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    1. [CROATIA-L] Fanta/Pavlekovic
    2. Mary Hegarty
    3. Hi List! I've been looking through films at LDS and it's been pretty discouraging. I'm not finished yet so maybe something will show up. My grandfather's name was Emil Fanta and his son, my uncle, was Charles Fanta. Emil would have been born probably in the 1870s and Charles would have been born around 1901 in Croatia. It is not a very common name but in the death index I did find an Emil and Charles Fanta who appear to be brothers. Their DOBs don't fit with my grandfather and uncle but because the names are the same I'm wondering if they might be relatives. My question is how do I find out about these two people from death records? Can I get their birthplaces and other family information? Through a google search Ifound an Emil Fanta on a holocaust list and on an insurance list. On the holocaust list his DOB was not there (the only one!) On the insurance list the DOB was 1878. This is possible. The records are in Vienna but I'm not sure how to contact these people. My other question is that on my grandmother's and my two aunts' ship manifest it shows their birthplaces as Virovitica but on the passenger record they show Verovitica. I ordered everything for Virovitica but I realize that there is also a Verovitica. Mary Hegarty

    04/22/2002 05:00:32
    1. Re: [CROATIA-L] Fanta/Pavlekovic
    2. Frank Kurchina
    3. Mary Hegarty wrote: > > Hi List! > I've been looking through films at LDS and it's been pretty discouraging. > I'm not finished yet so maybe something will show up. My grandfather's name > was Emil Fanta and his son, my uncle, was Charles Fanta. Emil would have > been born probably in the 1870s and Charles would have been born around 1901 > in Croatia. It is not a very common name but in the death index I did find > an Emil and Charles Fanta who appear to be brothers. Their DOBs don't fit > with my grandfather and uncle but because the names are the same I'm > wondering if they might be relatives. My question is how do I find out about > these two people from death records? Can I get their birthplaces and other > family information? > Through a google search Ifound an Emil Fanta on a holocaust list and on an > insurance list. On the holocaust list his DOB was not there (the only one!) > On the insurance list the DOB was 1878. This is possible. The records are in > Vienna but I'm not sure how to contact these people. > My other question is that on my grandmother's and my two aunts' ship > manifest it shows their birthplaces as Virovitica but on the passenger > record they show Verovitica. I ordered everything for Virovitica but I > realize that there is also a Verovitica. > Mary Hegarty Virovitica/Virovitisa is located 67 miles east of Zagreb. Where is Verovitica located ? Veroviditz was the German spelling for Virovitica. Veroviticza was its Hungarian place name. The Croatian telephone directory list 12 surnames Pavlekovic' listed under Virovitica z^upanija (county), Croatia. One surname Pavlekovic' is listed under Virovitica (town) The LDS filmed the R.C. parish church records (1686-1917) for Veröcze (also known as Veroviditz, Verovicza, or Veroviticza), Slavonien, Austria; later Verocze, Verocze, Hungary; now Virovitica, Croatia. Text in Latin and Croatian. You need surnames birthplaces before you can research possible surnames birth and death records ? Pre-WW I, the surname Fanta is found in Hungary and Czechoslovakia. Don't know if from Croatia or Czechoslovakia because neither country existed back then. The Holocaust records listing an Emil Fanta were for the Czech Republic. v Frank Kurcina

    04/22/2002 09:18:00
    1. Re: [CROATIA-L] Fanta/Pavlekovic
    2. Mary Hegarty
    3. on 4/22/02 4:18 PM, Frank Kurchina at frankur@worldnet.att.net wrote: > > > Mary Hegarty wrote: >> >> Hi List! >> I've been looking through films at LDS and it's been pretty discouraging. >> I'm not finished yet so maybe something will show up. My grandfather's name >> was Emil Fanta and his son, my uncle, was Charles Fanta. Emil would have >> been born probably in the 1870s and Charles would have been born around 1901 >> in Croatia. It is not a very common name but in the death index I did find >> an Emil and Charles Fanta who appear to be brothers. Their DOBs don't fit >> with my grandfather and uncle but because the names are the same I'm >> wondering if they might be relatives. My question is how do I find out about >> these two people from death records? Can I get their birthplaces and other >> family information? >> Through a google search Ifound an Emil Fanta on a holocaust list and on an >> insurance list. On the holocaust list his DOB was not there (the only one!) >> On the insurance list the DOB was 1878. This is possible. The records are in >> Vienna but I'm not sure how to contact these people. >> My other question is that on my grandmother's and my two aunts' ship >> manifest it shows their birthplaces as Virovitica but on the passenger >> record they show Verovitica. I ordered everything for Virovitica but I >> realize that there is also a Verovitica. >> Mary Hegarty > > Virovitica/Virovitisa is located 67 miles east of Zagreb. > Where is Verovitica located ? > Veroviditz was the German spelling for Virovitica. > Veroviticza was its Hungarian place name. > > The Croatian telephone directory list 12 surnames Pavlekovic' listed > under Virovitica z^upanija (county), Croatia. > One surname Pavlekovic' is listed under Virovitica (town) > > > The LDS filmed the R.C. parish church records (1686-1917) for Veröcze > (also known as Veroviditz, Verovicza, or Veroviticza), Slavonien, > Austria; later Verocze, Verocze, Hungary; now Virovitica, Croatia. > Text in Latin and Croatian. > > You need surnames birthplaces before you can research possible surnames > birth and death records ? > > > Pre-WW I, the surname Fanta is found in Hungary and Czechoslovakia. > Don't know if from Croatia or Czechoslovakia because neither country > existed back then. > The Holocaust records listing an Emil Fanta were for the Czech Republic. > > v > Frank Kurcina Frank, Thank you. How did you find out that Fanta was found in pre WWI Hungary and Czechoslovakia? Also, how did you find out that the holocaust records were from the Czech Republic? The insurance company record is a mystery. There is what appears to be a partial phone number listed. The company name seems to be OVAG. I did a search for it and OVAG is the power company. Mary

    04/23/2002 01:14:06