Amen! Like you, my wife knows who she is and what she is about! No wimpishness about her nor any whining about being a victim. Politicians love to sort us all into groups of "vitcims" and "victimizer" and all the while they go about enriching their bank accounts! Robert Fran Hamilton <[email protected]> wrote: Please, no more bantering. I am very much a woman, however, I don't feel superior to men nor do I believe men for the most part treat me less equal. We are in this together and no one living today is responsible for past transgressions. And, as far as "history"...it should encompass all nationalities and faiths and both sexes. Enough separation...Please.... Thanks, Fran Hamilton Surnames researching: BACA from Gornje Sredice(changed to Bacho), VRATARIC (from Gnojnice and Valisselo) and SABAT (from Prerau (Moravia) and Bjelovar). Additions: MATIC and LAMPOVSKA. Interested in visting Croatia? Click on the link below to find out about a wonderful tour of Croatia! http://www.kollander-travel.com/