Toni Olson wrote: > > I have a paper I believe to be my grandmothers birth certificate Her name was VICE SULE > at the top of the page it reads: > > FEDERATIVNA NARODNA REPUBLIKA JUGOSLAVIJA NARODNA REPUBLIKA HRVATSKA > > Kotar : Split > Narodni odbor Opoine Solta > Ocevid.(c has a v over it) broj: 114/ 1953 > Izvod iz matacne knjige rodenih > > Would appreciate a translation if anyone out there can help me. Someone in the family thought that she was French However as far as I knew from my parents she was 100% Croatian. > > On my grandfathers passenger record off the Ellis Island site he lists place of residence as : Rujani,Austria Would this be one of those tows where different countries claimed it as theirs? His name on passenger record: ANTE BRDARA > his name in US: ANTON BRDAR > tHANKS FOR ANY HELP YOU CAN GIVE > Toni I wrote 24 Jan 2002. Otok (island) Solta is located in the Splitsko region of Dalmacija, Croatia. http://www.dalmacija.net/solta.htm Croatian telephone directory lists 40 surname Brdar bearers under the Split area. Directory also lists 49 surname Sule under Split (C) Spalato (I) People who are from Solta or had a chance to visit the island. http://capita.wustl.edu/solta/People/SoltaPeople.html When researching surname Sule in the U.S. it can be of other ethnicity besides Croatian. Linguistics. This usually occurs when a Slavic name ends in a vowel. Also wonder because the surname Sule does appear in Italy. Austria and Italy traded rule of parts of the Dalmatian coast for over 450 years. Did surnames say Kako ste ? (C) Come sta ? (I) Comment allez-vous (F) Surname Sule does sound French (Soolay) Federativna Narodna Republika Jugoslavija Narodna Republika Hrvatska Federal National Repbublic Yugoslavia National Republic Croatia kotar Split district narodni odbor people committee opc'ine Solta municipality Slota certificate from birth registry book In 1945 Yugoslavia became the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia. In Slavic languages the letter j is pron. y . Jugoslavija = Yugoslavia The six republics that formed the former Yugoslavia were : Bosnia and Herzegovina, Croatia, Macedonia, Montenegro, Slovenia, and Serbia. Ante Brdara emigrated through Ellis Island in 1913. only 1 surname Brdara is listed in EIR However, 65 surname Brdar emigrated through Ellis Island 1892-1924. Over 250 + surname Brdar are living just in U.S. So his surname was misspelled in the ship manifest Yes. But, only text copy lists place of residence as Rujani Image copy lists his birthplace as perhaps Rujand ? In fact, first 7 emigrants on page were all born in Austria Rujan. He was number 2 in manifest and all 7 were listed as being Bosnian. Believe Rujan is located 2 miles from Broc'anac, Bosnia & Herzegovina. Rujan is located 48 miles distant from Split (C) Spalato (I) and 55 miles distant from Sarajevo, B & H. War I began in 1914 after the Austrian Archduke Ferdinand, heir to the Hapsburg throne, was assassinated at Sarajevo. Think Ante was going to an address in Chicago, IL

Frank That was a wonderful email you sent. Thank You and Thank You for the info on Sule. Is it possible to email the people at the website you gave me? I tried and all emails were returned to me . When I tried to register it would not bring the page up. Could you explain how their towns cities are done? I do not understand Isand of Solta Split Grohote are these all towns in Croatia? I noticed that one of the persons on the list had the same last name as my great grandmother BURICA. I also noticed that there was a gentleman willing to help with info in the area of Solta Zelijko M BURSAC. Is there any reading you would recommend I do to get a better feel for the people of Solta? I can tell they are a very warm hospitable people Sincerely Toni ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Kurchina" <frankur@worldnet.att.net> To: <CROATIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 10:51 PM Subject: Re: [CROATIA-L] Can you identify? > > > Toni Olson wrote: > > > > I have a paper I believe to be my grandmothers birth certificate Her name was VICE SULE > > at the top of the page it reads: > > > > FEDERATIVNA NARODNA REPUBLIKA JUGOSLAVIJA NARODNA REPUBLIKA HRVATSKA > > > > Kotar : Split > > Narodni odbor Opoine Solta > > Ocevid.(c has a v over it) broj: 114/ 1953 > > Izvod iz matacne knjige rodenih > > > > Would appreciate a translation if anyone out there can help me. Someone in the family thought that she was French However as far as I knew from my parents she was 100% Croatian. > > > > On my grandfathers passenger record off the Ellis Island site he lists place of residence as : Rujani,Austria Would this be one of those tows where different countries claimed it as theirs? His name on passenger record: ANTE BRDARA > > his name in US: ANTON BRDAR > > tHANKS FOR ANY HELP YOU CAN GIVE > > Toni > > I wrote 24 Jan 2002. > > Otok (island) Solta is located in the Splitsko region of Dalmacija, > Croatia. > > http://www.dalmacija.net/solta.htm > > > Croatian telephone directory lists 40 surname Brdar bearers under the > Split area. > Directory also lists 49 surname Sule under Split (C) Spalato (I) > > > People who are from Solta or had a chance to visit the island. > > http://capita.wustl.edu/solta/People/SoltaPeople.html > > > When researching surname Sule in the U.S. it can be of other > ethnicity besides Croatian. > Linguistics. > This usually occurs when a Slavic name ends in a vowel. > Also wonder because the surname Sule does appear in Italy. > > Austria and Italy traded rule of parts of the Dalmatian coast > for over 450 years. > > Did surnames say > > Kako ste ? (C) > > Come sta ? (I) > > Comment allez-vous (F) > > Surname Sule does sound French (Soolay) > > Federativna Narodna Republika Jugoslavija Narodna Republika Hrvatska > Federal National Repbublic Yugoslavia National Republic Croatia > kotar Split > district > narodni odbor > people committee > opc'ine Solta > municipality Slota > > certificate from birth registry book > > In 1945 Yugoslavia became the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia. > In Slavic languages the letter j is pron. y . > Jugoslavija = Yugoslavia > The six republics that formed the former Yugoslavia were : Bosnia > and Herzegovina, Croatia, Macedonia, Montenegro, Slovenia, and Serbia. > > Ante Brdara emigrated through Ellis Island in 1913. > only 1 surname Brdara is listed in EIR > However, 65 surname Brdar emigrated through Ellis Island 1892-1924. > Over 250 + surname Brdar are living just in U.S. > So his surname was misspelled in the ship manifest > > Yes. > But, only text copy lists place of residence as Rujani > Image copy lists his birthplace as perhaps Rujand ? > In fact, first 7 emigrants on page were all born in Austria Rujan. > He was number 2 in manifest and all 7 were listed as being Bosnian. > Believe Rujan is located 2 miles from Broc'anac, Bosnia & Herzegovina. > Rujan is located 48 miles distant from Split (C) Spalato (I) and > 55 miles distant from Sarajevo, B & H. > War I began in 1914 after the Austrian Archduke Ferdinand, heir to the > Hapsburg throne, was assassinated at Sarajevo. > > Think Ante was going to an address in Chicago, IL >