This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: DoryAnn Surnames: Cronk, Harrison, Sill, Coleman Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.cronk/526/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, I'm wondering if people are still trying to pin down a John Cronk from Westchester and if anybody else has any connection to this John Cronk. My gg-grandmother was Rebecca (maybe Cronk) from NY who married Charles F. Harrison (son of Jemima Sill and Charles Harrison) from Old Lyme, CT, in about 1836 in NY. My brick wall is her maiden name. I found a loose Cronk reference that connects to the Harrisons and it's the only connection I can find. This is the John Cronk who is floating around Westchester and Columbia Counties that I've seen reference to on this message board. Rebecca (perhaps Cronk) and Charles F. Harrison had three sons: John Sill (my ancestor) born 1839, Charles born 1837, and Oscar born 1843. Charles, born 1837, had three children: Charles, Minnie and Oscar. This makes Minnie my 1st cousin twice removed. Minnie married Henry Coleman and Minnie shows up in Volume II of FACTORS IN COLUMBIA COUNTY [NEW YORK] HISTORY published by the Hudson Gazetter in! 1900 as follows although there are some inconsistencies, especially where it says that John Cronk died in 1889 which would make him well over 100 years old at the time: Pages 297 & 298: (The Charles Harrison mentioned as one of the two male descendants of John Cronk is my g-grandfather's brother who was already dead by the time this article was written.) "COLEMAN, Minnie H.--John Cronk, after the Revolution, came from Westchester county, where he was born, and located in the vicinity of Copake in the year 1785. After working around for the settlers, he married Sarah Chrystler and took up some land on a life lease from the Livingston Patent in Taghkanic, near what is now called the New Forge, to distinguish it from the old forge at Ancram. He cleared the land and built his house, the forge being then quite a settlement, having a grist, saw and carding mills and forge. Mr. Cronk lived here some fifty-three years and was a prosperous farmer. He had a family of twelve children, all, with the exception of three, settling in Yates county. Two sons remained in Taghkanic, Samuel being a storekeeper at the forge and Jeremiah remaining on the farm. Farm land was then very fertile, and the only drawback was the distance to market, New York city, or Hartford, Conn., being the nearest to them. Mr. Cronk made many trips each fall t! o Hartford with pork and other farm products, occupying several weeks on each trip. The land seemed to be well adapted to rye, and the flour made at the forge had a wide reputation. Later in the season, when sleighing was good, New York was the market. In 1840, Mr. Cronk moved to Penn Yan with his children and died there in 1889. [NOTE: This MUST be 1839, not 1889] Jeremiah, the youngest son, still occupies the farm, and, on the sale of the Livingston patent, purchased the farm. During the anti-rent troubles he remained neutral, though his lands were often occupied by the non-rent-paying neighbors. He managed to pay his rent as usual, which was $50 a year, five bushels of rye and one pig. The forge settlement is now in a decayed condition; the manor house is destroyed and the fine water power not in use; having no railroad facilities, the place is asleep. Charles Harrison, grandson of John Cronk, and Martin L. Cronk are the only male descendants of the family. Charl! es has one son, Charles, Jr., and one daughter, Minnie, wife of Dr. He nry H. Coleman, of Mount Vernon, N. Y." CAN ANYONE ELSE MAKE A CONNECTION HERE? Or have any thoughts? Thanks, Dory Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: vickih20317 Surnames: Cronk, Phillips, Dingman Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.cronk/222.5.2.1.2.2.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank-you I would appreciate it. That would make sense because the Dingman family was from Northumberland Co. around that same time. There was a letter written that states that Hezekiah married John Cronk's neice Samantha. But nobody knows anything about a Sarah. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Robyn_Kendall Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.cronk/222.5.2.1.2.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I don't have a Sarah Cronk in my tree (at this point). However, it could be that your Sarah and brother John were the children of John Cronk (born 1785 in the US), who was the brother of William Cronk (the branch of the Cronk tree that I am off of). Both John Cronk and William Cronk were sons of Tunis Cronk, born about 1757 in New York and died in 1794 in St. Williams, Upper Canada (Ontario). The only other information that I have for John Cronk is that he married a Sarah (last name unknown) and lived in Northumberland County at the time of the 1851 Census. It would make sense that your Sarah and John were children of Sarah and John, given the tendency of the Cronks to name their children after their parents (I can't tell you how confused I got with all the Josephs, grandfather, greatgrandfather and on and on). I am traveling right now, but when I get back home (mid-Oct), I'll take a look and see if I can find out anything more about your branch. Regards, Robyn. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: vickih20317 Surnames: Cronk, Phillips, Dingman Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.cronk/300.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Do you have any info on your Cronk lines from Ontario? I am trying to find info on a Sarah Cronk born about 1816, she had a brother named John. She married Christopher Phillips and had a daughter named Samantha born in 1838. Samantha married Hezekiah Dingman about 1858. They immigrated to Hatton Twp. Clare County, Mich about 1881. I am thinking there maybe a connection with my Samantha and your Cronk family. I obtained her mother's name from her death records at the Osceola County clerks office. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: vickih20317 Surnames: Cronk, Phillips, Dingman Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.cronk/222.5.2.1.2.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I hope you can help me, I am looking for info on a Sarah Cronk born abt 1816 from around the Hastings, Northumberland County, Ontario area. She had a brother named John birthdate unknown. She married a Christopher Phillips probably around 1837. She had a daughter Samantha born in 1838. I think they lived in Ernstown. Samantha married Hezekiah Dingman around 1858. Samantha and Hezekiah lived in Belleville, Hastings Co. Hezekiah was from Northumberland County. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Lee_Cronk Surnames: Cronk, Huffman Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.cronk/218.2.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I believe I'm also a descendant of this same James Cronk and Sarah (Sallie) Travis/Traverse. They moved west, first to Ohio (a community called Bennington in either Morrow or Delaware County, depending in which record you examine) and then to Iowa (first Tama County, though eventually moving to Hardin County). While they were in Ohio in 1836, my great-great-grandfather Samuel B. Cronk was born. He married a woman from Ohio named Susan (I don't know her maiden name) and their first child John F. Cronk, born in 1876, was my great-grandfather, who was married to Lidia Charlotte Huffman. Their son Leslie M. moved to Tucson, Arizona, which is where my father and I were both born. It appears that James had another son, also named James, who also moved to Iowa. James Sr.'s older brother Samuel also seems to have moved west with the rest of them. My ability to trace this back has stopped with James Senior, who was born somewhere in Westchester County, NY, in about 1805 or 1806. Have you had any success in tracing it back before him? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: wacronk Surnames: Cronk Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.cronk/61.158.1.1.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Jane Sorry for the delay in responding. Life is hectic and I'm only online once in a blue moon. Hope the following helps. http://iagenweb.org/civilwar/books/logan/mil602.htm Roster and Record of Iowa Troops In the Rebellion, Vol. 4 By Guy E. Logan HISTORICAL SKETCH Cronk, William. Age 18. Residence Fu]ton. nativity Iowa. Enlisted Sept. 4, 1861. Mustered Sept. 28, 1861. Died of disease Oct. 29, 1863 Memphis, Tenn. Buried in Mississippi River National Cemetery, Memphis, Tenn. Section 1, grave 210. ===== He is also found in the IOWA census 1856 living with Wm Robberts [sic] and the in 1850 US Census of Iowa, living with William Roberts. He was born in Pa. ===== If you have any info on the Cronks in Tennessee in the 1800s we would appreciate it. We are concentrating on William Cronk, b abt 1826 in Tn, m Malissa Roberts and died in route to Nashville to enlist in the Union army in 1863. One of their children was Melvina b 23 Sept 1850 d abt 1892? We are looking for more information on her and her children in particular, but the whole family in general. Jim j23@aol.com Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jane9815 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.cronk/61.158.1.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am very interested in the location of the Civil war cemetary in Tennessee and the location of the gravesite for William Cronk from Iowa. My great great uncle William Cronk died in the War in October 1863. My family does not know where he was buried. Thank you. Jane Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: SANDYC Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.cronk/523.1.1.1.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Chreyl, you are welcome. Sorry I could not help. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: cherylakers50 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.cronk/523.1.1.1.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Sandy It doesn't look like our Cronks are connected. I definately know the 4 brothers were born in Westchester County, New York. Most of those tie back in to Herck, but I can't seem to do that. I have them in the 1830 census in Westchester and there are 5 or 6 head of households there, but which one is their father is a mystery. Thanks for replying. Cheryl Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: SANDYC Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.cronk/523.1.1.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Cheryl, my husband's Eli Cronk descends from Joseph Cronk b: Abt. 1799 in Culpeper Co., Virginia and Elizabeth Bingaman b: 1802 in Virginia Montgomery Co., Virginia d: 1888 in Dallas Co., Iowa. Elizabeth and Joseph married 07 Apr 1823 in Montgomery Co., Virginia. Joseph was the son of Heinrich (Henry) "Johannes Heinrich KRANK" Cronk and Elizabeth Didawick who were m: 29 Feb 1792 in Shendoah Co., VA. Henry Cronk was the son of Johann Adam Krank b: 23 Jun 1723 in Hasselberg, Wertheim, Germany d: Aft. 1776 in Montgomery Co., Pennsylvania and Anna Catharina Daubenschmidt b: 03 Mar 1727/28 in Bestenheld, G., Germany. Anna and Johann Adam were m: 25 Nov 1751 in Bestenheid, Germany and arrived in Chester Co. PA in 1752. Anna d: Aft. 1791 in Shenandoah Co.,Virginia. Eli's family moved from Surry County NC to Highland Co. OH, his father having died sometime before 1830 and place unknown. Eli married Elizabeth J. Chance in Highland Co., OH and moved to Dallas Co., IA. I have run across Cronks in Tama County Iowa, but don't know if they connect to our line or not through some of Eli's uncles. I have not found any connection to Cronk's in New York, as our Cronk (Krank/Kronk) family mostly moved south into Virginia. I have been trying to find Joerg Johann Kranck, a brother of Johann Adam Kranck who immigrated from Wertheim about the same time, but have not found him yet. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: cherylakers50 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.cronk/523.1.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Sandy I have an Eli Cronk in my line. My Cronks went from Ohio to Tama County, Iowa. I am not sure where Eli ended up. I have researched for years trying to find who my ggggrandfather's parents were. I have John Cronk who was born in Westchester County, New York around 1800-1810. He had 3 brothers that I know of, Henry, Samuel and James. My father originally said he thought our Cronks were from Pennyslvania, but I said no because I found them in New York, but now I am beginning to wonder. Do you have any record of any such Cronk family. Who were your Eli's parents?? Thanks for any help Cheryl Cronk Akers Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Robyn_Kendall Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.cronk/523.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Sandy: Thanks for your part. It seems that those Cronks got around, didn't they? I can see that I have my work cut out for me -- researching my dad's mother's line to France and my mom's father's line to Holland or wherever. Guess I better brush up on my languages! :) A Bientot --- Ciao --- Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: SANDYC Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.cronk/523.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Robin, what you found is interesting. My husband descends from Eli Cronk of Dallas Co., Iowa. A cousin told me many years ago that the family descended from one of three brothers from Holland. I tried for years to connect to the Cronks of Holland, but could not. Finally records were found back to Virginia and Pennsylvania that the family name was originally Kranck from Wertheim, Germany. After arriving in America, it evolved from Kranck to Kronk and for my husband's line, to Cronk. And a family member has traced the family back to the 1500's in Wertheim. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Robyn_Kendall Surnames: Cronk Anguish Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.cronk/523.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Debbie: Yes, it was a very interesting find. I am also a Cronk from my mother (she was a Cronk born in Ontario), and I have now traced her Cronk line back to Tunis Cronk, who was born about 1757 in New York and died in 1794 in Ontario (then Upper Canada). My mother had no indication from her father is to his nationality. There is a mention of German in the 1901 Census, but I tend to discount relying on that as "fact" because there are so many other errors in that particular Census for our family (I won't go into detail). This could have just been another mistake as the family listed above the Cronks on that Census were German, and the Census taker may have been "on a roll". He appears to have rushed through all the other little details! I could go with the Dutch theory, and there is indication that Tunis (or Teunis) was from a Dutch family that emigrated in the mid 1600s. This information can be found all over the Internet. But after seeing the book in England and the part that says "the leading genealogical society of Holland reports that the name Cronk (however spelt) does not appear anywhere in their very comprehensive records", it put that in question. Of course there is every possibility that the name changed on landing in North America. (For instance, did the author check for other forms of Cronk like Cronkhite or Crankheyt? I don't know. And was there enough research done by him in 1953 to make this conclusion? Who knows!) By the way, Teunis is a Dutch form of Anthony. I also know that the Cronks were very devout Baptists and Methodists, both religions having started in England. The first mention that I have of Baptist being their faith is the son of Tunis in the 1851 Census. A long way of saying that I guess my lead theory is still that they are of Dutch heritage. However, while I used to think that was the ONLY theory, I am now finding bits and pieces that open other doors. I think that all of this is fascinating, and hope that by putting out the seeds, someday (hopefully in MY lifetime), I will find the "missing link" that will confirm or deny. I am sort of at the same point with my mother's maternal side, which is Anguish. There is indication that that name is German (and may have been Engrish or Enguish). Do I take that as another "point" for the German theory? Then again, I found a large group of Anguishes from Norfolk, England (but no connection to mine). It's all so confusing! Having just returned from England and finding my paternal line back to the beginning of the parish records (mid 1500s), I sure wish that all of my lines were in England. Their records are so complete and detailed! So the long and short of it is, I don't have anything more at this point. But hopefully someone else will be able to add to this saga. Regards, Robyn. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: DebbieMcCarthy59 Surnames: Cronk Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.cronk/523.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Dear Robyn, I was very interested to read about your discovery on the origin of the name Cronk. This was my mother's maiden name. My Mother's name was Marion Louise(Cronk)Fanton and her father's name was Leon Cronk He was born in 1903,in Wellsville,NY,USA. He had a sister Anna b.abt. 1905. I was always told that the name was Dutch.As a matter of fact, on his Death certicate it has Dutch/German on it. I had never heard any thing about an English connection. I woould be interested in finding out more about this. I haven't been able to find out much about it. Any help would be appreciated. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: StacyCronk Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.cronk/525/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am researching the Cronk's from Michigan. They came from New York and I can get as far back as Huestus or Hustis Cronkite and his son Charles K. Cronk(ite). Somewhere between Hustis and Charles my last name was shortened. If anyone has any information regarding these people please email me. Charles K. is my GGG grandfather. He was the last surviving Civil War Vet in Kalamazoo Michigan in 1930. His son Clarence was my GG grandfather. Clarence married Anna Virgo and both are buried in Virgo Cemetery in Kalamazoo County Michigan. I can not find much info on Clarence other that he had a twin sister named Carrie and she married Thomas Gildea. Again if anyone has any info they would be willing to share I would be greatly appreciative. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: my_roots1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.cronk/222.4.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Margaret wrote: I can tell you that the family was called Sybouts/Zybouts and came from Holland in or around 1642 and settled in the New Amsterdam (now New York) area and came North. They were originally 2 brothers and a nephew. I am not sure whether it was a brother or the nephew that went to the East Coast of Canada. I hope that this gives you something to get started. Margaret; I too am a Cronk descendant from Herck Sybout and Wyntje Quick. Are you saying Herck arrived with a Brother and a nephew? This is new information to me. What were their names?, b'dates, etc. Who is the nephew a son of? I've never found anyone with any information on Herck's ancestry, siblings etc. Sue Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Robyn_Kendall Surnames: Cronk Classification: biography Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.cronk/523/mb.ashx Message Board Post: While I was in England recently (researching my father's tree), on a lark I looked up my mother's maiden name (Cronk). I found a very interesting book. Here is a little bit from it. Most interesting is the talk of it NOT being a name from Holland, and the surname's origins in the British Isles. An Uncommon Name: A Genealogical Account of the Cronk Family of West Kent By Anthony Cronk, 1953 Page 5 The name Cronk is a most distinctive monosyllable, but its etymology is not immediately apparent. Numerous theories about its origin have been advanced, not all of which bear careful scrutiny, as we shall show. It has often been suggested that it is of Continental origin on account of a slight similarity to such names as the Dutch Kranker, the Flemish Craninck, the German Krancke and Kron, and the French Cron and Croneau. The Dutch dictionary has a work kronkel, an adjective meaning "winding". Nevertheless the leading genealogical society of Holland* reports that the name Cronk (however spelt) does not appear anywhere in their very comprehensive records. If the name Cronk originated in the British Islaes, it is possible that it was derived from a place-name, as it does not at first sight appear to refer either to a baptismal name or to any occupation or office. In the Isle of Man Cronk occurs as an element in many of the Celtic place-names, e.g. Cronk-ny-Irrey Llaa (hill of the dawn) Cronk Sumark (promrose hill) Cronk-y-dooiney (hill of the man) Cronk-y-crogher (hill of the gallows) The Director of the Manx Museum points out that it is the same as the Scottish and Irish Knock, meaning "hill", but he quotes good authority that there is no indication that it ever gave rise to a personal name, and further, that there seems to be no case of a Manx personal name derived from a place-name. . Now in the parish of Limpsfield just across the Surrey border we discover a locality called Cronklands. Clearly a possessor's name, it occurs as Cronksland in a Deed of 1714. Here we find Thomas Cronge as long ago as 1430, and this surname had become Cronke by 1543. So perhaps after all Cronge is not such a far cry from Crangeld and our now-rare migrant crane. On the other hand, the Oxford English Discitonary gives "cronge" as an old and rare word meaning a hilt or handle. This could conceivably have given rise to a personal name of the occupative category denoting a maker of sword-hilts. Anyway we believe this to be a very important link in the chain, as it is the earliest relevant record we have been able to find, and the only one in the medieval period when surnames were being adopted to distinguish one family from another. Limpsfield is only nine miles from Sevenoaks, and there seems to be little doubt that we have here found the source of all the Cronks of West Kent. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Robyn_Kendall Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.cronk/61.158.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Julie: I think I have "your" William Cronk. William Cronk born 1780 in the US (according to the 1851 Canada Census) ... probably in New York. His children were all born in southern Ontario. First born was another William, born 1820. Regards Robyn (4th great-grandaughter of the 1780 William) Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.