Croatia and Slovenia are central European countries not Balkan countries. A well known phrase used when someone is crude or rude in Croatia is ti si Balkanac! Jerome Buza <[email protected]> wrote:We have several stores in Arizona that carry canned and packaged goods from Croatia and Slovenia and other Balkan countries and can get Bull's Blood wine from Egar at our Trader Joe's. Margaret ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lisa Kovach" To: Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 8:50 AM Subject: Re: [CROATIA-L] Lamb Roast > http://www.swua.org/food&wine/ Here's a site of stores in the USA that > sell croation foods. Lisa > From: Erika Curi > To: [email protected] > Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 9:35 AM > Subject: Re: [CROATIA-L] Lamb Roast > > > ANN SMETANA,CHARLES PINTAR ? > > > > > > > >Pray tell What Is "Smetana"? > >Nick > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Robert Jerin" > >To: > >Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 9:24 PM > >Subject: Re: [CROATIA-L] Lamb Roast > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Charla con tus amigos en l�nea mediante MSN Messenger: > http://messenger.latam.msn.com/ > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.1 - Release Date: 4/1/2005 > > Interested in visting Croatia? Click on the link below to find out about a wonderful tour of Croatia! http://www.kollander-travel.com/
Another mistake on my part as I have a cookbook that is titled "The Balkan Cookbook" and contains recipes from what was then Yugoslavia, Rumania, Bulgaria, Albania, Greece, and Turkey and is published by Jugoslovenska Knjiga. and it talks about the Danube coastline, Montenegro, Dalmatia, and the Croatian coast and shows the map the way Yugoslavia or Jugoslavia was while Tito was in charge before the recent wars. I was not good in History in school and use my cookbooks and this Croatian site and the DonauSchwaban site as my history lesson for my 65 year old brain. Margaret ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Jerin" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 4:57 PM Subject: Re: [CROATIA-L] Lamb Roast > Croatia and Slovenia are central European countries not Balkan countries. > A well known phrase used when someone is crude or rude in Croatia is ti si > Balkanac! > > Jerome Buza <[email protected]> wrote:We have several stores in Arizona > that carry canned and packaged goods from > Croatia and Slovenia and other Balkan countries and can get Bull's Blood > wine from Egar at our Trader Joe's. > Margaret > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lisa Kovach" > > To: > Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 8:50 AM > Subject: Re: [CROATIA-L] Lamb Roast > > >> http://www.swua.org/food&wine/ Here's a site of stores in the USA that >> sell croation foods. Lisa >> From: Erika Curi >> To: [email protected] >> Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 9:35 AM >> Subject: Re: [CROATIA-L] Lamb Roast >> >> >> ANN SMETANA,CHARLES PINTAR ? >> >> >> >> >> > >> >Pray tell What Is "Smetana"? >> >Nick >> > >> > >> >----- Original Message ----- >> >From: "Robert Jerin" >> >To: >> >Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 9:24 PM >> >Subject: Re: [CROATIA-L] Lamb Roast >> > >> > >> > >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Charla con tus amigos en línea mediante MSN Messenger: >> http://messenger.latam.msn.com/ >> >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >> Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.1 - Release Date: 4/1/2005 >> >> > > > > > Interested in visting Croatia? Click on the link below to find out about > a wonderful tour of Croatia! > > http://www.kollander-travel.com/ > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.1 - Release Date: 4/1/2005 > >
Dear Mr. Robert One, it is what we will want to be and other are truth and facts what Europeans see as what we are:) Br, Nenad The Balkans is the historic and geographic name used to describe southeastern Europe. The region has a combined area of 550,000 km² and a population of around 53 million. The region takes its name from the Balkan mountains which run through the centre of Bulgaria into eastern Serbia. Definitions and boundaries The Balkans are generally considered to comprise the lands to the south of the Kupa, Sava and Danube rivers. The Kupa forms a natural boundary between south-eastern Slovenia and Croatia, the Sava bisects Croatia and Serbia and the Danube, which is the 2nd largest European river (after Volga), forms a natural boundary between both Bulgaria and Serbia and Romania. North of that line lies the Pannonian plain and (in the case of Romania) the Carpathian mountains. Although Romania (with the exception of Dobrudja) is not geographically part of the Balkans, it is conventionally included as a successor state to the old Ottoman Empire, which formerly ruled the whole region. Slovenia is likewise sometimes regarded as a Balkan country due to its association with the former Yugoslavia, although historically and culturally it is more connected to the other Central European countries. The Balkan land mass is sometimes referred to as the Balkan peninsula as it is surrounded by the Adriatic, Ionian, Aegean, Marmara and Black seas from the southwest, south and southeast. While it is not a model peninsula as it has no isthmus to connect it to the mainland of Europe, this definition is often used to denote the wider region. The distinct identity of the Balkans owes as much to its fragmented and often violent common history as to its mountainous geography. The region was perennially on the edge of great empires, its history dominated by wars, rebellions, invasions and clashes between empires, from the times of the Roman Empire to the latter-day Yugoslav wars. Its fractiousness and tendency to splinter into rival political entities led to the coining of the term Balkanization (or balkanizing). The term Balkan commonly connotes a connection with violence, religious strife, ethnic clannishness and a sense of hinterland. Due to the aforementioned connotations of the term "Balkan", many people prefer the term Southeastern Europe instead. The use of this term is slowly growing; a European Union initiative of 1999 is called the Stability Pact for South Eastern Europe, and the online newspaper Balkan Times renamed itself Southeast European Times in 2003. The use of this term to mean the Balkan peninsula (and only that) technically ignores the geographical presence of northern Romania and Ukraine, which are also located in the southeastern part of the European continent. The countries commonly included in the Balkan region are: Albania Bosnia and Herzegovina Bulgaria Croatia Greece Republic of Macedonia Serbia and Montenegro Turkey, but only the European part of it around Istanbul (traditionally called Rumelia or Eastern Thrace) Romania and Slovenia are sometimes included in the list as well. Many regions in the countries listed as Balkan states can be in many respects rather distinct from the remainder of the region, so countries that are borderline cases (often far away from the Balkan mountain itself) usually prefer not to be called Balkan countries. Prime examples of this are Romania and Slovenia, sometimes also Croatia and Greece. Other countries not included in the Balkan region that are close to it and/or play or have played an important role in the region's geopolitics, culture and history: Cyprus (see also Cyprus dispute) Hungary (see also Austria-Hungary) Austria (see also Austria-Hungary, Assassination in Sarajevo) Italy (see Croatia: Dalmatia, Zara, Fiume; History of Slovenia) Russia (see History of Serbia) -----Original Message----- From: Robert Jerin [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 2. april 2005 17:58 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [CROATIA-L] Lamb Roast Croatia and Slovenia are central European countries not Balkan countries. A well known phrase used when someone is crude or rude in Croatia is ti si Balkanac! Jerome Buza <[email protected]> wrote:We have several stores in Arizona that carry canned and packaged goods from Croatia and Slovenia and other Balkan countries and can get Bull's Blood wine from Egar at our Trader Joe's. Margaret ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lisa Kovach" To: Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 8:50 AM Subject: Re: [CROATIA-L] Lamb Roast > http://www.swua.org/food&wine/ Here's a site of stores in the USA that > sell croation foods. Lisa > From: Erika Curi > To: [email protected] > Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 9:35 AM > Subject: Re: [CROATIA-L] Lamb Roast > > > ANN SMETANA,CHARLES PINTAR ? > > > > > > > >Pray tell What Is "Smetana"? > >Nick > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Robert Jerin" > >To: > >Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 9:24 PM > >Subject: Re: [CROATIA-L] Lamb Roast > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Charla con tus amigos en línea mediante MSN Messenger: > http://messenger.latam.msn.com/ > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.1 - Release Date: 4/1/2005 > > Interested in visting Croatia? Click on the link below to find out about a wonderful tour of Croatia! http://www.kollander-travel.com/