And, I found this about Cravat and Croatia.... cravat Look up cravat at Dictionary.com 1656, from Fr. cravate, from Cravate "Croatian," from Ger. Krabate, from Serbo-Croat Hrvat "a Croat," from O.Slav. Churvatinu "Croat," lit. "mountaineer, highlander," from churva "mountain." Cravats came into fashion 1650s in imitation of linen scarves worn by Croatian mercenaries in the French army in the Thirty Years War. So, it appears that the origin of the word Croatia comes from the French. Vicki -----Original Message----- From: Robert Jerin [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 7:39 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [CROATIA-L] Postanak imena Hrvat OK then why do we call Deutchland Germany? Robert "Sauter, Vicki L." <[email protected]> wrote: Ah, because Germany is Deutchland! I think Croatia got corrupted because of our translation of Cravat ... as I recall that is the origin of Hrvatska-Croatia change. Vicki -----Original Message----- From: Robert Jerin [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 4:44 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [CROATIA-L] Postanak imena Hrvat Well why do we call the Deutsch .... Germans! Or why to the Croatians call Germans Nijemac ? Robert "Dr. Andrew Nixon" wrote: Ok, you scholars, how did the word Hrvat become Croatian? -----Original Message----- From: Frank Kurchina [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 4:19 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [CROATIA-L] Postanak imena Hrvat http://www.stjeromecroatian.org/eng/custody3.html http://www.stjeromecroatian.org/hrv/custody3b.html PRIPOVJEST O BIBLIJI - Drugo izdanje Str:189 http://www.personal.kent.edu/~knamjesn/knjizara/i.html Interested in visting Croatia? Click on the link below to find out about a wonderful tour of Croatia! http://www.kollander-travel.com/ Interested in visting Croatia? Click on the link below to find out about a wonderful tour of Croatia! http://www.kollander-travel.com/

Many years ago, my French instructor told us that the French word for necktie, cravate, was linked to Croatia. The French liked the style of the neck scarves worn by the Croatians. Cravate is the French word for Croatian, therefore the French decided to refer to a necktie as a cravate. Catherine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sauter, Vicki L." <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 7:12 PM Subject: RE: [CROATIA-L] Postanak imena Hrvat > And, I found this about Cravat and Croatia.... > cravat Look up cravat at Dictionary.com > 1656, from Fr. cravate, from Cravate "Croatian," from Ger. Krabate, > from Serbo-Croat Hrvat "a Croat," from O.Slav. Churvatinu "Croat," lit. > "mountaineer, highlander," from churva "mountain." Cravats came into > fashion 1650s in imitation of linen scarves worn by Croatian mercenaries > in the French army in the Thirty Years War. > > So, it appears that the origin of the word Croatia comes from the > French. > > Vicki > > -----Original Message----- > From: Robert Jerin [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 7:39 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: [CROATIA-L] Postanak imena Hrvat > > > OK then why do we call Deutchland Germany? > > Robert > > "Sauter, Vicki L." <[email protected]> wrote: > Ah, because Germany is Deutchland! > I think Croatia got corrupted because of our translation of Cravat ... > as I recall that is the origin of Hrvatska-Croatia change. > > Vicki > > -----Original Message----- > From: Robert Jerin [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 4:44 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: [CROATIA-L] Postanak imena Hrvat > > Well why do we call the Deutsch .... Germans! Or why to the Croatians > call Germans Nijemac ? > > Robert > > "Dr. Andrew Nixon" wrote: > Ok, you scholars, how did the word Hrvat become Croatian? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Frank Kurchina [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 4:19 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [CROATIA-L] Postanak imena Hrvat > > http://www.stjeromecroatian.org/eng/custody3.html > > http://www.stjeromecroatian.org/hrv/custody3b.html > > PRIPOVJEST O BIBLIJI - Drugo izdanje Str:189 > http://www.personal.kent.edu/~knamjesn/knjizara/i.html > > > > > > > > Interested in visting Croatia? Click on the link below to find out about > a wonderful tour of Croatia! > > http://www.kollander-travel.com/ > > > > > Interested in visting Croatia? Click on the link below to find out > about a wonderful tour of Croatia! > > http://www.kollander-travel.com/ > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.7 - Release Date: 4/12/05 > >