This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: cosfordparker Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.cronk/545.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Sounds exciting! My brother (and I) are Dutch Cronkhite (Siboutszen) descendants, but through a female line, so his DNA results probably wouldn't help. :( In any case - congratulations on your progress! --Sali Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: SANDYC Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.cronk/545.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: We don't know yet. Six of our seven participants clearly connected - two in Germany and four who live in the States. Descendants of this line today in Germany have the surname "Krank." Those in the States that we know of have surnames "Kronk," "Cronk," and "Crunk." The seventh participant with the "Cronk" surname does not match and he does not know a lot about his family history. So there may be a Dutch connection. Sandy Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: cosfordparker Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.cronk/545.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello, Sandy - Any Dutch Cronk/Cronkhites fall out? --Sali Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: SANDYC Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.cronk/545/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Members of the Cronk/Krank family last year had a DNA study done to determine that our papaer trail back to the Krank/Kranck families of Wertheim Germany was correct. If you are interested in the project, please contact me. Included in the project are surnames Cronk, Crank, Crunk, Krank, Kronk, Kranck, Kronkheit, and Cronkhite/Cronkhyte. Sandy Coulter Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: SANDYC Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.cronk/25.32.35.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: My email address is now sandyc@cebridge.net rather than Sandy_Coulter@compuserve.com. The old address has not been used for some time. June 4,2009 Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hi I am interested in this.  my family is cronk which had been changed from cronkheit I beleive.  Thank You, Lea Anne Lake -----Original Message----- From: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> To: CRONK-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 4:44 pm Subject: [Cronk] Cronk Family DNA project This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: SANDYC Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.cronk/545/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Members of the Cronk/Krank family last year had a DNA study done to determine that our papaer trail back to the Krank/Kranck families of Wertheim Germany was correct. If you are interested in the project, please contact me. Included in the project are surnames Cronk, Crank, Crunk, Krank, Kronk, Kranck, Kronkheit, and Cronkhite/Cronkhyte. Sandy Coulter Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. PLEASE NOTE: To contact the List Admin privately, or to find other useful information to help you use the list more effectively please click on the following link: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/c/cronk.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CRONK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Krazyhorses Surnames: Cronk, Crozier, Patten Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.cronk/544/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Anyone have info relating to this family? Robert Graham Crozier, b 1833, New Brunswick, Canada of Thomas & Nancy Anderson - Thomas b IRE, Nancy b Nova Scotia married 1854, Trinity Church, Saint John, New Brunswick to Mary Jane Patten, b Saint John of William Patten & Mary Cronk children: Ella Graham, David William Cronk, Charles Atherton, Thomas, William Franklin, Mary Patten, Florence, Beatrice --this info was found http://members.tripod.com/~albertnb/surnamec.htm 1851, 1871, 1881 Canadian Census in New Brunswick --Robert G CROZER & family Died 1881 buried - Trinity Church 1920 US Census David William Cronk Crozier (w/ four siblings) Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Krazyhorses Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.cronk/543/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Anyone have info relating to this family? Robert Graham Crozier, b 1833, New Brunswick, Canada of Thomas & Nancy Anderson - Thomas b IRE, Nancy b Nova Scotia married 1854, Trinity Church, Saint John, New Brunswick to Mary Jane Patten, b Saint John of William Patten & Mary Cronk children: Ella Graham, David William Cronk, Charles Atherton, Thomas, William Franklin, Mary Patten, Florence, Beatrice --this info was found http://members.tripod.com/~albertnb/surnamec.htm 1851, 1871, 1881 Canadian Census in New Brunswick --Robert G CROZER & family Died 1881 buried - Trinity Church 1920 US Census David William Cronk Crozier (w/ four siblings) Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jsturner72 Surnames: Cronk, Holley Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.cronk/255.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: My grandmother is Susan Holley, Ollie and John Holley's second oldest daughter. I haven't been able to find anything about George Cronk before the 1880 census. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

It's me again as to where they where born Samuel's parents were Abraham Cronkhite and Martje Caryl they are listed in 1790 living in Caughnawaga, Montgomery, NY. Abraham and his son's came to Canada sometime between 1790-1800. The family also lived in Kinderhook, Dutchess County, the son Abraham was baptized there I think this Abraham requested a land grant in 1797 and was granted one in Percy, Northumberland. Check Bill Martin's website for Cronk records as well as Randy Saylor's site. Good luck. ----Original Message----- From: cronk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cronk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of gc-gateway@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 3:34 PM To: CRONK-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Cronk] samuel cronk parents This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Marie_Cairns Surnames: Cronk Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.cronk/542/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am looking for the parents of Samuel Cronk b. abt 1820 ON married to Eliza Mitts. Some have suggested that he is the son of George and Arvilla, however, I am not convinced, at least not this same Samuel. In the 1891 census Huntingdon Hastings ON, Samuel's parents are stated to have been born in the US. Since Arvilla is born in ON I am not convinced that we are looking at the same Samuel. In searching further, I found on the 1851 Census of Northumberland ON, a 61 year old Samuel b. US abt 1790 married to Chatherine also 61 and also born in the US. Indeed old enough to be the parents of Samuel/Eliza. On that same 1851 cencus, listed as sons of Samuel/Catherine b. in Ont Mattius 10, James 7, Byron 5. I assume they also would have older children. Does anyone know of this Samuel and Catherine and their family? or where in the US they were born? or when they entered Canada? I do not know the name of Samuel's (1820) father but am just following a possiblity. Thanks for any h! elp anyone may have. Marie Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. PLEASE NOTE: To contact the List Admin privately, or to find other useful information to help you use the list more effectively please click on the following link: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/c/cronk.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CRONK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Marie, I don't have a lot of information on this family but I do know the three boys living with them on the 1851 Census are their grandsons, why they listed them as Cronk's I don't know because they are Dingmans: There was a lot of marrying between the Dingman families and the Cronk families or at least this Cronk family. What I have is a letter written by a sister of my g-g-grandfather, the letter makes several references to this branch of the Cronk family: Joseph DINGMAN Married twice. He had three boys by his first wife, Mathias, Jeffery, and Byron. They were brought up by their grandmother, Mrs. Samuel CRONK in Cramma. If you look you will notice when the boys married they used the name Dingman. Everyone has Joseph Dingman marrying a Diantha Blakely, I presume a daughter of Samuel and Catherine, why her name is different I don't know. I hope this helps? This branch is very frustrating, I know from personal experience. ---Original Message----- From: cronk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cronk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of gc-gateway@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 3:34 PM To: CRONK-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Cronk] samuel cronk parents This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Marie_Cairns Surnames: Cronk Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.cronk/542/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am looking for the parents of Samuel Cronk b. abt 1820 ON married to Eliza Mitts. Some have suggested that he is the son of George and Arvilla, however, I am not convinced, at least not this same Samuel. In the 1891 census Huntingdon Hastings ON, Samuel's parents are stated to have been born in the US. Since Arvilla is born in ON I am not convinced that we are looking at the same Samuel. In searching further, I found on the 1851 Census of Northumberland ON, a 61 year old Samuel b. US abt 1790 married to Chatherine also 61 and also born in the US. Indeed old enough to be the parents of Samuel/Eliza. On that same 1851 cencus, listed as sons of Samuel/Catherine b. in Ont Mattius 10, James 7, Byron 5. I assume they also would have older children. Does anyone know of this Samuel and Catherine and their family? or where in the US they were born? or when they entered Canada? I do not know the name of Samuel's (1820) father but am just following a possiblity. Thanks for any h! elp anyone may have. Marie Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. PLEASE NOTE: To contact the List Admin privately, or to find other useful information to help you use the list more effectively please click on the following link: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/c/cronk.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CRONK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Marie_Cairns Surnames: Cronk Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.cronk/542/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am looking for the parents of Samuel Cronk b. abt 1820 ON married to Eliza Mitts. Some have suggested that he is the son of George and Arvilla, however, I am not convinced, at least not this same Samuel. In the 1891 census Huntingdon Hastings ON, Samuel's parents are stated to have been born in the US. Since Arvilla is born in ON I am not convinced that we are looking at the same Samuel. In searching further, I found on the 1851 Census of Northumberland ON, a 61 year old Samuel b. US abt 1790 married to Chatherine also 61 and also born in the US. Indeed old enough to be the parents of Samuel/Eliza. On that same 1851 cencus, listed as sons of Samuel/Catherine b. in Ont Mattius 10, James 7, Byron 5. I assume they also would have older children. Does anyone know of this Samuel and Catherine and their family? or where in the US they were born? or when they entered Canada? I do not know the name of Samuel's (1820) father but am just following a possiblity. Thanks for any h! elp anyone may have. Marie Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: trrabo Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.cronk/131.148.150.1.1.1.3.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: You bring up a point which I didn't think of, but should have. I have another ancestor who falsified birth dates (actually stole an identity) to serve in the Civil War because he was too young. So that kind of thing did happen and is possible. We knew about it only because the story had been documented and passed down through our family. The limits if this theory are that the date that the military has, 1810, would have only made him older. Typically those older than 45 were not wanted for enlistment. Also, as in the case of my other ancestor, American may have continued using the falsified date in order to receive any military/federal benefits IF he was entitled to any due to his service. So while it at least seems unlikely to me, your theory certainly is possible. Isn't genealogy fun! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: kamphaus48 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.cronk/131.148.150.1.1.1.3.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: My only though is that maybe he gave a false birthdate to get into the service, or the service couldn't read it on his paperwork. I agree that 10-12 years difference is quite a bit, but anything is pausable. American did have a son named American Cronk. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: trrabo Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.cronk/131.148.150.1.1.1.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: It certainly is plausible since the dates are close enough and Haley did pass in 1856 after the first census and before the second. The one piece that really strikes me as strange is the 1810 birth year on the grave really doesn't jive with the rest of these...10 to 12 years is fairly significant. And in past online research, there did seem to be at least one other American Cronk. It was common back then to be named after the nation or a person's state. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: kamphaus48 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.cronk/131.148.150.1.1.1.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I would venture to guess that these dates are all the same American Cronk. Birthdates and birth places could be the difference of who is giving the information. In the 1850 census he was married to Elizabeth. In the 1860 census he was married to Hester. Then in 1870 he was married to Margaret. So maybe the wives gave the info. Just a thought. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: trrabo Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.cronk/131.148.150.1.1.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: So the verdict is the Tennessee American Cronk is not our American Cronk...? One explanation for there being no draft card is he may have volunteered (as many did) in the year-plus before August 1862 when Lincoln initiated the draft. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: kamphaus48 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.cronk/131.148.150.1.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello, You are correct I did mean 1850 28 TN 1822. I am curious why there is no military draft card for American Cronk, but there is a discharge for American Cronk. Maybe the draft card just can't be found yet. Diane Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ruchel Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.cronk/312.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I don't know Margret's father's name. I lean toward her mother being Christine Millious of Lenox, Madison, NY. There was also a William and Margret Millious of Kinderhook, Columbia, NY who purchased land in Madison in 1812 or 1817. They later sold most of the land to Merrit Carpenter, the husband of Cornelia Melius. In 1830s they sold the rest of the lot to the next husband of Cornelia, Simon/Simeon Harp. Harp also owned land in Oswego and possibly Onondaga. My Millis/Millious line has been one hard nut to crack. Nothing seems to definitely connect people who share this name. I suppose I should look for a will in Columbia, NY for William and Margret Millious. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: plamont10 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.cronk/312.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Jacob Millious and wife Prudence Skeels arrived in Onondaga county at least by 1798. On the 1800 census they were shown with two daughters and one son. We have never located the second daughter. I have the family history of Elizabeth and my ancestor William Simeon Millious but not of that daughter. No grave found either. If you are not familiar with Henry (Hank) Jones mammoth works, The Palatine Families of New York you might want to check them out. The Millious family was part of the Palatine settlement in Dutchess and Rennselaar counties. There were other Millious families as you have noted in the Onondaga area but I have never connected them all to mine. I have found them in Michigan, Ohio, Illinois and many other states. Unfortunately for us they seem to people the earth. Early spellings were Melius,Milges,Miljes and later ones were Millis, Mellis, handwriting could appear as Million. Do you have Margaret's father's name? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.