Ahh! and and what do golf courses in Arizona have to do with Croatian genealogy?? But, of course, that's different. The "men folk" like that golf talk! Yes, it is patronizing, and I will never get used to it or accept it. Thank you, Tatjana! Sarah ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 12:33 AM Subject: Re: [CROATIA-L] feminist movement and "genealogy" We are often discussing history: the Croats, Slovenes, their language, the food they eat and cook. And I saw no complaints. But mention the women (except in their families' kitchens) and soon the girls are mentioned- is it just patronizing or? Going through the US census reports I could not but wonder: how did they do it? 8, 10 children, husband going to the coppermines and a boarder or 2 in the apartement. All the while apparently they had no basic legal rights. Are we only interested in their gourmet cooking and the rights of Magyars and the language of Poles? but not the lifes of our gmothers? Right on Ashley! And the rest: please explain what do the recipes have to do with genealogy as you understand it? Tatjana Former (glad to have been able to be accepted to medical school and to spend my own earnings with my own credit cards. And to vote!)

After giving it five more minutes of thought, if I remember correctly, those golf courses discussed were in Nevada, not Arizona. Whatever! Ashley's email was much more relevant to Croatian genealogy than any discussion of golf courses. Sarah ----- Original Message ----- From: Sarah Mueller<mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 2:28 AM Subject: Re: [CROATIA-L] feminist movement and "genealogy" Ahh! and and what do golf courses in Arizona have to do with Croatian genealogy?? But, of course, that's different. The "men folk" like that golf talk! Yes, it is patronizing, and I will never get used to it or accept it. Thank you, Tatjana! Sarah ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 12:33 AM Subject: Re: [CROATIA-L] feminist movement and "genealogy" We are often discussing history: the Croats, Slovenes, their language, the food they eat and cook. And I saw no complaints. But mention the women (except in their families' kitchens) and soon the girls are mentioned- is it just patronizing or? Going through the US census reports I could not but wonder: how did they do it? 8, 10 children, husband going to the coppermines and a boarder or 2 in the apartement. All the while apparently they had no basic legal rights. Are we only interested in their gourmet cooking and the rights of Magyars and the language of Poles? but not the lifes of our gmothers? Right on Ashley! And the rest: please explain what do the recipes have to do with genealogy as you understand it? Tatjana Former (glad to have been able to be accepted to medical school and to spend my own earnings with my own credit cards. And to vote!)