Hello Doug, A bit more for the CROMPTON file! By now you will have seen Ellen's posting of the details of the birth/baptism of Ann CROMPTON in Spain. What a result! I'm thrilled to bits. Who would have thought about a CROMPTON from sunny Spain. It's moments like this that wipe out all the unsuccessful searches and fuel the enthusiasm to carry on with the wonderful hobby of Family History. Cheers, Carole -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 6 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 50868 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message

Hello Ellen, Thank you so, so much for this information. This is indeed the Ann I have been looking for. Amazing. Now I have to try to figure out if her mother was in England, became pregnant and returned to Spain or if Richard CROMPTON was in Spain. All the best, and a million thanks again. Carole -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 6 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 50868 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message

Good luck with Felipa Antonia, Carole! -----Original Message----- From: crompton-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:crompton-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Noden Sent: Saturday, 13 June 2009 4:12 am To: crompton@rootsweb.com Subject: [CROMPTON] Ann CROMPTON - Spain Hello Doug, Richard CROMPTON and Mary CASTLE were the ancestors of my husband. Richard was born in 1819 at Glossop, Derbyshire and died in 1848 at Hayfield, Derbyshire. In the 1841 census he is at Chapel en le Frith, Glossop, 20, papermaker. Cause of death: fever not certified. Mary was born 1817 at Glossop, Derbyshire. There is a death on Freebdm which might be her: 1891 Hayfield age 74. Apart from 1841 census she is a widow in the others to 1891 and always at Dinting, Glossop, Derbyshire. Their marriage certificate in 1840 at All Saints, Marple, gives Richard CROMPTON, papermaker, of Marple. Father: John CROMPTON, papermaker and Mary CASTLE of Marple. Father: Jonathon CASTLE, labourer. John CROMPTON, born 1788/1790, Boulton, Lancs married Sarah TAYLOR, born 1799, Manchester, in 1817 at Middleton by Oldham. These marriage details are from IGI and have not been verified by me. To answer your question: I haven't come across Mary CASTLE being Mary Anne but this doesn't mean that she wasn't although I would have thought that her marriage certificate would have shown her full name. I hope that someone is able to look in on Ancestry Worldwide and can find the details of the birth of Felipa Antonia (CROMPTON). This is how her name is shown in the index. Carole -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 6 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 50867 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message ------------------------------------- List mail will show up in PLAIN TEXT only. ------------------------------------- This list is for the CROMPTON surname family history and gossip. ------------------------------------- http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cromptoninfo/ ================ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CROMPTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Carole, Name: FELIPA ANTONIA [CROMPTON] Gender: Femenino (Female) Birth: 23 ago 1843 (23 Aug 1843) Christening Date: 28 ago 1843 (28 Aug 1843) Christening Place: Villalgordo Del Jucar, Albacete, España (Spain) Father: RICARDO CROMPTON Mother: MARIA CALST Paternal Grandfather: JUAN Paternal Grandmother: SARAH CROMPTON Maternal Grandfather: JUAN Maternal Grandmother: ANA CALST Best wishes, Ellen Original Message ----- From: "Noden" <jderek@noden99.freeserve.co.uk> To: <crompton@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 7:36 PM Subject: [CROMPTON] Ancestry Worldwide lookup > Hello listers, > > I wonder if someone with a subscription to Ancestry Worldwide would be > kind > enough to do a lookup for me? > > I would like the information about the birth of Felipa Antonia (CROMPTON). > The birth took place in the Albacete Province, Spain. I only have a > subscription for the basic grade of Ancestry. > > Thank you, and I would be so grateful if someone could help. > > All the best, > Carole, > Kent, > UK > > > -- > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. > We are a community of 6 million users fighting spam. > SPAMfighter has removed 50868 of my spam emails to date. > Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len > > The Professional version does not have this message > > > > ------------------------------------- > List mail will show up in PLAIN TEXT only. > ------------------------------------- > This list is for the CROMPTON surname family history and gossip. > ------------------------------------- > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cromptoninfo/ > ================ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CROMPTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello listers, I wonder if someone with a subscription to Ancestry Worldwide would be kind enough to do a lookup for me? I would like the information about the birth of Felipa Antonia (CROMPTON). The birth took place in the Albacete Province, Spain. I only have a subscription for the basic grade of Ancestry. Thank you, and I would be so grateful if someone could help. All the best, Carole, Kent, UK -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 6 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 50868 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message

Hello Doug, Richard CROMPTON and Mary CASTLE were the ancestors of my husband. Richard was born in 1819 at Glossop, Derbyshire and died in 1848 at Hayfield, Derbyshire. In the 1841 census he is at Chapel en le Frith, Glossop, 20, papermaker. Cause of death: fever not certified. Mary was born 1817 at Glossop, Derbyshire. There is a death on Freebdm which might be her: 1891 Hayfield age 74. Apart from 1841 census she is a widow in the others to 1891 and always at Dinting, Glossop, Derbyshire. Their marriage certificate in 1840 at All Saints, Marple, gives Richard CROMPTON, papermaker, of Marple. Father: John CROMPTON, papermaker and Mary CASTLE of Marple. Father: Jonathon CASTLE, labourer. John CROMPTON, born 1788/1790, Boulton, Lancs married Sarah TAYLOR, born 1799, Manchester, in 1817 at Middleton by Oldham. These marriage details are from IGI and have not been verified by me. To answer your question: I haven't come across Mary CASTLE being Mary Anne but this doesn't mean that she wasn't although I would have thought that her marriage certificate would have shown her full name. I hope that someone is able to look in on Ancestry Worldwide and can find the details of the birth of Felipa Antonia (CROMPTON). This is how her name is shown in the index. Carole -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 6 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 50867 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message

Thanks Ian! Can you possibly email a JPG to me at dcrompton@atex.com. -----Original Message----- From: crompton-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:crompton-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dellcrom@aol.com Sent: Friday, 12 June 2009 3:55 pm To: crompton@rootsweb.com Subject: [CROMPTON] James(alive1848) Post forwarded by list admin. >From ipd.stone@ Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 10:00 AM Subject: Re: [CROMPTON] Thomas Reason 1) Using wrong subject heading 2) Message to large(<40KB) ............................. Doug As you know 1841 is a bit confusing, but I have record of a family living in York Street, Bolton. See what you think. Ian > Ian > > I have another detective job for you, should you choose to accept it ... > > You checked out the NSW Assisted Immigrants List, online. In the > Immigration Record for the "General Hewitt" in 1848, page 184, in the > column headed "Parent's Names, and, if alive, their residences", James > Crompton reported: "Richard & Mary Anne, mother living". > > Now, that information doesn't tally with the other information that I have > about James Crompton. I have it that he was a bastard, mother Catherine > Crompton. > > So, either I am wrong, or James lied! He may have been ashamed to be a > bastard, and made up the name of his father. But why give a different > mother's name? > > I have looked for a likely pair of Richard & Mary Anne Crompton, with Mary > Anne still alive in 1848 when the General Hewitt set sail. But finding a > matching pair has proven difficult. The 1841 Census may show something! > > What do you think? > > Best regards > Doug ------------------------------------- List mail will show up in PLAIN TEXT only. ------------------------------------- This list is for the CROMPTON surname family history and gossip. ------------------------------------- http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cromptoninfo/ ================ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CROMPTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Carole Can you tell me more about Richard & Mary Crompton, please. Was Mary by any chance "Mary Anne"? -----Original Message----- From: crompton-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:crompton-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Noden Sent: Friday, 12 June 2009 5:31 am To: crompton@rootsweb.com Subject: [CROMPTON] Ann CROMPTON- Spain Hello Doug, Thank you for your response to my query re Ann CROMPTON - Spain. The 1851 census does indeed show Ann CROMPTON being the 'niece' of the head of household, Josiah BARLEW (BARLOW). Since receiving your rmessage I have found a marriage for Josiah BARLOW and Nancy CASTLE - Hayfield - SeptQ 1842. It looks as though Ann CROMPTON might be the daughter of Richard CROMPTON and Mary CASTLE and Nancy is the sister of Mary. Richard CROMPTON died in 1848 aged 29 so perhaps the children stayed with more prosperous relatives. I have a couple more children of Richard and Mary - John born 1841 Dinting and George born 1846, Whitfield. This John and George were butchers in Stockport. I have also found, on Ancestry, a birth in Albacete Province, Spain, for Felipa Antonia (CROMPTON). This is on the Worldwide grade of Ancestry and unfortunately my subscription is for the basic grade which means that I cannot access the details of this birth to see if it might be the Ann CROMPTON I am looking for. I'm not hopeful but it would be a start. All the best, Carole -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 6 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 50867 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message ------------------------------------- List mail will show up in PLAIN TEXT only. ------------------------------------- This list is for the CROMPTON surname family history and gossip. ------------------------------------- http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cromptoninfo/ ================ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CROMPTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Good work, Carole! Someone may be able to look up Ancestry for you for Felipa Antonia Crompton in Spain! Good luck! -----Original Message----- From: crompton-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:crompton-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Noden Sent: Friday, 12 June 2009 5:31 am To: crompton@rootsweb.com Subject: [CROMPTON] Ann CROMPTON- Spain Hello Doug, Thank you for your response to my query re Ann CROMPTON - Spain. The 1851 census does indeed show Ann CROMPTON being the 'niece' of the head of household, Josiah BARLEW (BARLOW). Since receiving your rmessage I have found a marriage for Josiah BARLOW and Nancy CASTLE - Hayfield - SeptQ 1842. It looks as though Ann CROMPTON might be the daughter of Richard CROMPTON and Mary CASTLE and Nancy is the sister of Mary. Richard CROMPTON died in 1848 aged 29 so perhaps the children stayed with more prosperous relatives. I have a couple more children of Richard and Mary - John born 1841 Dinting and George born 1846, Whitfield. This John and George were butchers in Stockport. I have also found, on Ancestry, a birth in Albacete Province, Spain, for Felipa Antonia (CROMPTON). This is on the Worldwide grade of Ancestry and unfortunately my subscription is for the basic grade which means that I cannot access the details of this birth to see if it might be the Ann CROMPTON I am looking for. I'm not hopeful but it would be a start. All the best, Carole -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 6 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 50867 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message ------------------------------------- List mail will show up in PLAIN TEXT only. ------------------------------------- This list is for the CROMPTON surname family history and gossip. ------------------------------------- http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cromptoninfo/ ================ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CROMPTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

All 13 Welsh counties are now available on _http://www.1911census.co.uk/_ (http://www.1911census.co.uk/) This is a free search. But, pay to view site. Note some might be in Welsh. As always, always interested in any results found. Derek Crompton London south-east

Post forwarded by list admin. >From ipd.stone@ Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 10:00 AM Subject: Re: [CROMPTON] Thomas Reason 1) Using wrong subject heading 2) Message to large(<40KB) ............................. Doug As you know 1841 is a bit confusing, but I have record of a family living in York Street, Bolton. See what you think. Ian > Ian > > I have another detective job for you, should you choose to accept it ... > > You checked out the NSW Assisted Immigrants List, online. In the > Immigration Record for the "General Hewitt" in 1848, page 184, in the > column headed "Parent's Names, and, if alive, their residences", James > Crompton reported: "Richard & Mary Anne, mother living". > > Now, that information doesn't tally with the other information that I have > about James Crompton. I have it that he was a bastard, mother Catherine > Crompton. > > So, either I am wrong, or James lied! He may have been ashamed to be a > bastard, and made up the name of his father. But why give a different > mother's name? > > I have looked for a likely pair of Richard & Mary Anne Crompton, with Mary > Anne still alive in 1848 when the General Hewitt set sail. But finding a > matching pair has proven difficult. The 1841 Census may show something! > > What do you think? > > Best regards > Doug

Hello Doug, Thank you for your response to my query re Ann CROMPTON - Spain. The 1851 census does indeed show Ann CROMPTON being the 'niece' of the head of household, Josiah BARLEW (BARLOW). Since receiving your rmessage I have found a marriage for Josiah BARLOW and Nancy CASTLE - Hayfield - SeptQ 1842. It looks as though Ann CROMPTON might be the daughter of Richard CROMPTON and Mary CASTLE and Nancy is the sister of Mary. Richard CROMPTON died in 1848 aged 29 so perhaps the children stayed with more prosperous relatives. I have a couple more children of Richard and Mary - John born 1841 Dinting and George born 1846, Whitfield. This John and George were butchers in Stockport. I have also found, on Ancestry, a birth in Albacete Province, Spain, for Felipa Antonia (CROMPTON). This is on the Worldwide grade of Ancestry and unfortunately my subscription is for the basic grade which means that I cannot access the details of this birth to see if it might be the Ann CROMPTON I am looking for. I'm not hopeful but it would be a start. All the best, Carole -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 6 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 50867 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message

Ian I have another detective job for you, should you choose to accept it ... You checked out the NSW Assisted Immigrants List, online. In the Immigration Record for the "General Hewitt" in 1848, page 184, in the column headed "Parent's Names, and, if alive, their residences", James Crompton reported: "Richard & Mary Anne, mother living". Now, that information doesn't tally with the other information that I have about James Crompton. I have it that he was a bastard, mother Catherine Crompton. So, either I am wrong, or James lied! He may have been ashamed to be a bastard, and made up the name of his father. But why give a different mother's name? I have looked for a likely pair of Richard & Mary Anne Crompton, with Mary Anne still alive in 1848 when the General Hewitt set sail. But finding a matching pair has proven difficult. The 1841 Census may show something! What do you think? Best regards Doug -----Original Message----- From: crompton-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:crompton-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of IAN STONE Sent: Wednesday, 10 June 2009 2:49 am To: crompton@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CROMPTON] Thomas Doug I just looked them up on the NSW Assisted immigrants list, just to find there ages. Ian PS I have recently been researching my gg grandfathers brother HENRY CROMPTON b.1834 in Bolton. If you come across anybody who is descended from them can you let me know, he had a large family all born in Reading but where living in Lambeth in 1901.. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Crompton" <DCrompton@atex.com> To: <crompton@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 12:37 AM Subject: Re: [CROMPTON] Thomas > Thanks Ian. > > On what documents did you find this about James and Mary? I have only > Australian documents (end of voyage). > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: crompton-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:crompton-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of IAN STONE > Sent: Tuesday, 9 June 2009 5:04 am > To: crompton@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [CROMPTON] Thomas > > Doug > > Sorry mate, cant find them yet. I did see james listed on the General > Hewitt > age 23, so that makes him born about 1825, a couple of years younger than > Mary.born 1823. > > Ian > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Doug Crompton" <DCrompton@atex.com> > To: <crompton@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 1:59 AM > Subject: Re: [CROMPTON] Thomas > > >> Ian - are you up for a spot of detective work? >> >> Let me tell you about my Cromptons. >> >> My GGGF was a James Crompton, born Bolton around 1821. He married Mary >> Dickinson at St Peters on 16th July 1843. They had several children, >> starting with a James in May 1844, but they kept dying! I believe there >> were a couple more, but I haven't obtained the certificates to confirm >> this. He had a daughter Betsy on 27 June 1846. James became a "Bounty >> Immigrant" to Botany Bay, leaving Plymouth on 12th August 1848 on the >> "General Hewett", with his wife 4 months pregnant at the time, and little >> Betsy barely 2 years old. Mary gave birth on 26 January 1849 to a son, >> whom she again called James. Daughter Betsy subsequently died, on 4 >> April >> 1849. Meanwhile, James senior was busy establishing himself in the >> colony, and he eventually called for Mary to follow him. She and James >> left Liverpool for Botany Bay on 21st April 1855 on the "Exodus". >> >> So, where were Mary and baby James, 2 years old, at the time of the 1851 >> Census of the UK? They are known to have lived off-and-on at "Spring >> Gardens" Bolton. But I can't find them in the 1851 Census! Can you? >> >> Strange tho it may be that Mary would leave baby James behind, I figured >> that she may have been off working on Census day, leaving baby James with >> a relative! Hence my interest in Thomas & family! That James, 1 year >> old, marked as a "Nephew", is the only likely James that I could find. >> >> Your thoughts? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: crompton-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:crompton-bounces@rootsweb.com] >> On Behalf Of IAN STONE >> Sent: Monday, 8 June 2009 2:31 am >> To: crompton@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [CROMPTON] Thomas >> >> Doug >> >> James is 12 in 1861, this should be right as he is 1 in 1851, 21 in 1871 >> and >> 30 in 1881. >> Thomas was in the 1871 census but not 1881, and seeing him as infirm I >> think >> he may well have passed away. The only Thomas who died in the 1880's in >> Bolton born in 1899 was in 1876. I think he may be buried in St.Stephens >> because he lived close by. If I get chance I will have a walk around the >> graveyard, maybe I will see the rest of the family! >> >> Ian >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Doug Crompton" <DCrompton@atex.com> >> To: <crompton@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2009 3:52 PM >> Subject: Re: [CROMPTON] Thomas >> >> >>> Derek >>> Also, are you SURE that Jame's age is listed as 12 in the 1861 Census? >>> It >>> doesn't fit. 17 would fit! >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: crompton-bounces@rootsweb.com >>> [mailto:crompton-bounces@rootsweb.com] >>> On Behalf Of Dellcrom@aol.com >>> Sent: Sunday, 7 June 2009 8:34 pm >>> To: crompton@rootsweb.com >>> Subject: Re: [CROMPTON] Thomas >>> >>> >>> Well, spotted Ian it is James my mistake. >>> Should have been............ >>> >>> 1861census RG09/ 2836_012 page 17 >>> 091: Maze Street, Darcy Lever. >>> head; >>> Thomas CROMPTON widower aged 63 coal banksman >>> children; >>> Alice (U20) cotton weaver >>> James (U12) scholar >>> >>> border ; >>> Elizabeth NUTTALL(U16) cotton weaver >>> >>> all born Darcy Lever, >>> >>> my only excuse is I was also looking at this family........... >>> 1861census RG09/ 2836_007 page 08/9 >>> 046: Top o'th Slakes, Darcy Lever, >>> head; >>> John What is the surname ? >>> Betty >>> children; >>> two of the four are C., >>> [something] father; >>> John C.,(73) widower joiner born Brightmet, >>> So was Betty a naughty girl or a re married widow? >>> >>> >>> Derek Crompton >>> London south-east >>> no attachments to this e=mail >>> //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// >>> /////////////////////////////////////. >>> >>> ------------------------------------- >>> List mail will show up in PLAIN TEXT only. >>> ------------------------------------- >>> This list is for the CROMPTON surname family history and gossip. >>> ------------------------------------- >>> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cromptoninfo/ >>> ================ >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> CROMPTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> ------------------------------------- >>> List mail will show up in PLAIN TEXT only. >>> ------------------------------------- >>> This list is for the CROMPTON surname family history and gossip. >>> ------------------------------------- >>> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cromptoninfo/ >>> ================ >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> CROMPTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ------------------------------------- >> List mail will show up in PLAIN TEXT only. >> ------------------------------------- >> This list is for the CROMPTON surname family history and gossip. >> ------------------------------------- >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cromptoninfo/ >> ================ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> CROMPTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ------------------------------------- >> List mail will show up in PLAIN TEXT only. >> ------------------------------------- >> This list is for the CROMPTON surname family history and gossip. >> ------------------------------------- >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cromptoninfo/ >> ================ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> CROMPTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------------- > List mail will show up in PLAIN TEXT only. > ------------------------------------- > This list is for the CROMPTON surname family history and gossip. > ------------------------------------- > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cromptoninfo/ > ================ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CROMPTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------------- > List mail will show up in PLAIN TEXT only. > ------------------------------------- > This list is for the CROMPTON surname family history and gossip. > ------------------------------------- > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cromptoninfo/ > ================ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CROMPTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------------- List mail will show up in PLAIN TEXT only. ------------------------------------- This list is for the CROMPTON surname family history and gossip. ------------------------------------- http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cromptoninfo/ ================ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CROMPTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Carole You say that in the 1851 census Ann Crompton is at Dinting Vale, Dinting, with Josiah BARLEW and family, age 7, and is listed as 'niece'. If you can trust the usage of the word "niece", then that means one of her parents was a sibling of Josiah Barlew - doesn't it? Can't be her father, I guess. It must be her mother, then. So, was Mary Castle the sister of Josiah Barlew? Can only be the case, I would think, if Mary had been previously married to a Mr Castle, and he had died, before she presumably married Mr Crompton. No? -----Original Message----- From: crompton-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:crompton-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Noden Sent: Tuesday, 9 June 2009 4:07 am To: crompton@rootsweb.com Subject: [CROMPTON] Ann CROMPTON - Spain? Hello Doug and fellow listers, Does anyone know anything about an Ann CROMPTON who was born in Spain in 1844? In the 1851 census she is at Dinting Vale, Dinting with Josiah BARLEW and family, age 7, and is listed as 'niece'. >From then on until 1901 census she is at Dinting/Dinting Lane, Glossop. My interest is in finding out if she is indeed the daughter of Richard CROMPTON (b. 1819 Glossop and d. 1848 Hayfield) and Mary CASTLE, b. 1817 Glossop. If she is then I would like to know what they were doing in Spain and if she is not then I have to start again. She is with Mary CROMPTON (CASTLE) in most of the censuses and Mary is living with Ann and husband James LEE in, Dinting in the 1891census. How on earth did she become to be born in Spain? Hope someone can throw some light on this wee problem, Carole Noden -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 6 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 50865 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message ------------------------------------- List mail will show up in PLAIN TEXT only. ------------------------------------- This list is for the CROMPTON surname family history and gossip. ------------------------------------- http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cromptoninfo/ ================ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CROMPTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Okay, Ian will check my notes for Henry Crompton, born Bolton in 1834. Thanks for the feedback about the NSW Assisted Immigrants List. I must say that I had hoped that the UK would also have maintained paperwork for each departing vessel, and I thought that maybe you had accessed that ie. another source! -----Original Message----- From: crompton-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:crompton-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of IAN STONE Sent: Wednesday, 10 June 2009 2:49 am To: crompton@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CROMPTON] Thomas Doug I just looked them up on the NSW Assisted immigrants list, just to find there ages. Ian PS I have recently been researching my gg grandfathers brother HENRY CROMPTON b.1834 in Bolton. If you come across anybody who is descended from them can you let me know, he had a large family all born in Reading but where living in Lambeth in 1901.. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Crompton" <DCrompton@atex.com> To: <crompton@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 12:37 AM Subject: Re: [CROMPTON] Thomas > Thanks Ian. > > On what documents did you find this about James and Mary? I have only > Australian documents (end of voyage). > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: crompton-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:crompton-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of IAN STONE > Sent: Tuesday, 9 June 2009 5:04 am > To: crompton@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [CROMPTON] Thomas > > Doug > > Sorry mate, cant find them yet. I did see james listed on the General > Hewitt > age 23, so that makes him born about 1825, a couple of years younger than > Mary.born 1823. > > Ian > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Doug Crompton" <DCrompton@atex.com> > To: <crompton@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 1:59 AM > Subject: Re: [CROMPTON] Thomas > > >> Ian - are you up for a spot of detective work? >> >> Let me tell you about my Cromptons. >> >> My GGGF was a James Crompton, born Bolton around 1821. He married Mary >> Dickinson at St Peters on 16th July 1843. They had several children, >> starting with a James in May 1844, but they kept dying! I believe there >> were a couple more, but I haven't obtained the certificates to confirm >> this. He had a daughter Betsy on 27 June 1846. James became a "Bounty >> Immigrant" to Botany Bay, leaving Plymouth on 12th August 1848 on the >> "General Hewett", with his wife 4 months pregnant at the time, and little >> Betsy barely 2 years old. Mary gave birth on 26 January 1849 to a son, >> whom she again called James. Daughter Betsy subsequently died, on 4 >> April >> 1849. Meanwhile, James senior was busy establishing himself in the >> colony, and he eventually called for Mary to follow him. She and James >> left Liverpool for Botany Bay on 21st April 1855 on the "Exodus". >> >> So, where were Mary and baby James, 2 years old, at the time of the 1851 >> Census of the UK? They are known to have lived off-and-on at "Spring >> Gardens" Bolton. But I can't find them in the 1851 Census! Can you? >> >> Strange tho it may be that Mary would leave baby James behind, I figured >> that she may have been off working on Census day, leaving baby James with >> a relative! Hence my interest in Thomas & family! That James, 1 year >> old, marked as a "Nephew", is the only likely James that I could find. >> >> Your thoughts? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: crompton-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:crompton-bounces@rootsweb.com] >> On Behalf Of IAN STONE >> Sent: Monday, 8 June 2009 2:31 am >> To: crompton@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [CROMPTON] Thomas >> >> Doug >> >> James is 12 in 1861, this should be right as he is 1 in 1851, 21 in 1871 >> and >> 30 in 1881. >> Thomas was in the 1871 census but not 1881, and seeing him as infirm I >> think >> he may well have passed away. The only Thomas who died in the 1880's in >> Bolton born in 1899 was in 1876. I think he may be buried in St.Stephens >> because he lived close by. If I get chance I will have a walk around the >> graveyard, maybe I will see the rest of the family! >> >> Ian >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Doug Crompton" <DCrompton@atex.com> >> To: <crompton@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2009 3:52 PM >> Subject: Re: [CROMPTON] Thomas >> >> >>> Derek >>> Also, are you SURE that Jame's age is listed as 12 in the 1861 Census? >>> It >>> doesn't fit. 17 would fit! >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: crompton-bounces@rootsweb.com >>> [mailto:crompton-bounces@rootsweb.com] >>> On Behalf Of Dellcrom@aol.com >>> Sent: Sunday, 7 June 2009 8:34 pm >>> To: crompton@rootsweb.com >>> Subject: Re: [CROMPTON] Thomas >>> >>> >>> Well, spotted Ian it is James my mistake. >>> Should have been............ >>> >>> 1861census RG09/ 2836_012 page 17 >>> 091: Maze Street, Darcy Lever. >>> head; >>> Thomas CROMPTON widower aged 63 coal banksman >>> children; >>> Alice (U20) cotton weaver >>> James (U12) scholar >>> >>> border ; >>> Elizabeth NUTTALL(U16) cotton weaver >>> >>> all born Darcy Lever, >>> >>> my only excuse is I was also looking at this family........... >>> 1861census RG09/ 2836_007 page 08/9 >>> 046: Top o'th Slakes, Darcy Lever, >>> head; >>> John What is the surname ? >>> Betty >>> children; >>> two of the four are C., >>> [something] father; >>> John C.,(73) widower joiner born Brightmet, >>> So was Betty a naughty girl or a re married widow? >>> >>> >>> Derek Crompton >>> London south-east >>> no attachments to this e=mail >>> //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// >>> /////////////////////////////////////. >>> >>> ------------------------------------- >>> List mail will show up in PLAIN TEXT only. >>> ------------------------------------- >>> This list is for the CROMPTON surname family history and gossip. >>> ------------------------------------- >>> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cromptoninfo/ >>> ================ >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> CROMPTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> ------------------------------------- >>> List mail will show up in PLAIN TEXT only. >>> ------------------------------------- >>> This list is for the CROMPTON surname family history and gossip. >>> ------------------------------------- >>> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cromptoninfo/ >>> ================ >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> CROMPTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ------------------------------------- >> List mail will show up in PLAIN TEXT only. >> ------------------------------------- >> This list is for the CROMPTON surname family history and gossip. >> ------------------------------------- >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cromptoninfo/ >> ================ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> CROMPTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ------------------------------------- >> List mail will show up in PLAIN TEXT only. >> ------------------------------------- >> This list is for the CROMPTON surname family history and gossip. >> ------------------------------------- >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cromptoninfo/ >> ================ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> CROMPTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------------- > List mail will show up in PLAIN TEXT only. > ------------------------------------- > This list is for the CROMPTON surname family history and gossip. > ------------------------------------- > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cromptoninfo/ > ================ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CROMPTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------------- > List mail will show up in PLAIN TEXT only. > ------------------------------------- > This list is for the CROMPTON surname family history and gossip. > ------------------------------------- > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cromptoninfo/ > ================ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CROMPTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------------- List mail will show up in PLAIN TEXT only. ------------------------------------- This list is for the CROMPTON surname family history and gossip. ------------------------------------- http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cromptoninfo/ ================ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CROMPTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Doug I just looked them up on the NSW Assisted immigrants list, just to find there ages. Ian PS I have recently been researching my gg grandfathers brother HENRY CROMPTON b.1834 in Bolton. If you come across anybody who is descended from them can you let me know, he had a large family all born in Reading but where living in Lambeth in 1901.. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Crompton" <DCrompton@atex.com> To: <crompton@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 12:37 AM Subject: Re: [CROMPTON] Thomas > Thanks Ian. > > On what documents did you find this about James and Mary? I have only > Australian documents (end of voyage). > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: crompton-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:crompton-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of IAN STONE > Sent: Tuesday, 9 June 2009 5:04 am > To: crompton@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [CROMPTON] Thomas > > Doug > > Sorry mate, cant find them yet. I did see james listed on the General > Hewitt > age 23, so that makes him born about 1825, a couple of years younger than > Mary.born 1823. > > Ian > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Doug Crompton" <DCrompton@atex.com> > To: <crompton@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 1:59 AM > Subject: Re: [CROMPTON] Thomas > > >> Ian - are you up for a spot of detective work? >> >> Let me tell you about my Cromptons. >> >> My GGGF was a James Crompton, born Bolton around 1821. He married Mary >> Dickinson at St Peters on 16th July 1843. They had several children, >> starting with a James in May 1844, but they kept dying! I believe there >> were a couple more, but I haven't obtained the certificates to confirm >> this. He had a daughter Betsy on 27 June 1846. James became a "Bounty >> Immigrant" to Botany Bay, leaving Plymouth on 12th August 1848 on the >> "General Hewett", with his wife 4 months pregnant at the time, and little >> Betsy barely 2 years old. Mary gave birth on 26 January 1849 to a son, >> whom she again called James. Daughter Betsy subsequently died, on 4 >> April >> 1849. Meanwhile, James senior was busy establishing himself in the >> colony, and he eventually called for Mary to follow him. She and James >> left Liverpool for Botany Bay on 21st April 1855 on the "Exodus". >> >> So, where were Mary and baby James, 2 years old, at the time of the 1851 >> Census of the UK? They are known to have lived off-and-on at "Spring >> Gardens" Bolton. But I can't find them in the 1851 Census! Can you? >> >> Strange tho it may be that Mary would leave baby James behind, I figured >> that she may have been off working on Census day, leaving baby James with >> a relative! Hence my interest in Thomas & family! That James, 1 year >> old, marked as a "Nephew", is the only likely James that I could find. >> >> Your thoughts? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: crompton-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:crompton-bounces@rootsweb.com] >> On Behalf Of IAN STONE >> Sent: Monday, 8 June 2009 2:31 am >> To: crompton@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [CROMPTON] Thomas >> >> Doug >> >> James is 12 in 1861, this should be right as he is 1 in 1851, 21 in 1871 >> and >> 30 in 1881. >> Thomas was in the 1871 census but not 1881, and seeing him as infirm I >> think >> he may well have passed away. The only Thomas who died in the 1880's in >> Bolton born in 1899 was in 1876. I think he may be buried in St.Stephens >> because he lived close by. If I get chance I will have a walk around the >> graveyard, maybe I will see the rest of the family! >> >> Ian >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Doug Crompton" <DCrompton@atex.com> >> To: <crompton@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2009 3:52 PM >> Subject: Re: [CROMPTON] Thomas >> >> >>> Derek >>> Also, are you SURE that Jame's age is listed as 12 in the 1861 Census? >>> It >>> doesn't fit. 17 would fit! >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: crompton-bounces@rootsweb.com >>> [mailto:crompton-bounces@rootsweb.com] >>> On Behalf Of Dellcrom@aol.com >>> Sent: Sunday, 7 June 2009 8:34 pm >>> To: crompton@rootsweb.com >>> Subject: Re: [CROMPTON] Thomas >>> >>> >>> Well, spotted Ian it is James my mistake. >>> Should have been............ >>> >>> 1861census RG09/ 2836_012 page 17 >>> 091: Maze Street, Darcy Lever. >>> head; >>> Thomas CROMPTON widower aged 63 coal banksman >>> children; >>> Alice (U20) cotton weaver >>> James (U12) scholar >>> >>> border ; >>> Elizabeth NUTTALL(U16) cotton weaver >>> >>> all born Darcy Lever, >>> >>> my only excuse is I was also looking at this family........... >>> 1861census RG09/ 2836_007 page 08/9 >>> 046: Top o'th Slakes, Darcy Lever, >>> head; >>> John What is the surname ? >>> Betty >>> children; >>> two of the four are C., >>> [something] father; >>> John C.,(73) widower joiner born Brightmet, >>> So was Betty a naughty girl or a re married widow? >>> >>> >>> Derek Crompton >>> London south-east >>> no attachments to this e=mail >>> //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// >>> /////////////////////////////////////. >>> >>> ------------------------------------- >>> List mail will show up in PLAIN TEXT only. >>> ------------------------------------- >>> This list is for the CROMPTON surname family history and gossip. >>> ------------------------------------- >>> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cromptoninfo/ >>> ================ >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> CROMPTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> ------------------------------------- >>> List mail will show up in PLAIN TEXT only. >>> ------------------------------------- >>> This list is for the CROMPTON surname family history and gossip. >>> ------------------------------------- >>> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cromptoninfo/ >>> ================ >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> CROMPTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ------------------------------------- >> List mail will show up in PLAIN TEXT only. >> ------------------------------------- >> This list is for the CROMPTON surname family history and gossip. >> ------------------------------------- >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cromptoninfo/ >> ================ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> CROMPTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ------------------------------------- >> List mail will show up in PLAIN TEXT only. >> ------------------------------------- >> This list is for the CROMPTON surname family history and gossip. >> ------------------------------------- >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cromptoninfo/ >> ================ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> CROMPTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------------- > List mail will show up in PLAIN TEXT only. > ------------------------------------- > This list is for the CROMPTON surname family history and gossip. > ------------------------------------- > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cromptoninfo/ > ================ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CROMPTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------------- > List mail will show up in PLAIN TEXT only. > ------------------------------------- > This list is for the CROMPTON surname family history and gossip. > ------------------------------------- > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cromptoninfo/ > ================ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CROMPTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Ian. On what documents did you find this about James and Mary? I have only Australian documents (end of voyage). -----Original Message----- From: crompton-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:crompton-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of IAN STONE Sent: Tuesday, 9 June 2009 5:04 am To: crompton@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CROMPTON] Thomas Doug Sorry mate, cant find them yet. I did see james listed on the General Hewitt age 23, so that makes him born about 1825, a couple of years younger than Mary.born 1823. Ian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Crompton" <DCrompton@atex.com> To: <crompton@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 1:59 AM Subject: Re: [CROMPTON] Thomas > Ian - are you up for a spot of detective work? > > Let me tell you about my Cromptons. > > My GGGF was a James Crompton, born Bolton around 1821. He married Mary > Dickinson at St Peters on 16th July 1843. They had several children, > starting with a James in May 1844, but they kept dying! I believe there > were a couple more, but I haven't obtained the certificates to confirm > this. He had a daughter Betsy on 27 June 1846. James became a "Bounty > Immigrant" to Botany Bay, leaving Plymouth on 12th August 1848 on the > "General Hewett", with his wife 4 months pregnant at the time, and little > Betsy barely 2 years old. Mary gave birth on 26 January 1849 to a son, > whom she again called James. Daughter Betsy subsequently died, on 4 April > 1849. Meanwhile, James senior was busy establishing himself in the > colony, and he eventually called for Mary to follow him. She and James > left Liverpool for Botany Bay on 21st April 1855 on the "Exodus". > > So, where were Mary and baby James, 2 years old, at the time of the 1851 > Census of the UK? They are known to have lived off-and-on at "Spring > Gardens" Bolton. But I can't find them in the 1851 Census! Can you? > > Strange tho it may be that Mary would leave baby James behind, I figured > that she may have been off working on Census day, leaving baby James with > a relative! Hence my interest in Thomas & family! That James, 1 year > old, marked as a "Nephew", is the only likely James that I could find. > > Your thoughts? > > -----Original Message----- > From: crompton-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:crompton-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of IAN STONE > Sent: Monday, 8 June 2009 2:31 am > To: crompton@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [CROMPTON] Thomas > > Doug > > James is 12 in 1861, this should be right as he is 1 in 1851, 21 in 1871 > and > 30 in 1881. > Thomas was in the 1871 census but not 1881, and seeing him as infirm I > think > he may well have passed away. The only Thomas who died in the 1880's in > Bolton born in 1899 was in 1876. I think he may be buried in St.Stephens > because he lived close by. If I get chance I will have a walk around the > graveyard, maybe I will see the rest of the family! > > Ian > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Doug Crompton" <DCrompton@atex.com> > To: <crompton@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2009 3:52 PM > Subject: Re: [CROMPTON] Thomas > > >> Derek >> Also, are you SURE that Jame's age is listed as 12 in the 1861 Census? >> It >> doesn't fit. 17 would fit! >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: crompton-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:crompton-bounces@rootsweb.com] >> On Behalf Of Dellcrom@aol.com >> Sent: Sunday, 7 June 2009 8:34 pm >> To: crompton@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [CROMPTON] Thomas >> >> >> Well, spotted Ian it is James my mistake. >> Should have been............ >> >> 1861census RG09/ 2836_012 page 17 >> 091: Maze Street, Darcy Lever. >> head; >> Thomas CROMPTON widower aged 63 coal banksman >> children; >> Alice (U20) cotton weaver >> James (U12) scholar >> >> border ; >> Elizabeth NUTTALL(U16) cotton weaver >> >> all born Darcy Lever, >> >> my only excuse is I was also looking at this family........... >> 1861census RG09/ 2836_007 page 08/9 >> 046: Top o'th Slakes, Darcy Lever, >> head; >> John What is the surname ? >> Betty >> children; >> two of the four are C., >> [something] father; >> John C.,(73) widower joiner born Brightmet, >> So was Betty a naughty girl or a re married widow? >> >> >> Derek Crompton >> London south-east >> no attachments to this e=mail >> //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// >> /////////////////////////////////////. >> >> ------------------------------------- >> List mail will show up in PLAIN TEXT only. >> ------------------------------------- >> This list is for the CROMPTON surname family history and gossip. >> ------------------------------------- >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cromptoninfo/ >> ================ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> CROMPTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ------------------------------------- >> List mail will show up in PLAIN TEXT only. >> ------------------------------------- >> This list is for the CROMPTON surname family history and gossip. >> ------------------------------------- >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cromptoninfo/ >> ================ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> CROMPTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------------- > List mail will show up in PLAIN TEXT only. > ------------------------------------- > This list is for the CROMPTON surname family history and gossip. > ------------------------------------- > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cromptoninfo/ > ================ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CROMPTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------------- > List mail will show up in PLAIN TEXT only. > ------------------------------------- > This list is for the CROMPTON surname family history and gossip. > ------------------------------------- > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cromptoninfo/ > ================ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CROMPTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------------- List mail will show up in PLAIN TEXT only. ------------------------------------- This list is for the CROMPTON surname family history and gossip. ------------------------------------- http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cromptoninfo/ ================ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CROMPTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Doug Sorry mate, cant find them yet. I did see james listed on the General Hewitt age 23, so that makes him born about 1825, a couple of years younger than Mary.born 1823. Ian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Crompton" <DCrompton@atex.com> To: <crompton@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 1:59 AM Subject: Re: [CROMPTON] Thomas > Ian - are you up for a spot of detective work? > > Let me tell you about my Cromptons. > > My GGGF was a James Crompton, born Bolton around 1821. He married Mary > Dickinson at St Peters on 16th July 1843. They had several children, > starting with a James in May 1844, but they kept dying! I believe there > were a couple more, but I haven't obtained the certificates to confirm > this. He had a daughter Betsy on 27 June 1846. James became a "Bounty > Immigrant" to Botany Bay, leaving Plymouth on 12th August 1848 on the > "General Hewett", with his wife 4 months pregnant at the time, and little > Betsy barely 2 years old. Mary gave birth on 26 January 1849 to a son, > whom she again called James. Daughter Betsy subsequently died, on 4 April > 1849. Meanwhile, James senior was busy establishing himself in the > colony, and he eventually called for Mary to follow him. She and James > left Liverpool for Botany Bay on 21st April 1855 on the "Exodus". > > So, where were Mary and baby James, 2 years old, at the time of the 1851 > Census of the UK? They are known to have lived off-and-on at "Spring > Gardens" Bolton. But I can't find them in the 1851 Census! Can you? > > Strange tho it may be that Mary would leave baby James behind, I figured > that she may have been off working on Census day, leaving baby James with > a relative! Hence my interest in Thomas & family! That James, 1 year > old, marked as a "Nephew", is the only likely James that I could find. > > Your thoughts? > > -----Original Message----- > From: crompton-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:crompton-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of IAN STONE > Sent: Monday, 8 June 2009 2:31 am > To: crompton@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [CROMPTON] Thomas > > Doug > > James is 12 in 1861, this should be right as he is 1 in 1851, 21 in 1871 > and > 30 in 1881. > Thomas was in the 1871 census but not 1881, and seeing him as infirm I > think > he may well have passed away. The only Thomas who died in the 1880's in > Bolton born in 1899 was in 1876. I think he may be buried in St.Stephens > because he lived close by. If I get chance I will have a walk around the > graveyard, maybe I will see the rest of the family! > > Ian > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Doug Crompton" <DCrompton@atex.com> > To: <crompton@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2009 3:52 PM > Subject: Re: [CROMPTON] Thomas > > >> Derek >> Also, are you SURE that Jame's age is listed as 12 in the 1861 Census? >> It >> doesn't fit. 17 would fit! >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: crompton-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:crompton-bounces@rootsweb.com] >> On Behalf Of Dellcrom@aol.com >> Sent: Sunday, 7 June 2009 8:34 pm >> To: crompton@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [CROMPTON] Thomas >> >> >> Well, spotted Ian it is James my mistake. >> Should have been............ >> >> 1861census RG09/ 2836_012 page 17 >> 091: Maze Street, Darcy Lever. >> head; >> Thomas CROMPTON widower aged 63 coal banksman >> children; >> Alice (U20) cotton weaver >> James (U12) scholar >> >> border ; >> Elizabeth NUTTALL(U16) cotton weaver >> >> all born Darcy Lever, >> >> my only excuse is I was also looking at this family........... >> 1861census RG09/ 2836_007 page 08/9 >> 046: Top o'th Slakes, Darcy Lever, >> head; >> John What is the surname ? >> Betty >> children; >> two of the four are C., >> [something] father; >> John C.,(73) widower joiner born Brightmet, >> So was Betty a naughty girl or a re married widow? >> >> >> Derek Crompton >> London south-east >> no attachments to this e=mail >> //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// >> /////////////////////////////////////. >> >> ------------------------------------- >> List mail will show up in PLAIN TEXT only. >> ------------------------------------- >> This list is for the CROMPTON surname family history and gossip. >> ------------------------------------- >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cromptoninfo/ >> ================ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> CROMPTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ------------------------------------- >> List mail will show up in PLAIN TEXT only. >> ------------------------------------- >> This list is for the CROMPTON surname family history and gossip. >> ------------------------------------- >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cromptoninfo/ >> ================ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> CROMPTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------------- > List mail will show up in PLAIN TEXT only. > ------------------------------------- > This list is for the CROMPTON surname family history and gossip. > ------------------------------------- > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cromptoninfo/ > ================ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CROMPTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------------- > List mail will show up in PLAIN TEXT only. > ------------------------------------- > This list is for the CROMPTON surname family history and gossip. > ------------------------------------- > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cromptoninfo/ > ================ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CROMPTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Doug and fellow listers, Does anyone know anything about an Ann CROMPTON who was born in Spain in 1844? In the 1851 census she is at Dinting Vale, Dinting with Josiah BARLEW and family, age 7, and is listed as 'niece'. >From then on until 1901 census she is at Dinting/Dinting Lane, Glossop. My interest is in finding out if she is indeed the daughter of Richard CROMPTON (b. 1819 Glossop and d. 1848 Hayfield) and Mary CASTLE, b. 1817 Glossop. If she is then I would like to know what they were doing in Spain and if she is not then I have to start again. She is with Mary CROMPTON (CASTLE) in most of the censuses and Mary is living with Ann and husband James LEE in, Dinting in the 1891census. How on earth did she become to be born in Spain? Hope someone can throw some light on this wee problem, Carole Noden -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 6 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 50865 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message

Ian - are you up for a spot of detective work? Let me tell you about my Cromptons. My GGGF was a James Crompton, born Bolton around 1821. He married Mary Dickinson at St Peters on 16th July 1843. They had several children, starting with a James in May 1844, but they kept dying! I believe there were a couple more, but I haven't obtained the certificates to confirm this. He had a daughter Betsy on 27 June 1846. James became a "Bounty Immigrant" to Botany Bay, leaving Plymouth on 12th August 1848 on the "General Hewett", with his wife 4 months pregnant at the time, and little Betsy barely 2 years old. Mary gave birth on 26 January 1849 to a son, whom she again called James. Daughter Betsy subsequently died, on 4 April 1849. Meanwhile, James senior was busy establishing himself in the colony, and he eventually called for Mary to follow him. She and James left Liverpool for Botany Bay on 21st April 1855 on the "Exodus". So, where were Mary and baby James, 2 years old, at the time of the 1851 Census of the UK? They are known to have lived off-and-on at "Spring Gardens" Bolton. But I can't find them in the 1851 Census! Can you? Strange tho it may be that Mary would leave baby James behind, I figured that she may have been off working on Census day, leaving baby James with a relative! Hence my interest in Thomas & family! That James, 1 year old, marked as a "Nephew", is the only likely James that I could find. Your thoughts? -----Original Message----- From: crompton-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:crompton-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of IAN STONE Sent: Monday, 8 June 2009 2:31 am To: crompton@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CROMPTON] Thomas Doug James is 12 in 1861, this should be right as he is 1 in 1851, 21 in 1871 and 30 in 1881. Thomas was in the 1871 census but not 1881, and seeing him as infirm I think he may well have passed away. The only Thomas who died in the 1880's in Bolton born in 1899 was in 1876. I think he may be buried in St.Stephens because he lived close by. If I get chance I will have a walk around the graveyard, maybe I will see the rest of the family! Ian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Crompton" <DCrompton@atex.com> To: <crompton@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2009 3:52 PM Subject: Re: [CROMPTON] Thomas > Derek > Also, are you SURE that Jame's age is listed as 12 in the 1861 Census? It > doesn't fit. 17 would fit! > > -----Original Message----- > From: crompton-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:crompton-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Dellcrom@aol.com > Sent: Sunday, 7 June 2009 8:34 pm > To: crompton@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [CROMPTON] Thomas > > > Well, spotted Ian it is James my mistake. > Should have been............ > > 1861census RG09/ 2836_012 page 17 > 091: Maze Street, Darcy Lever. > head; > Thomas CROMPTON widower aged 63 coal banksman > children; > Alice (U20) cotton weaver > James (U12) scholar > > border ; > Elizabeth NUTTALL(U16) cotton weaver > > all born Darcy Lever, > > my only excuse is I was also looking at this family........... > 1861census RG09/ 2836_007 page 08/9 > 046: Top o'th Slakes, Darcy Lever, > head; > John What is the surname ? > Betty > children; > two of the four are C., > [something] father; > John C.,(73) widower joiner born Brightmet, > So was Betty a naughty girl or a re married widow? > > > Derek Crompton > London south-east > no attachments to this e=mail > //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// > /////////////////////////////////////. > > ------------------------------------- > List mail will show up in PLAIN TEXT only. > ------------------------------------- > This list is for the CROMPTON surname family history and gossip. > ------------------------------------- > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cromptoninfo/ > ================ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CROMPTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------------- > List mail will show up in PLAIN TEXT only. > ------------------------------------- > This list is for the CROMPTON surname family history and gossip. > ------------------------------------- > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cromptoninfo/ > ================ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CROMPTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------------- List mail will show up in PLAIN TEXT only. ------------------------------------- This list is for the CROMPTON surname family history and gossip. ------------------------------------- http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cromptoninfo/ ================ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CROMPTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message