In a message dated 4/3/2005 12:40:39 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: the sound you hear is my Grandmother, rolling over in her grave. If she was able to partake in THIS discussion, all 4 ft. 11 ins. of her would be in your face! I agree with Robert, being called a Balkan was not a good thing to most Croatians. Karen Heiser Weed, Siskiyou, CA So THAT is what I was hearing! Clear down here in southern California!! I shall be very, very careful in what I say!! Sharon Dulcich Bakersfield, Kern Co., CA