Ms merna j robison wrote: > > My Grandmother Rosalia Popovic[Rose Popovich] and her > daughter Theresa left Spisic Bukovici, Croatia by > train to Riejeka/Fiume in )October 1905 , yet the > Ships Manifest says the SS Cassel sailing from Bremen > Sept ? 1905 arrived at port of Baltimore Oct 3,1905. > The index card said she was going to Osaka VA to meet > her husband Stefan Popovics. His Baptism Certificate > said his name was Stephanus Popovic' born in > Virovitica,Croatia August 23, 1870.My grandfather came > to America before she did. I went back to > Ellisisland.org yesterday and searched for that > spelling of my grandfathers name and found one Stefan > Popovics , Ethnicity : Hungarian,Ruthan ;Place of > residence: Otvosfalu ,Date of arrival:August > 05,1902,Age on arrival 32y;Gender M ; Marital > Status:M,Ship of Travel:Friedland;Port of > Departure:Antwerp, Belgium. The age is right, but > could not see the whole manifest, just the text. It > was page 0234,line 0023. I could not find that place > of residence on any of the recommended map pages and > do not know if this would be my grandfather or not. > I don't think so. S^pis^ic'-Bukovica was located in Virovitica z^upanija (county), Croatia where Virovitica (town) is also located. Since surname was probably spelled Popovic' (Popovich) Popovics would be the Hungarian spelling. Ötvösfalva (H) was formerly located in Máramos megye (county), Hungary and is now located in the Ukraine. -falva, -falu means 'village' in Magyar while Ötvös means 'goldsmith'. It would have been located in Subcarpathian Rus' rather than in Croatia. Ruthan probably means Ruthene ethnicity. Hungarian/Ruthene would fit for this region. What religion was your GF ? CASSEL SS Cassel. Built in 1901 by Tecklenborg for Norddeutscher Lloyd. 7,543 tons; 428 feet long x 54 feet broad; 1 funnel, 2 masts; twin screw propulsion, service speed 13 knots. Interchangeable between the various Norddeutscher Lloyd service routes, but mostly in the Bremen- Baltimore service. 1919 handed over to France as war reparations, and renamed "Marechal Gallieni" [Noel Reginald Pixell Bonsor, North Atlantic Seaway; An Illustrated History of the Passenger Services Linking the Old World with the New (Prescott, Lancashire: T. Stephenson & Sons., 1955), p. 188]..[Posted to the Emigration-Ships Mailing List by Michael Palmer - 11 June 1997] The "Cassel" was built for North German Lloyd in 1901 by J.C.Tecklenborg, Geestemunde. She was a 7,543gross ton ship, length 428.9ft x beam 54.3ft, one funnel, two masts, twin screw and a speed of 13 knots. There was accommodation for 140-2nd and 1,938-3rd class passengers. Launched on 31/7/1901, she sailed from Bremen on her maiden voyage to New York on 26/10/1901. On 26/6/1902 she commenced her first Bremen - Baltimore voyage and on 17/11/1910 started her first Bremen - Philadelphia - Galveston voyage. She commenced the first of 3 voyages from Bremen to Capetown and Australia on 7/10/1911 and her first Bremen - Boston voyage on 8/10/1913. On 14/5/1914 she started her first voyage from Bremen to New York, Philadelphia and Galveston and in August of that year was laid up in Germany. In 1919 she went to the French company, Messageries Maritimes and was renamed "Marechal Gallieni" and in 1926 was scrapped at La Seyne. [North Atlantic Seaway by N.R.P.Bonsor, vol.2,p.565] [Posted to The ShipsList by Ted Finch - 4 January 1998]

My grandfather was baptised at SV ROKA in Virovitica.On the certificate there is an oval seal or stamp that says URED R. KAT ZUPE SV ROKA U VIROVITICI. There is a column naming his parents: Franciscus ? Popovic'[famulus dominii et]Catharina Pap.The column next to that says 'R.C'.The next column which is still under his parents information ,titled mjesto gdje stanuju i ?.b? says: Horija or Korija? The next column says Ime,prezime vjera i stalis njegovih kumova ; with the names Josephus Somogji et Rozalia ukor ejus? R.C.[Grandparents or God parents?] In the lower right hand corner is the name "? Gabriel Dolinack", uprav zupe. Thank you for your help. --- Frank Kurchina <frankur@worldnet.att.net> wrote: > > > Ms merna j robison wrote: > > > > My Grandmother Rosalia Popovic[Rose Popovich] and > her > > daughter Theresa left Spisic Bukovici, Croatia by > > train to Riejeka/Fiume in )October 1905 , yet the > > Ships Manifest says the SS Cassel sailing from > Bremen > > Sept ? 1905 arrived at port of Baltimore Oct > 3,1905. > > The index card said she was going to Osaka VA to > meet > > her husband Stefan Popovics. His Baptism > Certificate > > said his name was Stephanus Popovic' born in > > Virovitica,Croatia August 23, 1870.My grandfather > came > > to America before she did. I went back to > > Ellisisland.org yesterday and searched for that > > spelling of my grandfathers name and found one > Stefan > > Popovics , Ethnicity : Hungarian,Ruthan ;Place of > > residence: Otvosfalu ,Date of arrival:August > > 05,1902,Age on arrival 32y;Gender M ; Marital > > Status:M,Ship of Travel:Friedland;Port of > > Departure:Antwerp, Belgium. The age is right, but > > could not see the whole manifest, just the text. > It > > was page 0234,line 0023. I could not find that > place > > of residence on any of the recommended map pages > and > > do not know if this would be my grandfather or > not. > > > > I don't think so. > > S^pis^ic'-Bukovica was located in Virovitica > z^upanija (county), > Croatia where > Virovitica (town) is also located. > > Since surname was probably spelled Popovic' > (Popovich) Popovics would be > the Hungarian spelling. > > �tv�sfalva (H) was formerly located in M�ramos megye > (county), Hungary > and is > now located in the Ukraine. > -falva, -falu means 'village' in Magyar while �tv�s > means 'goldsmith'. > It would have been located in Subcarpathian Rus' > rather than in Croatia. > Ruthan probably means Ruthene ethnicity. > Hungarian/Ruthene would fit for this region. > What religion was your GF ? > > CASSEL > > SS Cassel. Built in 1901 by Tecklenborg for > Norddeutscher Lloyd. 7,543 > tons; 428 feet long x 54 feet broad; 1 > funnel, 2 masts; twin screw propulsion, service > speed 13 knots. > Interchangeable between the various > Norddeutscher Lloyd service routes, but mostly in > the Bremen- Baltimore > service. 1919 handed over to France > as war reparations, and renamed "Marechal Gallieni" > [Noel Reginald > Pixell Bonsor, North Atlantic Seaway; An > Illustrated History of the Passenger Services > Linking the Old World with > the New (Prescott, Lancashire: T. > Stephenson & Sons., 1955), p. 188]..[Posted to the > Emigration-Ships > Mailing List by Michael Palmer - 11 June > 1997] > > The "Cassel" was built for North German Lloyd in > 1901 by > J.C.Tecklenborg, Geestemunde. She was a > 7,543gross ton ship, length 428.9ft x beam 54.3ft, > one funnel, two > masts, twin screw and a speed of 13 knots. > There was accommodation for 140-2nd and 1,938-3rd > class passengers. > Launched on 31/7/1901, she sailed from > Bremen on her maiden voyage to New York on > 26/10/1901. On 26/6/1902 she > commenced her first Bremen - > Baltimore voyage and on 17/11/1910 started her first > Bremen - > Philadelphia - Galveston voyage. She commenced > the first of 3 voyages from Bremen to Capetown and > Australia on > 7/10/1911 and her first Bremen - Boston voyage > on 8/10/1913. On 14/5/1914 she started her first > voyage from Bremen to > New York, Philadelphia and Galveston > and in August of that year was laid up in Germany. > In 1919 she went to > the French company, Messageries > Maritimes and was renamed "Marechal Gallieni" and in > 1926 was scrapped > at La Seyne. [North Atlantic Seaway > by N.R.P.Bonsor, vol.2,p.565] [Posted to The > ShipsList by Ted Finch - 4 > January 1998] > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards� http://movies.yahoo.com/

Merna Robison wrote: > > My grandfather was baptised at SV ROKA in > Virovitica.On the certificate there is an oval seal or > stamp that says URED R. KAT ZUPE SV ROKA U VIROVITICI. > There is a column naming his parents: Franciscus ? > Popovic'[famulus dominii et]Catharina Pap.The column > next to that says 'R.C'.The next column which is still > under his parents information ,titled mjesto gdje > stanuju i ?.b? says: Horija or Korija? The next column > says Ime,prezime vjera i stalis njegovih kumova ; with > the names Josephus Somogji et Rozalia ukor ejus? > R.C.[Grandparents or God parents?] In the lower right > hand corner is the name "? Gabriel Dolinack", uprav > zupe. Thank you for your help. Roman Catholic parish office church Saint Roch in Virovitica Franciscus (L) Francis (E) Franjo (C) famulus (L) servant (masc.) domini lord, landlord (masc.) et and mjesto (C) place gdje where stanuju reside, dwell in rodili ? born Korija is located ? miles from Virovitica. ime (C) name prezime surname vjera religion i and stalis njegovih status or occupation their kumovah ? (kum = godfather, kuma = godmother) (praroditelj - GPs) (djed i baka - GF and GM) uxor (L) wife ejus (L) same ? Gabriel Dolinack uprav administrator z^upe parish > --- Frank Kurchina <frankur@worldnet.att.net> wrote: > > > > > > Ms merna j robison wrote: > > > > > > My Grandmother Rosalia Popovic[Rose Popovich] and > > her > > > daughter Theresa left Spisic Bukovici, Croatia by > > > train to Riejeka/Fiume in )October 1905 , yet the > > > Ships Manifest says the SS Cassel sailing from > > Bremen > > > Sept ? 1905 arrived at port of Baltimore Oct > > 3,1905. > > > The index card said she was going to Osaka VA to > > meet > > > her husband Stefan Popovics. His Baptism > > Certificate > > > said his name was Stephanus Popovic' born in > > > Virovitica,Croatia August 23, 1870.My grandfather > > came > > > to America before she did. I went back to > > > Ellisisland.org yesterday and searched for that > > > spelling of my grandfathers name and found one > > Stefan > > > Popovics , Ethnicity : Hungarian,Ruthan ;Place of > > > residence: Otvosfalu ,Date of arrival:August > > > 05,1902,Age on arrival 32y;Gender M ; Marital > > > Status:M,Ship of Travel:Friedland;Port of > > > Departure:Antwerp, Belgium. The age is right, but > > > could not see the whole manifest, just the text. > > It > > > was page 0234,line 0023. I could not find that > > place > > > of residence on any of the recommended map pages > > and > > > do not know if this would be my grandfather or > > not. > > > > > > > I don't think so. > > > > S^pis^ic'-Bukovica was located in Virovitica > > z^upanija (county), > > Croatia where > > Virovitica (town) is also located. > > > > Since surname was probably spelled Popovic' > > (Popovich) Popovics would be > > the Hungarian spelling. > > > > Ötvösfalva (H) was formerly located in Máramos megye > > (county), Hungary > > and is > > now located in the Ukraine. > > -falva, -falu means 'village' in Magyar while Ötvös > > means 'goldsmith'. > > It would have been located in Subcarpathian Rus' > > rather than in Croatia. > > Ruthan probably means Ruthene ethnicity. > > Hungarian/Ruthene would fit for this region. > > What religion was your GF ? > > > > CASSEL > > > > SS Cassel. Built in 1901 by Tecklenborg for > > Norddeutscher Lloyd. 7,543 > > tons; 428 feet long x 54 feet broad; 1 > > funnel, 2 masts; twin screw propulsion, service > > speed 13 knots. > > Interchangeable between the various > > Norddeutscher Lloyd service routes, but mostly in > > the Bremen- Baltimore > > service. 1919 handed over to France > > as war reparations, and renamed "Marechal Gallieni" > > [Noel Reginald > > Pixell Bonsor, North Atlantic Seaway; An > > Illustrated History of the Passenger Services > > Linking the Old World with > > the New (Prescott, Lancashire: T. > > Stephenson & Sons., 1955), p. 188]..[Posted to the > > Emigration-Ships > > Mailing List by Michael Palmer - 11 June > > 1997] > > > > The "Cassel" was built for North German Lloyd in > > 1901 by > > J.C.Tecklenborg, Geestemunde. She was a > > 7,543gross ton ship, length 428.9ft x beam 54.3ft, > > one funnel, two > > masts, twin screw and a speed of 13 knots. > > There was accommodation for 140-2nd and 1,938-3rd > > class passengers. > > Launched on 31/7/1901, she sailed from > > Bremen on her maiden voyage to New York on > > 26/10/1901. On 26/6/1902 she > > commenced her first Bremen - > > Baltimore voyage and on 17/11/1910 started her first > > Bremen - > > Philadelphia - Galveston voyage. She commenced > > the first of 3 voyages from Bremen to Capetown and > > Australia on > > 7/10/1911 and her first Bremen - Boston voyage > > on 8/10/1913. On 14/5/1914 she started her first > > voyage from Bremen to > > New York, Philadelphia and Galveston > > and in August of that year was laid up in Germany. > > In 1919 she went to > > the French company, Messageries > > Maritimes and was renamed "Marechal Gallieni" and in > > 1926 was scrapped > > at La Seyne. [North Atlantic Seaway > > by N.R.P.Bonsor, vol.2,p.565] [Posted to The > > ShipsList by Ted Finch - 4 > > January 1998] > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards® > http://movies.yahoo.com/

Merna Robison wrote: > > My grandfather was baptised at SV ROKA in > Virovitica.On the certificate there is an oval seal or > stamp that says URED R. KAT ZUPE SV ROKA U VIROVITICI. > There is a column naming his parents: Franciscus ? > Popovic'[famulus dominii et]Catharina Pap.The column > next to that says 'R.C'.The next column which is still > under his parents information ,titled mjesto gdje > stanuju i ?.b? says: Horija or Korija? The next column > says Ime,prezime vjera i stalis njegovih kumova ; with > the names Josephus Somogji et Rozalia ukor ejus? > R.C.[Grandparents or God parents?] In the lower right > hand corner is the name "? Gabriel Dolinack", uprav > zupe. Thank you for your help. kumova = godparents (gen. plural) administrator (occupational title) = upravnik uprav = management Croatian telephone directory list 41 surname Popovic' (Popovich) under Virovitica z^upanija (county) Directory also lists 3 surname Pap under the same county.

Thank you for your help and explanations, it is very much appreciated. --- Frank Kurchina <frankur@worldnet.att.net> wrote: > > > Merna Robison wrote: > > > > My grandfather was baptised at SV ROKA in > > Virovitica.On the certificate there is an oval > seal or > > stamp that says URED R. KAT ZUPE SV ROKA U > VIROVITICI. > > There is a column naming his parents: Franciscus ? > > Popovic'[famulus dominii et]Catharina Pap.The > column > > next to that says 'R.C'.The next column which is > still > > under his parents information ,titled mjesto gdje > > stanuju i ?.b? says: Horija or Korija? The next > column > > says Ime,prezime vjera i stalis njegovih kumova ; > with > > the names Josephus Somogji et Rozalia ukor ejus? > > R.C.[Grandparents or God parents?] In the lower > right > > hand corner is the name "? Gabriel Dolinack", > uprav > > zupe. Thank you for your help. > > > kumova = godparents (gen. plural) > > administrator (occupational title) = upravnik > uprav = management > > Croatian telephone directory list 41 surname > Popovic' (Popovich) > under Virovitica z^upanija (county) > Directory also lists 3 surname Pap under the same > county. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards� http://movies.yahoo.com/