I have heard of Croatians referred to as Bull-hunks, etc. Dave On Mon, 20 May 2002 13:59:36 -0400 "Robert Jerin" <rjerin@adelphia.net> writes: > Basically anyplace that labor was needed these Croatian who came > prior to WW > I found work. Of course the American Folk Hero Joe Magarac was no > doubt > patterned after these immigrants. Magarac is of course the Croatian > word > for donkey or jackass. ja si ti magarac thus is not a derogatory > question > to ask a Croatian, as these people were as strong as a magarac! > > http://www.whsd.k12.pa.us/ri/gifted/rankin/ethnicityfolkheroes.htm > > Robert Jerin > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Nicholas Haramija" <nharamija@comcast.net> > To: <CROATIA-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 1:31 PM > Subject: Re: [CROATIA-L] Pittsburg and St. Louis industries? > > > > James; "Westinghouse Electric" was and is a large employer in that > area. > > Plant extends from East Pittsburgh, Turtle Creek Wilmerding, > Pitcairn and > > Trafford all along Turtle Creek. My dad worked there from the 30's > to the > > 50's. Steel mills were located in Braddock, Duquesne and > Pittsburgh along > > the Monongahela River, most if not all are gone. > > The Rand McNally Pittsburgh Metro City Map will show how close > everything > is > > in that area. > > Hope that helps. Nick > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Birkholz, James" <James.Birkholz@usa.okmetic.com> > > To: <CROATIA-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 11:30 AM > > Subject: [CROATIA-L] Pittsburg and St. Louis industries? > > > > > > > Many of the Ellis Island immigrants whose name we are > researching, all > > from > > > the Lokve, Ravna Gora area, immigrated to McKeesport, PA (and Mc > Kees > > Rocks, > > > Ambridge and Pittsburg itself) as well as St. Louis and the east > St. > Louis > > > area in Illinois. > > > > > > Does anyone have specific knowledge of the probable > industry/employer > for > > > these locations? I presume the Pittsburg area would be steel > mills. > > > > > > > > >

dave9759@juno.com wrote: > > I have heard of Croatians referred to as Bull-hunks, etc. > Dave When my paternal GPs had emigrated to U.S. my GF spoke 5 languages. He used Hungarian to keep 'secrets' and cursed in German. As eldest grandchild I knew no English when I began grammar school in the U.S. English was my third language. My fellow classmates called me a Boh-Hung because I didn't understand English. Boh-Hung = Bohemian-Hungarian and was a derogatory term applied to many ethnicities. My younger siblings knew only English and so escaped these taunts. However, by the time my classmates began reading American fairy tales I was reading tales about Greek mythology. > On Mon, 20 May 2002 13:59:36 -0400 "Robert Jerin" <rjerin@adelphia.net> > writes: > > Basically anyplace that labor was needed these Croatian who came > > prior to WW > > I found work. Of course the American Folk Hero Joe Magarac was no > > doubt > > patterned after these immigrants. Magarac is of course the Croatian > > word > > for donkey or jackass. ja si ti magarac thus is not a derogatory > > question > > to ask a Croatian, as these people were as strong as a magarac! > > > > http://www.whsd.k12.pa.us/ri/gifted/rankin/ethnicityfolkheroes.htm > > > > Robert Jerin > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Nicholas Haramija" <nharamija@comcast.net> > > To: <CROATIA-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 1:31 PM > > Subject: Re: [CROATIA-L] Pittsburg and St. Louis industries? > > > > > > > James; "Westinghouse Electric" was and is a large employer in that > > area. > > > Plant extends from East Pittsburgh, Turtle Creek Wilmerding, > > Pitcairn and > > > Trafford all along Turtle Creek. My dad worked there from the 30's > > to the > > > 50's. Steel mills were located in Braddock, Duquesne and > > Pittsburgh along > > > the Monongahela River, most if not all are gone. > > > The Rand McNally Pittsburgh Metro City Map will show how close > > everything > > is > > > in that area. > > > Hope that helps. Nick > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Birkholz, James" <James.Birkholz@usa.okmetic.com> > > > To: <CROATIA-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 11:30 AM > > > Subject: [CROATIA-L] Pittsburg and St. Louis industries? > > > > > > > > > > Many of the Ellis Island immigrants whose name we are > > researching, all > > > from > > > > the Lokve, Ravna Gora area, immigrated to McKeesport, PA (and Mc > > Kees > > > Rocks, > > > > Ambridge and Pittsburg itself) as well as St. Louis and the east > > St. > > Louis > > > > area in Illinois. > > > > > > > > Does anyone have specific knowledge of the probable > > industry/employer > > for > > > > these locations? I presume the Pittsburg area would be steel > > mills. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

I believe the term is Bo-Hunks, which is a general term used for immigrants from the old Austro-Hungarian Empire and may be a contraction of Bohemian and Hungarian. It along with Hunky and DP were generally derogatory terms however some of the immigrants or children of those immigrants used the term among themselves in regards to one another. Not unlike the N word in the black community today. Robert ----- Original Message ----- From: <dave9759@juno.com> To: <CROATIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 5:33 PM Subject: Re: [CROATIA-L] Pittsburg and St. Louis industries? > I have heard of Croatians referred to as Bull-hunks, etc. > Dave > On Mon, 20 May 2002 13:59:36 -0400 "Robert Jerin" <rjerin@adelphia.net> > writes: > > Basically anyplace that labor was needed these Croatian who came > > prior to WW > > I found work. Of course the American Folk Hero Joe Magarac was no > > doubt > > patterned after these immigrants. Magarac is of course the Croatian > > word > > for donkey or jackass. ja si ti magarac thus is not a derogatory > > question > > to ask a Croatian, as these people were as strong as a magarac! > > > > http://www.whsd.k12.pa.us/ri/gifted/rankin/ethnicityfolkheroes.htm > > > > Robert Jerin > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Nicholas Haramija" <nharamija@comcast.net> > > To: <CROATIA-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 1:31 PM > > Subject: Re: [CROATIA-L] Pittsburg and St. Louis industries? > > > > > > > James; "Westinghouse Electric" was and is a large employer in that > > area. > > > Plant extends from East Pittsburgh, Turtle Creek Wilmerding, > > Pitcairn and > > > Trafford all along Turtle Creek. My dad worked there from the 30's > > to the > > > 50's. Steel mills were located in Braddock, Duquesne and > > Pittsburgh along > > > the Monongahela River, most if not all are gone. > > > The Rand McNally Pittsburgh Metro City Map will show how close > > everything > > is > > > in that area. > > > Hope that helps. Nick > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Birkholz, James" <James.Birkholz@usa.okmetic.com> > > > To: <CROATIA-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 11:30 AM > > > Subject: [CROATIA-L] Pittsburg and St. Louis industries? > > > > > > > > > > Many of the Ellis Island immigrants whose name we are > > researching, all > > > from > > > > the Lokve, Ravna Gora area, immigrated to McKeesport, PA (and Mc > > Kees > > > Rocks, > > > > Ambridge and Pittsburg itself) as well as St. Louis and the east > > St. > > Louis > > > > area in Illinois. > > > > > > > > Does anyone have specific knowledge of the probable > > industry/employer > > for > > > > these locations? I presume the Pittsburg area would be steel > > mills. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

In California, the common term for both Croats and Serbs was 'Slavonian'. A local term in the Santa Clara Valley was 'Jebentibogas'. I'll let Robert or Frank translate that if they are up to it. <grin> D. >I have heard of Croatians referred to as Bull-hunks, etc. >Dave > > >______________________________ --