.Robert, this article expains nicely the names German, Deutsch etc. http://www.linguistlist.org/~ask-ling/archive-2000.1/msg00585.html Fascinating- at least for me- is the origin of "Nijemac". It comes from Russian: because the Russians could not understand the Germans' speech they called them nijem= dumb. There is a certain (rather twisted) logic there. If you do not understand them it is because they do not know or are able to speak. Isn't this a little how at times the immigrants were approached by some? Tatjana