I think that I may have finally located my grandfather Ivan Tadej on the 16 Dec. 1892 Ellis Island passenger list on ship Stuttgart from Bremen. His name was translated as Ivan Fadej. The T became an F. The age 20 and going to Illinois was right. Now questions to the experts. It states he is from Bohemia when he was born in Fuzine. Were others from Fuzine sometimes recorded as Bohemia? Is there a second page on the 1892 list - like a list I have from 1899 that gave the amount of cash that the passenger had and the name of person they were joining or who sponsored them? With one phone line and slow connection speed and slow computer it takes me forever - can someone please help? Is this my grandfather? All I have to go on is statement in the Census when he said he immigrated in 1892 at age 20. Thank you for your help. Louise

----- Original Message ----- From: <TodeyL@aol.com> To: <CROATIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 1:31 PM Subject: [CROATIA-L] Tadej on Passenger List > I think that I may have finally located my grandfather Ivan Tadej on the 16 > Dec. 1892 Ellis Island passenger list on ship Stuttgart from Bremen. His name > was translated as Ivan Fadej. The T became an F. The age 20 and going to > Illinois was right. Now questions to the experts. It states he is from > Bohemia when he was born in Fuzine. With so little info on this ship maniest how are you certain that this is Ivan TADEJ! >Were others from Fuzine sometimes > recorded as Bohemia? No. But others on that page do not appear to have Croatian names. But on the next page there appear to be some listed residence as Bohemia who have Croatian names. >Is there a second page on the 1892 list - like a list I No. > have from 1899 that gave the amount of cash that the passenger had and the > name of person they were joining or who sponsored them? You got one of those ship records that was really skinny on info, none of that info is there. It must have been up to the ship line as to what was on the manifest or perhaps different time periods different info was required. > With one phone line and slow connection speed and slow computer it takes me > forever - can someone please help? Perhaps. > Is this my grandfather? No idea! >All I have to go on is statement in the Census when he said he immigrated in 1892 at age 20 Hmm, I would not take that info as absolute too many time immigration and birthdates are off by a few years, perhaps due to memory and perhaps because b'dates did not have the importance then or perhaps they had to become older to gain employment. Here is another possiblilty Ivan TADEI arr 1898 age 15 from Hreljen, not far from Fuzine destination ILL (town not legible) to father Jakub 840 W Huron St. You can try this web page and search for "begins with" and type in just a few letters. http://home.pacbell.net/spmorse/ellis/ellis.html The LDS Church (Mormon) has the following microfilms available to order and rent at a local Family History Center near you. You can find more info about the FHCs in my links list. Also Tom Ninkovich has some excellent info on how to read those church records at the home page of my links list. Title Maticna knjiga, 1725-1916 Authors Rimokatolicka crkva. Zupa Fuzine (Main Author) Note Location Film Rodeni 1725-1778 VAULT INTL Film 1419068 Item 9 Rodeni 1778-1857 -- Vjencani 1815-1856 -- Umrli 1815-1857 VAULT INTL Film 1419069 Items 1 - 6 Rodeni 1858-1889 FHL INTL Film 2084749 Item 2 Umrli 1858-1888 FHL INTL Film 2084749 Item 3 Umrli 1888-1916 VAULT INTL Film 2084750 Item 1 Rodeni = birth Umrli = death http://www.croatia-in-english.com/rj/index.html Robert Jerin Croatian Heritage Museum Cleveland Ohio