Dear Tatjana, Well stated! Robert [email protected] wrote: In a message dated 4/3/2005 4:58:50 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: << Subj: Re: [CROATIA-L] Balkans Date: 4/3/2005 4:58:50 AM Eastern Daylight Time From: [email protected] Reply-to: [email protected] To: [email protected] Are we talking about geography or "the West's" effort to malign people from the region which they repeatedly deliberately invaded and pillaged? Karen, your granma should rest in piece whether she is supposed to come from "the Balkans" or London. Holocaust and witchburnings did not originate in "the Balkans". And when the Dutch behaved as they did (Srebrenica) was it the fault of "the Balkans" or the people who tolerated horrible events regardless of in which part of Europe they originated? When- many years ago- I learned about the French word "balcaniser", I did not feel shamed. I was offended and resentful. Many dictionaries could be enriched by inventing words referring to the French behaviour throughout history. But this would lead nowhere. Rather be proud of your people's contributions than worry about other people's prejudices. This brings me to lambroast again. Nobody mentioned that it refers to "licki janjac", lets give credit to Lika! (whether it is in "the Balkans" or southeasteurope) Tatjana n a message dated 4/3/2005 12:40:39 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: the sound you hear is my Grandmother, rolling over in her grave. If she was able to partake in THIS discussion, all 4 ft. 11 ins. of her would be in your face! I agree with Robert, being called a Balkan was not a good thing to most Croatians. Karen Heiser Weed, Siskiyou, CA So THAT is what I was hearing! Clear down here in southern California!! I shall be very, very careful in what I say!! Sharon Dulcich Bakersfield, Kern Co., CA Interested in visting Croatia? Click on the link below to find out about a wonderful tour of Croatia! http://www.kollander-travel.com/