Thanks Ian. On what documents did you find this about James and Mary? I have only Australian documents (end of voyage). -----Original Message----- From: crompton-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:crompton-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of IAN STONE Sent: Tuesday, 9 June 2009 5:04 am To: crompton@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CROMPTON] Thomas Doug Sorry mate, cant find them yet. I did see james listed on the General Hewitt age 23, so that makes him born about 1825, a couple of years younger than Mary.born 1823. Ian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Crompton" <DCrompton@atex.com> To: <crompton@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 1:59 AM Subject: Re: [CROMPTON] Thomas > Ian - are you up for a spot of detective work? > > Let me tell you about my Cromptons. > > My GGGF was a James Crompton, born Bolton around 1821. He married Mary > Dickinson at St Peters on 16th July 1843. They had several children, > starting with a James in May 1844, but they kept dying! I believe there > were a couple more, but I haven't obtained the certificates to confirm > this. He had a daughter Betsy on 27 June 1846. James became a "Bounty > Immigrant" to Botany Bay, leaving Plymouth on 12th August 1848 on the > "General Hewett", with his wife 4 months pregnant at the time, and little > Betsy barely 2 years old. Mary gave birth on 26 January 1849 to a son, > whom she again called James. Daughter Betsy subsequently died, on 4 April > 1849. Meanwhile, James senior was busy establishing himself in the > colony, and he eventually called for Mary to follow him. She and James > left Liverpool for Botany Bay on 21st April 1855 on the "Exodus". > > So, where were Mary and baby James, 2 years old, at the time of the 1851 > Census of the UK? They are known to have lived off-and-on at "Spring > Gardens" Bolton. But I can't find them in the 1851 Census! Can you? > > Strange tho it may be that Mary would leave baby James behind, I figured > that she may have been off working on Census day, leaving baby James with > a relative! Hence my interest in Thomas & family! That James, 1 year > old, marked as a "Nephew", is the only likely James that I could find. > > Your thoughts? > > -----Original Message----- > From: crompton-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:crompton-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of IAN STONE > Sent: Monday, 8 June 2009 2:31 am > To: crompton@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [CROMPTON] Thomas > > Doug > > James is 12 in 1861, this should be right as he is 1 in 1851, 21 in 1871 > and > 30 in 1881. > Thomas was in the 1871 census but not 1881, and seeing him as infirm I > think > he may well have passed away. The only Thomas who died in the 1880's in > Bolton born in 1899 was in 1876. I think he may be buried in St.Stephens > because he lived close by. If I get chance I will have a walk around the > graveyard, maybe I will see the rest of the family! > > Ian > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Doug Crompton" <DCrompton@atex.com> > To: <crompton@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2009 3:52 PM > Subject: Re: [CROMPTON] Thomas > > >> Derek >> Also, are you SURE that Jame's age is listed as 12 in the 1861 Census? >> It >> doesn't fit. 17 would fit! >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: crompton-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:crompton-bounces@rootsweb.com] >> On Behalf Of Dellcrom@aol.com >> Sent: Sunday, 7 June 2009 8:34 pm >> To: crompton@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [CROMPTON] Thomas >> >> >> Well, spotted Ian it is James my mistake. >> Should have been............ >> >> 1861census RG09/ 2836_012 page 17 >> 091: Maze Street, Darcy Lever. >> head; >> Thomas CROMPTON widower aged 63 coal banksman >> children; >> Alice (U20) cotton weaver >> James (U12) scholar >> >> border ; >> Elizabeth NUTTALL(U16) cotton weaver >> >> all born Darcy Lever, >> >> my only excuse is I was also looking at this family........... >> 1861census RG09/ 2836_007 page 08/9 >> 046: Top o'th Slakes, Darcy Lever, >> head; >> John What is the surname ? >> Betty >> children; >> two of the four are C., >> [something] father; >> John C.,(73) widower joiner born Brightmet, >> So was Betty a naughty girl or a re married widow? >> >> >> Derek Crompton >> London south-east >> no attachments to this e=mail >> //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// >> /////////////////////////////////////. >> >> ------------------------------------- >> List mail will show up in PLAIN TEXT only. >> ------------------------------------- >> This list is for the CROMPTON surname family history and gossip. >> ------------------------------------- >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cromptoninfo/ >> ================ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> CROMPTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ------------------------------------- >> List mail will show up in PLAIN TEXT only. >> ------------------------------------- >> This list is for the CROMPTON surname family history and gossip. >> ------------------------------------- >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cromptoninfo/ >> ================ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> CROMPTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------------- > List mail will show up in PLAIN TEXT only. > ------------------------------------- > This list is for the CROMPTON surname family history and gossip. > ------------------------------------- > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cromptoninfo/ > ================ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CROMPTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------------- > List mail will show up in PLAIN TEXT only. > ------------------------------------- > This list is for the CROMPTON surname family history and gossip. > ------------------------------------- > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cromptoninfo/ > ================ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CROMPTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------------- List mail will show up in PLAIN TEXT only. ------------------------------------- This list is for the CROMPTON surname family history and gossip. ------------------------------------- http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cromptoninfo/ ================ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CROMPTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message