----- Original Message ----- From: <kathy@ring.com> To: <CROATIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 8:08 AM Subject: Re: [CROATIA-L] Pongerc Surname > I thought the same thing - maybe Pongerc is Pongrac! I am researching the > Pongrac family from the Kraljevec na Sutli/Radakovo area (nw of Zagreb). > I've also seen the spelling as Pongratz. > > Stephen Pongrac (born January 1, 1873) came over to the US on the SS. Alice > out of Trieste on September 16, 1907 with his niece, Teresa Rose Pavlic' (my > paternal grandmother). I "believe" that Stephan married Anna Stipcic', also > of Kraljevec on July 5, 1914 in the US. > > Kathy > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robert Jerin" <rjerin@adelphia.net> > To: <CROATIA-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 6:44 AM > Subject: Re: [CROATIA-L] Pongerc Surname > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Connie" <Connie.1@t-online.de> > > To: <CROATIA-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 11:45 PM > > Subject: [CROATIA-L] Pongerc Surname > > > > > > > I'm looking for people with the surname Pongerc in Croatia. > Unfortunately > > I don't have any information on the localities and the surname was not > found > > on the Croatian online phone directory. Thank you! > > > > Are you certain of the sp? Searching Ellis Island records from the link > > below for ALL names beginning with PONG, following was found: Pongrac, > > Pongracz from Croatia but zero listing for PONGERC from anyplace. > > > > http://home.pacbell.net/spmorse/ellis/ellis.html > > > > Robert Jerin > > Hello Kathy, The name PONGRAC is sp. w/o a diacritcal mark over the C thus it would have the sound as the ts in the word cats. Some immigrants would have changed the sp to pongrats or pongratz, same effect in keeping the original sound, otherwise Americans would have pronounced it pongrak. -ac endings on Croatian surnames "sometimes" mean some is from a place. Robert Jerin

I didn't know that! Thanks for the info! Kathy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Jerin" <rjerin@adelphia.net> To: <CROATIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 8:54 AM Subject: Re: [CROATIA-L] Pongerc Surname > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <kathy@ring.com> > To: <CROATIA-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 8:08 AM > Subject: Re: [CROATIA-L] Pongerc Surname > > > > I thought the same thing - maybe Pongerc is Pongrac! I am researching the > > Pongrac family from the Kraljevec na Sutli/Radakovo area (nw of Zagreb). > > I've also seen the spelling as Pongratz. > > > > Stephen Pongrac (born January 1, 1873) came over to the US on the SS. > Alice > > out of Trieste on September 16, 1907 with his niece, Teresa Rose Pavlic' > (my > > paternal grandmother). I "believe" that Stephan married Anna Stipcic', > also > > of Kraljevec on July 5, 1914 in the US. > > > > Kathy > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Robert Jerin" <rjerin@adelphia.net> > > To: <CROATIA-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 6:44 AM > > Subject: Re: [CROATIA-L] Pongerc Surname > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Connie" <Connie.1@t-online.de> > > > To: <CROATIA-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 11:45 PM > > > Subject: [CROATIA-L] Pongerc Surname > > > > > > > > > > I'm looking for people with the surname Pongerc in Croatia. > > Unfortunately > > > I don't have any information on the localities and the surname was not > > found > > > on the Croatian online phone directory. Thank you! > > > > > > Are you certain of the sp? Searching Ellis Island records from the link > > > below for ALL names beginning with PONG, following was found: Pongrac, > > > Pongracz from Croatia but zero listing for PONGERC from anyplace. > > > > > > http://home.pacbell.net/spmorse/ellis/ellis.html > > > > > > Robert Jerin > > > > > Hello Kathy, > > The name PONGRAC is sp. w/o a diacritcal mark over the C thus it would have > the sound as the ts in the word cats. Some immigrants would have changed > the sp to pongrats or pongratz, same effect in keeping the original sound, > otherwise Americans would have pronounced it pongrak. -ac endings on > Croatian surnames "sometimes" mean some is from a place. > > Robert Jerin > > > _________________________________________________________________ > For your protection, this e-mail has been scanned for known > viruses and damaging content by http://GATEWAYDEFENDER.com >