My grandfather, Ivan Bukovic, arrived in the US May 6, 1911 according the Ellis Island records. The town listed as last residence is the same as the town listed for nearest relative from "whence alien came". Same town but one listed as Austria and the other Slavonia. I asked once before if anyone had heard of this town (even Frank came up cold!) so I was wondering if anyone would mind looking at the manifest for me (but don't mind the name of the town as listed off the manifest as it may pre-dispose your translation!) I am afraid that I've seen the name so can't look at the manifest with a fresh eye. I sure would appreciate it! Peg Erbes

"Margaret B. Erbes" wrote: > > My grandfather, Ivan Bukovic, arrived in the US May 6, 1911 according the > Ellis Island records. The town listed as last residence is the same as the > town listed for nearest relative from "whence alien came". Same town but > one listed as Austria and the other Slavonia. I asked once before if anyone > had heard of this town (even Frank came up cold!) so I was wondering if > anyone would mind looking at the manifest for me (but don't mind the name of > the town as listed off the manifest as it may pre-dispose your translation!) > I am afraid that I've seen the name so can't look at the manifest with a > fresh eye. > > I sure would appreciate it! > > Peg Erbes I don't remember the Last Residence as listed in the ship manifest. However, there are two place names called Trnovo located in Slovenia, the republic next to Croatia. 1) Trnovo (Tarnova) located 38 miles west of Ljubljana, Slovenia. 2) Trnovo located 49 miles WNW of Ljubljana, Slovenia. The Austria connection makes this the plausible town. 1 Trnovo is located near the port of Trieste (Trst), Italy (then Austria) 2 Trnovo is located further north of the port but still is applicable. Following the First World War, new borders for Austro-Hungarian Monarchy were set by the Treaties of Saint Germain-en-Laye (September 10, 1919) and Trianon (June 4, 1920). As a result, the Austro-Hungarian Empire was utterly transformed into smaller territories and new countries. Hungary became an entirely separate nation, but lost large portions of its territories as well, retaining only core Hungarian-speaking areas. Retained were West and Central Hungary plus a small western portion of the Banat, the northern portion of the Batschka, the Central Hungarian Highlands, and the northern portion of Swabian Turkey. A new country of Yugoslavia was also formed including the former Austro-Hungarian lands of the southern portion of the Banat, the southern portion of the Batschka, Bosnia-Hercegovina, the southern portion of the duchy of Carinthia (Slovenia), most of the of duchy of Carniola, Croatia-Slavonia, the kingdom of Dalmatia, the southern portion of Swabian Turkey, the southern portion of duchy of Styria, and Syrmia. (The Kingdom of Serbs,Croats and Slovenes was established on Dec. 1, 1918) renamed Yugoslavia on October 4, 1929. It existed as such until WW 2 in 1941. (Federal Republic of Yugoslavia) from 1945 to 1991. The six republics that formed the former Yugoslavia were : Bosnia and Herzegovina, Croatia, Macedonia, Montenegro, Slovenia, and Serbia. Following WW 1, Italy took for itself the southwestern portion of duchy of Carniola, the county of Gorizia-Gradisca, the margraviate of Istria, the town of Trieste, the southern portion of the county of Tyrol, city of Zadar (formerly part of the Kingdom of Dalmatia), and the islands of Cherso/Ceres, Lusino/Los^inj, and Lagosta/Lastovo. The 1947 (WW 2) peace treaty recognized Yugoslavia's acquisition of the former Italian territory. This included Dalmatian city of Zadar/Zara and the islands of Cres/Cherso, Los^inj/Lusino, and Lastovo/Lagosta, as well as former city of Rijeka/Fiume and, farther north, western Slovenia and part of Istria. 1867-1918 Istria was part of of Austria under the dual Austro-Hungarian Monarchy. 1918-1947 Istria was part of Italy, not Croatia or Yugoslavia. Today, Trieste is not part of Istria nor of Croatia, but of Italy. In 1947, the Free Territory of Trieste was created . Zone A (city of Trieste) was administered by Anglo-American forces and Zone B by the Yugoslavs. In 1954, the Free Territory of Trieste was abolished. Zone B was given to former Yugoslavia and Zone A was given to Italy.

Thanks all who checked the manifest for me. I'm actually looking for the weird town name in columns 10 and 11. It looks almost like two words. I will also check the locations for Trnavo you mentioned as the one I looked at (near Djakovo) yielded nothing. Thanks again, Peg

Hello Peg, Trnava 115.6 miles ESE of Zagreb http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?latlongtype=decimal&latitude=45.2667&lo ngitude=18.2667 Checking the arr of GRGANIC (listed as a cousin on Ivan's manifest) there is a Mato from Lazo, Hungary which may be Laze (now Croatia). The in Column 11, Hobodna Wlast, is a puzzle. I am not familiar with such a place, however hobodnica is an octopus! I also search a placename list on a German genalogy web page and found no matches. The closest match is Slobodnica, which is near Laze. There is one listing for BUKOVIC from a village about a mile or so from Trnava Name - BUKOVIC BORIS Address - ZAGREBACKA 70 Postal Code & Town - 35214 DONJI ANDRIJEVCI Phone - 385 35 471 235 There are more listings for the names MARTINOVIC and GRGANIC are found in the area near Trnava in the online phone book. http://www.croatia-in-english.com/rj/index.html Hope this helps Robert Jerin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret B. Erbes" <peg-erbes@wi.rr.com> To: <CROATIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 10:05 PM Subject: [CROATIA-L] Bukovic from an unknown town > My grandfather, Ivan Bukovic, arrived in the US May 6, 1911 according the > Ellis Island records. The town listed as last residence is the same as the > town listed for nearest relative from "whence alien came". Same town but > one listed as Austria and the other Slavonia. I asked once before if anyone > had heard of this town (even Frank came up cold!) so I was wondering if > anyone would mind looking at the manifest for me (but don't mind the name of > the town as listed off the manifest as it may pre-dispose your translation!) > I am afraid that I've seen the name so can't look at the manifest with a > fresh eye. > > I sure would appreciate it! > > Peg Erbes >