Robert, i wonder if these DOMJANCIC 's you found could possibly be related to my cousins. I was unable to find the ones I know at Ellis and if it were spelt differently perhaps I'd have better success. Perhaps those phone book listings are of my cousins'4th or 5th cousins? Thanks for the explaination about the Argentine economy. I did wonder why the different relatives reported there had chosen that spot. Appreciated your taking the time to respond, Ashley >DOMJANCIC is not found in Croatia on line phone books however it most likely >be pronounced domyanchich (assuming diacritical mark over both C, C never >has s sound, C with no diacritical sounds like ts as in cats) There is a >close sp. DOMJANCIC, with no phone listing in Gorski Kotar nor Lika but 6 in >Draganic in neighboring Karlovacka county. Also all but one DOMJANCIC found >in Ellis Island records are from Draganic. There is one from Jana, which I >could not find but may be Janja Gora near Slunj. > >Also I found none of these surnames listed in Argentina online phone books. >However it was somewhat common for Croatians to immigrate to Argentina, as >prior to 1920s-30s Argentina had one of the best economic situations in the >world! Just goes to show us what government meddling can do! I have >several cousins in Buenos Aires, whose family arr. around 1905. > >http://www.teldir.com/real/frame.asp?page=http://www.paginas-doradas.com.ar/ >PDPortal/guia_telefonica/guia_telefonica.asp > >Robert Jerin >Croatian Heritage Museum >Cleveland, Ohio > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Ashley Tiwara" <grubisic@netwurx.net> >To: <CROATIA-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2002 5:33 AM >Subject: [CROATIA-L] Dumencic like Domyancic? > > >> Davor and Rosana Dumencic, and anyone with similar names, >> I have cousins who are DOMYANCIC's and the name is so similar >> to yours I thought I should write. The family is from Gorski Kotar, >> which I think includes Lika, since it's near Fuzine, but they might >> be more from Fuzine than Lika. I'm not sure of that, since I don't >> have any of the original papers, only what I have found since they >> first came to the United States. There is a story among my older >> cousins about relatives in South America though. I'm not sure what >> names they might remember since the aunt with the best memory and who >> has the best storytelling ability will not share information with me >> about the family history. >> She keeps saying 'It's private,' and unfortunately the >> information she has is going to disappear, as she is in her 80's. >> And of course no one in the family ever writes anything down, except >> for me, eagerly asking questions and so annoying the It's Private >> types. >> However, these cousins are from at least the Fuzine area, >> which is adjacent to Lica, and one of them is named Anton and i >> wonder if he could be your Anton. He would have been born about >> 1880, since the others were mostly born in the latter 80's and he was > > the oldest boy. > > By the way, the name in Croatian was spelt DOMIJANCIC and > > pronounced Dom-yahn-sich, which has led to several different >> spellings in the USA, and also to a change of name to DOMINIC for >> some Illinois cousins. >> Some other names I've recorded in association with the >> Domyancic's include >> VIDAS, >> GRENKO, >> SUBAT, >> TOMPTICH, and >> TODAY, which I took to be an Americanization of TADEJ. >> Much older generations included BUYAN or BUJAN and FRANCISKO >> or FRANCISKOVIC, also from Fuzine or that area. >> >> Please do write me if any of these names cross your line or >> if you think this Anton could be yours. The GRENKO and TADEJ names >> are numerous in that area and are probably all related somewhere but >> there are a lot of strands on those trees and I have only a little >> part of them. It would be most pleasant though to get another link >> in the network and you and your family may be that link. >> >> Hoping to hear more, >> Ashley >> >> >> >Hello,we are looking for our ancestors, coming from Lika, Croatia, > > >immigrated to Argentina either before or during the first or second >> >world war, their names are Anton, Josip and another whose name we >> >don't know Dumencic.Thank you for any information possible, Davor >> >and Rosana Dumencic >> >> >> -- >> --

No problem, since I have cousins in Argentina I know a bit about the history of that immigration. Robert ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ashley Tiwara" <grubisic@netwurx.net> To: <CROATIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 6:40 PM Subject: [CROATIA-L] Dumencic / Domyancic in Argentina > Robert, > i wonder if these DOMJANCIC 's you found could possibly be > related to my cousins. I was unable to find the ones I know at Ellis > and if it were spelt differently perhaps I'd have better success. > Perhaps those phone book listings are of my cousins'4th or 5th > cousins? > Thanks for the explaination about the Argentine economy. I > did wonder why the different relatives reported there had chosen that > spot. > > Appreciated your taking the time to respond, > Ashley > > >DOMJANCIC is not found in Croatia on line phone books however it most likely > >be pronounced domyanchich (assuming diacritical mark over both C, C never > >has s sound, C with no diacritical sounds like ts as in cats) There is a > >close sp. DOMJANCIC, with no phone listing in Gorski Kotar nor Lika but 6 in > >Draganic in neighboring Karlovacka county. Also all but one DOMJANCIC found > >in Ellis Island records are from Draganic. There is one from Jana, which I > >could not find but may be Janja Gora near Slunj. > > > >Also I found none of these surnames listed in Argentina online phone books. > >However it was somewhat common for Croatians to immigrate to Argentina, as > >prior to 1920s-30s Argentina had one of the best economic situations in the > >world! Just goes to show us what government meddling can do! I have > >several cousins in Buenos Aires, whose family arr. around 1905. > > > >http://www.teldir.com/real/frame.asp?page=http://www.paginas-doradas.com.ar / > >PDPortal/guia_telefonica/guia_telefonica.asp > > > >Robert Jerin > >Croatian Heritage Museum > >Cleveland, Ohio > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Ashley Tiwara" <grubisic@netwurx.net> > >To: <CROATIA-L@rootsweb.com> > >Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2002 5:33 AM > >Subject: [CROATIA-L] Dumencic like Domyancic? > > > > > >> Davor and Rosana Dumencic, and anyone with similar names, > >> I have cousins who are DOMYANCIC's and the name is so similar > >> to yours I thought I should write. The family is from Gorski Kotar, > >> which I think includes Lika, since it's near Fuzine, but they might > >> be more from Fuzine than Lika. I'm not sure of that, since I don't > >> have any of the original papers, only what I have found since they > >> first came to the United States. There is a story among my older > >> cousins about relatives in South America though. I'm not sure what > >> names they might remember since the aunt with the best memory and who > >> has the best storytelling ability will not share information with me > >> about the family history. > >> She keeps saying 'It's private,' and unfortunately the > >> information she has is going to disappear, as she is in her 80's. > >> And of course no one in the family ever writes anything down, except > >> for me, eagerly asking questions and so annoying the It's Private > >> types. > >> However, these cousins are from at least the Fuzine area, > >> which is adjacent to Lica, and one of them is named Anton and i > >> wonder if he could be your Anton. He would have been born about > >> 1880, since the others were mostly born in the latter 80's and he was > > > the oldest boy. > > > By the way, the name in Croatian was spelt DOMIJANCIC and > > > pronounced Dom-yahn-sich, which has led to several different > >> spellings in the USA, and also to a change of name to DOMINIC for > >> some Illinois cousins. > >> Some other names I've recorded in association with the > >> Domyancic's include > >> VIDAS, > >> GRENKO, > >> SUBAT, > >> TOMPTICH, and > >> TODAY, which I took to be an Americanization of TADEJ. > >> Much older generations included BUYAN or BUJAN and FRANCISKO > >> or FRANCISKOVIC, also from Fuzine or that area. > >> > >> Please do write me if any of these names cross your line or > >> if you think this Anton could be yours. The GRENKO and TADEJ names > >> are numerous in that area and are probably all related somewhere but > >> there are a lot of strands on those trees and I have only a little > >> part of them. It would be most pleasant though to get another link > >> in the network and you and your family may be that link. > >> > >> Hoping to hear more, > >> Ashley > >> > >> > >> >Hello,we are looking for our ancestors, coming from Lika, Croatia, > > > >immigrated to Argentina either before or during the first or second > >> >world war, their names are Anton, Josip and another whose name we > >> >don't know Dumencic.Thank you for any information possible, Davor > >> >and Rosana Dumencic > >> > >> > >> -- > >> > > > -- >