that John > Crumley may be a son from a first marriage. > John is listed as 14 yrs old and the wife of Chapel is Eliza age 22. > Eliza couldn't be the mother of John, as Eliza was only 8 when John was > born. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Truett Crumley" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2002 4:32 PM > Subject: Re: [CRUMLEY] More 1880 US census look ups? Read Carefully!! > > > > Ella, I think the census info you related to Melissa (Missy) is the family > > of Jesse Chapel Crumley who was the uncle of Chapel Columbus. Chapel was > a > > younger brother of my g grandfather Sidney Smith Crumley. Jesse Chapel > was > > born in Habersham Co., Ga. in 1828. Jesse Chapel was the youngest brother > > of Charles Heaton Crumley (my gg grandfather). Jesse Chapel served in > the > > Civil War CSA and afterwards he and his family moved westard from Ga.. I > > find that Jesse Chapel worked for L & N Railroad out of Nashville, Tn in > > Birmingham, Al. as a boilmaker from 1888 thru 1890. Jesse died > 1-28-1914. > > I have been unable to determine where and where he is buried. This info > > given by Ella must be of his possible second marriage as Lucianda could > have > > died. His first marriage was to Lucianda Stower of Habersham Co., Ga. > > having four children: William (b 1848); Charles D. (b 1850); Martha (b > > 1852); and Tennesse (1854). All born in Ga. According to Ella`s info, a > > 50 year old Jesse married to a 22 old woman Elizabeth. Could Elizabeth > > have been older than 22? The children of his first marriage could have > > already been married. Regards, Truett W. Crumley, [email protected] > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2002 1:18 AM > > Subject: Re: [CRUMLEY] More 1880 US census look ups? Read Carefully!! > > > > > > > The only Chappel Crumley in the whole US in 180... > > > > > > Census Place: Cleveland, Bradley, Tennessee > > > Source: FHL Film 1255245 National Archives Film T9-1245 Page > 286A > > > > > > Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace > > > Chappel CRUMLEY Self M M W 50 GA > > > Occ: Laborer Fa: --- Mo: --- > > > Eliza CRUMLEY Wife F M W 22 VA > > > Occ: Keeping House Fa: VA Mo: VA > > > John CRUMLEY Son M S W 14 GA > > > Occ: Farm Hand Fa: GA Mo: --- > > > Mary CRUMLEY Dau F S W 3 TN > > > Fa: GA Mo: VA > > > Emma CRUMLEY Dau F S W 1 TN > > > Fa: GA Mo: VA > > > --------------------------------------------------------- > > > if that's not him, send me wife and children's names and I'll see what I > > can > > > find. > > > > > > Good luck, > > > Ella > > > > > >

It would be a good idea to check the original microfilm census to see the age for Eliza. It could be a transcription error on the part of the publisher.. The LDS 1880 census is a transcribed version. I tried to find Chappel and Eliza Crumley in Bradley Co., Tenn in 1880 on the actual microfilm but don't know the District. # for Cleveland. I'll keep looking for page 286A. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nancy Lambert" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2002 6:39 PM Subject: [CRUMLEY] Jesse & Eliza Crumley > >From the 1880 census posted on Chapel & Eliza Crumley, it appears that John > Crumley may be a son from a first marriage. > John is listed as 14 yrs old and the wife of Chapel is Eliza age 22. > Eliza couldn't be the mother of John, as Eliza was only 8 when John was > born. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Truett Crumley" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2002 4:32 PM > Subject: Re: [CRUMLEY] More 1880 US census look ups? Read Carefully!! > > > > Ella, I think the census info you related to Melissa (Missy) is the family > > of Jesse Chapel Crumley who was the uncle of Chapel Columbus. Chapel was > a > > younger brother of my g grandfather Sidney Smith Crumley. Jesse Chapel > was > > born in Habersham Co., Ga. in 1828. Jesse Chapel was the youngest brother > > of Charles Heaton Crumley (my gg grandfather). Jesse Chapel served in > the > > Civil War CSA and afterwards he and his family moved westard from Ga.. I > > find that Jesse Chapel worked for L & N Railroad out of Nashville, Tn in > > Birmingham, Al. as a boilmaker from 1888 thru 1890. Jesse died > 1-28-1914. > > I have been unable to determine where and where he is buried. This info > > given by Ella must be of his possible second marriage as Lucianda could > have > > died. His first marriage was to Lucianda Stower of Habersham Co., Ga. > > having four children: William (b 1848); Charles D. (b 1850); Martha (b > > 1852); and Tennesse (1854). All born in Ga. According to Ella`s info, a > > 50 year old Jesse married to a 22 old woman Elizabeth. Could Elizabeth > > have been older than 22? The children of his first marriage could have > > already been married. Regards, Truett W. Crumley, [email protected] > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2002 1:18 AM > > Subject: Re: [CRUMLEY] More 1880 US census look ups? Read Carefully!! > > > > > > > The only Chappel Crumley in the whole US in 180... > > > > > > Census Place: Cleveland, Bradley, Tennessee > > > Source: FHL Film 1255245 National Archives Film T9-1245 Page > 286A > > > > > > Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace > > > Chappel CRUMLEY Self M M W 50 GA > > > Occ: Laborer Fa: --- Mo: --- > > > Eliza CRUMLEY Wife F M W 22 VA > > > Occ: Keeping House Fa: VA Mo: VA > > > John CRUMLEY Son M S W 14 GA > > > Occ: Farm Hand Fa: GA Mo: --- > > > Mary CRUMLEY Dau F S W 3 TN > > > Fa: GA Mo: VA > > > Emma CRUMLEY Dau F S W 1 TN > > > Fa: GA Mo: VA > > > --------------------------------------------------------- > > > if that's not him, send me wife and children's names and I'll see what I > > can > > > find. > > > > > > Good luck, > > > Ella > > > > > >

It would be a good idea to check the original microfilm census to see the age for Eliza. It could be a transcription error on the part of the publisher.. The LDS 1880 census is a transcribed version. I tried to find Chappel and Eliza Crumley in Bradley Co., Tenn in 1880 on the actual microfilm but don't know the District. # for Cleveland. I'll keep looking for page 286A. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nancy Lambert" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2002 6:39 PM Subject: [CRUMLEY] Jesse & Eliza Crumley > >From the 1880 census posted on Chapel & Eliza Crumley, it appears that John > Crumley may be a son from a first marriage. > John is listed as 14 yrs old and the wife of Chapel is Eliza age 22. > Eliza couldn't be the mother of John, as Eliza was only 8 when John was > born. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Truett Crumley" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2002 4:32 PM > Subject: Re: [CRUMLEY] More 1880 US census look ups? Read Carefully!! > > > > Ella, I think the census info you related to Melissa (Missy) is the family > > of Jesse Chapel Crumley who was the uncle of Chapel Columbus. Chapel was > a > > younger brother of my g grandfather Sidney Smith Crumley. Jesse Chapel > was > > born in Habersham Co., Ga. in 1828. Jesse Chapel was the youngest brother > > of Charles Heaton Crumley (my gg grandfather). Jesse Chapel served in > the > > Civil War CSA and afterwards he and his family moved westard from Ga.. I > > find that Jesse Chapel worked for L & N Railroad out of Nashville, Tn in > > Birmingham, Al. as a boilmaker from 1888 thru 1890. Jesse died > 1-28-1914. > > I have been unable to determine where and where he is buried. This info > > given by Ella must be of his possible second marriage as Lucianda could > have > > died. His first marriage was to Lucianda Stower of Habersham Co., Ga. > > having four children: William (b 1848); Charles D. (b 1850); Martha (b > > 1852); and Tennesse (1854). All born in Ga. According to Ella`s info, a > > 50 year old Jesse married to a 22 old woman Elizabeth. Could Elizabeth > > have been older than 22? The children of his first marriage could have > > already been married. Regards, Truett W. Crumley, [email protected] > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2002 1:18 AM > > Subject: Re: [CRUMLEY] More 1880 US census look ups? Read Carefully!! > > > > > > > The only Chappel Crumley in the whole US in 180... > > > > > > Census Place: Cleveland, Bradley, Tennessee > > > Source: FHL Film 1255245 National Archives Film T9-1245 Page > 286A > > > > > > Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace > > > Chappel CRUMLEY Self M M W 50 GA > > > Occ: Laborer Fa: --- Mo: --- > > > Eliza CRUMLEY Wife F M W 22 VA > > > Occ: Keeping House Fa: VA Mo: VA > > > John CRUMLEY Son M S W 14 GA > > > Occ: Farm Hand Fa: GA Mo: --- > > > Mary CRUMLEY Dau F S W 3 TN > > > Fa: GA Mo: VA > > > Emma CRUMLEY Dau F S W 1 TN > > > Fa: GA Mo: VA > > > --------------------------------------------------------- > > > if that's not him, send me wife and children's names and I'll see what I > > can > > > find. > > > > > > Good luck, > > > Ella > > > > > >

>From the 1880 census posted on Chapel & Eliza Crumley, it appears that John Crumley may be a son from a first marriage. John is listed as 14 yrs old and the wife of Chapel is Eliza age 22. Eliza couldn't be the mother of John, as Eliza was only 8 when John was born. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Truett Crumley" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2002 4:32 PM Subject: Re: [CRUMLEY] More 1880 US census look ups? Read Carefully!! > Ella, I think the census info you related to Melissa (Missy) is the family > of Jesse Chapel Crumley who was the uncle of Chapel Columbus. Chapel was a > younger brother of my g grandfather Sidney Smith Crumley. Jesse Chapel was > born in Habersham Co., Ga. in 1828. Jesse Chapel was the youngest brother > of Charles Heaton Crumley (my gg grandfather). Jesse Chapel served in the > Civil War CSA and afterwards he and his family moved westard from Ga.. I > find that Jesse Chapel worked for L & N Railroad out of Nashville, Tn in > Birmingham, Al. as a boilmaker from 1888 thru 1890. Jesse died 1-28-1914. > I have been unable to determine where and where he is buried. This info > given by Ella must be of his possible second marriage as Lucianda could have > died. His first marriage was to Lucianda Stower of Habersham Co., Ga. > having four children: William (b 1848); Charles D. (b 1850); Martha (b > 1852); and Tennesse (1854). All born in Ga. According to Ella`s info, a > 50 year old Jesse married to a 22 old woman Elizabeth. Could Elizabeth > have been older than 22? The children of his first marriage could have > already been married. Regards, Truett W. Crumley, [email protected] > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2002 1:18 AM > Subject: Re: [CRUMLEY] More 1880 US census look ups? Read Carefully!! > > > > The only Chappel Crumley in the whole US in 180... > > > > Census Place: Cleveland, Bradley, Tennessee > > Source: FHL Film 1255245 National Archives Film T9-1245 Page 286A > > > > Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace > > Chappel CRUMLEY Self M M W 50 GA > > Occ: Laborer Fa: --- Mo: --- > > Eliza CRUMLEY Wife F M W 22 VA > > Occ: Keeping House Fa: VA Mo: VA > > John CRUMLEY Son M S W 14 GA > > Occ: Farm Hand Fa: GA Mo: --- > > Mary CRUMLEY Dau F S W 3 TN > > Fa: GA Mo: VA > > Emma CRUMLEY Dau F S W 1 TN > > Fa: GA Mo: VA > > --------------------------------------------------------- > > if that's not him, send me wife and children's names and I'll see what I > can > > find. > > > > Good luck, > > Ella > > >

Ella, I think the census info you related to Melissa (Missy) is the family of Jesse Chapel Crumley who was the uncle of Chapel Columbus. Chapel was a younger brother of my g grandfather Sidney Smith Crumley. Jesse Chapel was born in Habersham Co., Ga. in 1828. Jesse Chapel was the youngest brother of Charles Heaton Crumley (my gg grandfather). Jesse Chapel served in the Civil War CSA and afterwards he and his family moved westard from Ga.. I find that Jesse Chapel worked for L & N Railroad out of Nashville, Tn in Birmingham, Al. as a boilmaker from 1888 thru 1890. Jesse died 1-28-1914. I have been unable to determine where and where he is buried. This info given by Ella must be of his possible second marriage as Lucianda could have died. His first marriage was to Lucianda Stower of Habersham Co., Ga. having four children: William (b 1848); Charles D. (b 1850); Martha (b 1852); and Tennesse (1854). All born in Ga. According to Ella`s info, a 50 year old Jesse married to a 22 old woman Elizabeth. Could Elizabeth have been older than 22? The children of his first marriage could have already been married. Regards, Truett W. Crumley, [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2002 1:18 AM Subject: Re: [CRUMLEY] More 1880 US census look ups? Read Carefully!! > The only Chappel Crumley in the whole US in 180... > > Census Place: Cleveland, Bradley, Tennessee > Source: FHL Film 1255245 National Archives Film T9-1245 Page 286A > > Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace > Chappel CRUMLEY Self M M W 50 GA > Occ: Laborer Fa: --- Mo: --- > Eliza CRUMLEY Wife F M W 22 VA > Occ: Keeping House Fa: VA Mo: VA > John CRUMLEY Son M S W 14 GA > Occ: Farm Hand Fa: GA Mo: --- > Mary CRUMLEY Dau F S W 3 TN > Fa: GA Mo: VA > Emma CRUMLEY Dau F S W 1 TN > Fa: GA Mo: VA > --------------------------------------------------------- > if that's not him, send me wife and children's names and I'll see what I can > find. > > Good luck, > Ella >

The only Chappel Crumley in the whole US in 180... Census Place: Cleveland, Bradley, Tennessee Source: FHL Film 1255245 National Archives Film T9-1245 Page 286A Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace Chappel CRUMLEY Self M M W 50 GA Occ: Laborer Fa: --- Mo: --- Eliza CRUMLEY Wife F M W 22 VA Occ: Keeping House Fa: VA Mo: VA John CRUMLEY Son M S W 14 GA Occ: Farm Hand Fa: GA Mo: --- Mary CRUMLEY Dau F S W 3 TN Fa: GA Mo: VA Emma CRUMLEY Dau F S W 1 TN Fa: GA Mo: VA --------------------------------------------------------- if that's not him, send me wife and children's names and I'll see what I can find. Good luck, Ella

This Wilson Crumby appeared on the 1860 Census of Gilmer Co., Georgia with a family of seven children. Wilson was born in SC about 1813. He md a woman by the first name of Lucretta about 1838. Supposely she was born in SC. The children of this couple is listed as the following: 1 - John W. (b. abt 1840-Ga.); 2 - Sarah A. (b. abt 1843-Tn.); 3 - Susan E. (b. abt 1845-Tn.); 4 - Wilson Y. (b. abt 1848-Tn.); 5 - William Smith (b. abt 1849-Tn.); 6 - Thomas T. (b. abt 1852-Tn.); and Artaminca J. (b. abt 1854-Tn.). I am seeking as much about these children as their exact births and place, marriages, deaths and burials. Let me hear from someone out there who has this necessary info. Truett Sr. Regards Truett W. Crumley Sr. [email protected]

Ken Hodges, could you give me all info about Robert Hodges, such as birth, marriage, occupation, death (if deceased) and burial? Also I seek the same info for the three children of Robert. I am also compiling the history of these CRUMLEYS and the variants. I would your info ASAP. Truett Sr. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kenneth Hodge" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 4:13 PM Subject: Re: [CRUMLEY] Crumley write-up, web site > Hi Patty, > > It seems as though we are second cousins. Your Grandfather, Joel was my > Grandfather's younger brother. > > > 1.2.3.1.6 Joel Carriger Crumley b. 8/30/1883 d. 8/29/1963 Builder > Contractor > md. 6/17/1906 > sp. Mary Ada Larkins > 1.2.3.1.6.4 Jo Carolyn (Jody) md. James Price, Yuma, Az. > > **1.2.3.1.5 Robert Taylor Crumley b. 1/20/1879 d. 2/27/1951 buried > Highland Cem. Elizabethton, Carter Co., Tn. > sp. Ida Belle Campbell b. 8/29/1886 d. 9/3/1959 buried Highland Cem. > Elizabethton, Carter Co., Tn. > *1.2.3.1.5.5 Lela Beatrice Crumley b. 10/1/1913 md. Robert David Hodge > 1.2.3.1.5.5.1 Caroline Sue > 1.2.3.1.5.5.2 Jerry Ronald > 1.2.3.1.5.5.3 Kenneth Terry > > Ken > > At 10:57 PM 04/08/2002 EDT, you wrote: > > Just wanted to tell you how impressed I am with your HARD work and how > >much I am enjoying reading thru it all. I am an East Tennessee > >Crumley...actually my mom, Jo Carolyn Crumley Price, is (we moved to > >California in 1960 when I was a child). We'd go "home" to Elizabethton, > >Tenn, in the summers, tho, and that's my roots. I have a copy of the > >"Crumley Big Book" researched for over 20 yrs by Wm. Powell Crumley (1940's, > >50's, early 60's) & privately published in 1964. So my Crumley ancestry is > >different from yours, starting with George Sr (from Germany?) born in 1746, > >then George Jr to John to George W. to my grandfather, Joel Carriger Crumley > >born in 1883. The book says the original George may be related to a > >Valentine Crumley who came to Pennsylvnia from Germany, also. > > Anyway, I just find all of this family history FASCINATING!!! And I > >congratulate you on doing a beautiful job! Printed copies for myself & my > >mom who will thoroughly enjoy it when I drive over to my folks' home in > >Henderson, Nev, next week. Thanks again for your great effort. > > Patty Owens-Marko, La Jolla, CA > > > > >

----- Original Message ----- From: "Kenneth & Clara Crumbly" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2002 3:14 PM Subject: [CRUMLEY] Murder of John Crumley > I wish to thank all who have been looking for this information for me. I > now have the following paper copy from a microfilm: Hi Ken, Congradulations on your find. I wish I could have help you more. I guess I don't know how John is connected to the family. I have a bunch of Johns but don't know which one he is. Could you send me what I have on him? I'd certainly appreciate it. I may already have it. I show the wife of William Erwin as "Taylor". No more. Mary Crumley, sister of William Erwin, is mine. She named one of her children William Erwin Cox, my grandfather. Thanks in advance, Bill Cox

We're not quite ready to solicit additional lines, Jerry, and it'll be quite a while before we post photos. We'll let you know. I've got to talk to our future web mistress before we start adding to this. Jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry L Crumly" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2002 4:07 PM Subject: Re: [CRUMLEY] CrumleyFamily test site > Jerry! Jerry here the web site looks great, would like to cotribute my down > line to it if possible. All of you cousins have been a tremendous help to > me. My dad had been working on this for years. I going to Scotts cemetery > next week and I will have more dates to add to James Jones line and I have a > picture. Peace Jerry Lee

I wish to thank all who have been looking for this information for me. I now have the following paper copy from a microfilm: GEORGIA ARCHIVES, ATLANTA, GA Microfilm: "GA EXECUTIVE MINUTES 1855-1859" CONTAINED IN DRAWER 50, BOX 53 Executive Department Millidgeville, Georgia January 16th 1858 Official information having reached this department that a murder was recently committed in the County of Fannin by one William Erwin Crumby upon the body of John Crumby, and that the said William E. Crumby has fled from justice; therefore, it is Ordered, that the Secretary of State offer a reward by Proclamation of One Hundred Dollars for the apprehension and delivery of the said fugitive to the proper authorities of the County where the said crime was committed. By the Governor Joseph E. Brown H. H. Waters Secy Ex Dept. William Erwin Crumley b. abt. 1830 was a son of Thomas Charles Crumley and Susan Terrell. John Crumley was my great great grandfather. Thanks again to all who have looked for this information for me. Ken Crumbly

Jerry! Jerry here the web site looks great, would like to cotribute my down line to it if possible. All of you cousins have been a tremendous help to me. My dad had been working on this for years. I going to Scotts cemetery next week and I will have more dates to add to James Jones line and I have a picture. Peace Jerry Lee ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Crumly" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2002 8:12 AM Subject: [CRUMLEY] CrumleyFamily test site > Not yet, Jean. The test site is at www.CrumleyFamily.org. It's a skeleton > site with few notes and no photos. The data has been partially verified, but > there is lots that hasn't. > > Jerry > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2002 2:34 PM > Subject: [CRUMLEY] Re: Old Crumley photos ready to upload:) > > > > My Son, Kevin Crumley, who is visiting from Seattle, has spent HOURS > scanning > > old photographs of our Crumley folk. > > > > Are we accepting photos yet? I have a lot to share, AND someone has > labled > > the whole lot with titles and infor on the back. > > > > Jean Barbour > > > > > >

Thanks, Jerry--and all of you who have contributed so much to this site. Jean Barbour

Not yet, Jean. The test site is at www.CrumleyFamily.org. It's a skeleton site with few notes and no photos. The data has been partially verified, but there is lots that hasn't. Jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2002 2:34 PM Subject: [CRUMLEY] Re: Old Crumley photos ready to upload:) > My Son, Kevin Crumley, who is visiting from Seattle, has spent HOURS scanning > old photographs of our Crumley folk. > > Are we accepting photos yet? I have a lot to share, AND someone has labled > the whole lot with titles and infor on the back. > > Jean Barbour > >

My Son, Kevin Crumley, who is visiting from Seattle, has spent HOURS scanning old photographs of our Crumley folk. Are we accepting photos yet? I have a lot to share, AND someone has labled the whole lot with titles and infor on the back. Jean Barbour

Ella has generously offered her time to look up 1880 census data for the List members. If you'd like for her to look up census data for you, please request it of her using her personal email address, [email protected] Please do not post your request to this List. Other list members are probably not interested, and it will just add additional email messages to their mailboxes. Thanks, Jerry

Hi Ella, I'd really appreciate it if yo could take a look for my ggrandparents: William HENSEL born 1839 in PA and Mary C. (SCHAFFER) HENSEL born in 1840 in IL Thanks, Larry [email protected] wrote: > Hi all, > Anymore FREE look ups anyone? If I didn't answer your request then you > were accidently deleted in the shuffle. Just resend it. > If you don't have all the info, send me what you do have and I'll see > what I can do. If it's too much then I'll let you know. > > Please read carefully... > > 1. Everyone alive, in the US by June 1st, 1880 is indexed. > 2. You do not need an exact year of birth, the search allows for a 5 year > difference either way. The year of birth could be different with each > census. It is hardly ever accurate! The closer the better. > 3. You do not have to tell me this but sometimes it lowers the hits if you > don't have much info. What is the race? Black, White, Mulatto, Native > American or Mexican? > 4. Oklahoma Territory is not in the census. > 5. Again...unless it's uncommon, I need a first and last name. > 6. If you don't have much info then you can try giving me the names of a > spouse and/or children that I might find on the 1880 census living with the > person you're looking for. > > What you'll receive from me... > > 1. The name of the head of household and everyone living in it. > 2. The relationship of everyone to the head of household. If the > relationship is listed as other, then they are not related. > 3. The age, race and sex of everyone. > 4. The occupation of everyone. > 5. The birth place of everyone and their parents. > 6. Microfilm info. > > There is no limit on how many look ups you can request, I only ask that > you limit it to 2 surnames per email. > > My website is coming back to life slowly but surely. You can check it > out now or you can try agin in a day or 2 if it doesn't work. > > http://members.aol.com/ella12866/index.html > > Take care, > Ella

Ella, Would you please look-up Chappel Columbus Crumley (b. 13 Aug 1846 GA). By my family records he should have been in Hays Co., TX but I have gone through every page with no luck. I show that his thrid child who was born in 1875 was born in TX as were the rest of his children. I have full access to the 1880 census but not the index, so if you could do this I would appreciate it. Thanks so much for offering to do this for people. It is a great help and is appreciated. Melissa ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 12:32 AM Subject: [CRUMLEY] More 1880 US census look ups? Read Carefully!! > Hi all, > Anymore FREE look ups anyone? If I didn't answer your request then you > were accidently deleted in the shuffle. Just resend it. > If you don't have all the info, send me what you do have and I'll see > what I can do. If it's too much then I'll let you know. > > Please read carefully... > > 1. Everyone alive, in the US by June 1st, 1880 is indexed. > 2. You do not need an exact year of birth, the search allows for a 5 year > difference either way. The year of birth could be different with each > census. It is hardly ever accurate! The closer the better. > 3. You do not have to tell me this but sometimes it lowers the hits if you > don't have much info. What is the race? Black, White, Mulatto, Native > American or Mexican? > 4. Oklahoma Territory is not in the census. > 5. Again...unless it's uncommon, I need a first and last name. > 6. If you don't have much info then you can try giving me the names of a > spouse and/or children that I might find on the 1880 census living with the > person you're looking for. > > What you'll receive from me... > > 1. The name of the head of household and everyone living in it. > 2. The relationship of everyone to the head of household. If the > relationship is listed as other, then they are not related. > 3. The age, race and sex of everyone. > 4. The occupation of everyone. > 5. The birth place of everyone and their parents. > 6. Microfilm info. > > There is no limit on how many look ups you can request, I only ask that > you limit it to 2 surnames per email. > > My website is coming back to life slowly but surely. You can check it > out now or you can try agin in a day or 2 if it doesn't work. > > http://members.aol.com/ella12866/index.html > > Take care, > Ella >