Actually Croatians and Serbians relations was not bad until just after the founding of SHS With all due respect to Nenad, perhaps those of us who have had more than a casual relationship with Croatia, the war and her drive for independence have a feel for this better than others Here is a link to an article from Michael McAdams book, Croatia-Myth and Reality. http://mirror.veus.hr/myth/firstyugo.html Robert Karen Heiser <[email protected]> wrote: Dear List - I think the point I was trying to make is that while logically we may all know about the Balkans, etc, in this area you have 100s of years of ethnic "bad feelings". Lumping us altogether under one name is NOT going to make that go away. Even in today's "enlightened" age (and several wars later) some of us are much more likely to label ourselves "Slavic" than "Balkan". And this is not intended to start another war...after all, we Slavic/Balkan peoples are kind of volatile! Karen Heiser Weed, Siskiyou, CA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerome Buza" To: Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 8:53 AM Subject: Re: [CROATIA-L] Balkans > They may not have liked it (I had never heard this before), but it seems to > be in the history books. I don't know why it is so bad as we are all > children of God andf that is what is important. It is almost like "sticks > and stones will break my bones, but names will never hurt me". > Margaret > ----- Original Message ----- > From: " Karen Heiser" > To: > Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 1:39 AM > Subject: Re: [CROATIA-L] Balkans > > > > Dear List - the sound you hear is my Grandmother, rolling over in her > > grave. > > If she was able to partake in THIS discussion, all 4 ft. 11 ins. of her > > would be in your face! I agree with Robert, being called a Balkan was not > > a > > good thing to most Croatians. > > Karen Heiser > > Weed, Siskiyou, CA > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jerome Buza" > > To: > > Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 10:46 PM > > Subject: [CROATIA-L] Balkans > > > > > >> Encyclopedia > >> > > >> > Balkan Peninsula > >> > > >> > Balkan Peninsula, southeasternmost peninsula of Europe, c.200,000 sq mi > >> > (518,000 sq km), bounded by the Black Sea, Sea of Marmara, Aegean Sea, > >> > Mediterranean Sea, Ionian Sea, and Adriatic Sea. Although there is no > >> > sharp physiographic separation between the peninsula and Central > >> > Europe, > >> > the line of the Sava and Danube rivers is commonly considered as the > >> > region's northern limit. The Balkan Peninsula therefore includes most > >> > of > >> > Slovenia, Croatia, and Serbia and Montenegro, Bosnia and Hercegovina, > >> > Albania, Macedonia, continental Greece (including the Peloponnesus), > >> > Bulgaria, European Turkey, and SE Romania. These countries, successors > > to > >> > the Ottoman Empire, are called the Balkan States. Historically and > >> > politically the region extends north of this line to include all of > >> > Slovenia, Croatia, Serbia and Montenegro, and Romania. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > No virus found in this incoming message. > >> > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > >> > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.1 - Release Date: 4/1/2005 > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> No virus found in this incoming message. > >> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > >> Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.1 - Release > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.1 - Release Date: 4/1/2005 > > > > > > Interested in visting Croatia? Click on the link below to find out about a wonderful tour of Croatia! http://www.kollander-travel.com/