Dragi gospodin Birkholtz, gospodja = mrs kralj = king s"umar = woodsman I've seen the term kralj pesnika = king of poets but king of woodsmen....... ? Is there now a need to explain gospodin? (gospodeen) Bog, Robert ----- Original Message ----- From: "=James Birkholz=" <j.birchwood@verizon.net> To: <CROATIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 24, 2002 11:23 PM Subject: [CROATIA-L] gospodin/gopoja > I've encountered a few birth records where "g." is placed before both > parent's names, usually parents from a different town or with > foreign-sounding names. I finally found an entry with what must be the > whole words that are being abbreviated in the other entries. Can anyone > tell me what "gospodin" (with the father's name) and "gopoja" (with the > mother's name) mean? > > Further, in the non-abbreviated entry, "kralj S~umar" follows the father's > name. What does this mean? > > TIA, > James >