Helene, Ante = Tony and sounds like ahntay Ljuba = Violet and sounds like lyoobah, the Lj is a single character in the Croatian alphabet and sounds like the ll in the word million. ILIC sounds like eelich and is perhaps based on the male given name Ilija (eeleeya). IC ending means son of. Just ask yourself to pronounce KRSTI�EVI� ! and you can imagine other English speakers trying to pronounce the name the name sounds like krrrsteechavich. The e has a kind of long a sound. And four consonants in a row! Not typical in spellings English speakers would be familiar with. Krs would not sound like krrrsh as you indicated, at least according to the phone book spellings, as there is no diacritical mark over the S which sounds like ess, just like English. Here are some Croatian letter sounds c with no mark sounds like the ts in cats, � like a hard CH sound, � softer CH sound, � like SH and the Z with a mark over it like the S in the word treasure. It helps to learn a something about the language and things become clearer. Only one listing at Ellis Is for Krsticevic,Jozo http://www.kollander-travel.com/ Robert Helene Ennor <[email protected]> wrote: I have finally made a contact with my Krsticevic/Kristovich family in Vid, Croatia and would like to know how to pronounce a few of the names on the paperwork I received: Ante (I think this person was referred to as "Tony" here) Ljuba (first name) Ilic or I'lic' (last name) KRSTECEVIC sounds like krrrsh Any thoughts on how "Krsticevic" turned into "Kristovich" here? Maybe it is not pronounced the way it looks? Thanks in advance for your help. Helene Interested in visting Croatia? Click on the link below to find out about a wonderful tour of Croatia! http://www.kollander-travel.com/

Robert, Thank you so much for the wonderful information. It really helps alot. Someday . . . maybe I will have the privilege to visit my grandfather's homeland. ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert Jerin To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 7:36 PM Subject: Re: [CROATIA-L] Pronunciation help please Helene, Ante = Tony and sounds like ahntay Ljuba = Violet and sounds like lyoobah, the Lj is a single character in the Croatian alphabet and sounds like the ll in the word million. ILIC sounds like eelich and is perhaps based on the male given name Ilija (eeleeya). IC ending means son of. Just ask yourself to pronounce KRSTIÈEVIÆ ! and you can imagine other English speakers trying to pronounce the name the name sounds like krrrsteechavich. The e has a kind of long a sound. And four consonants in a row! Not typical in spellings English speakers would be familiar with. Krs would not sound like krrrsh as you indicated, at least according to the phone book spellings, as there is no diacritical mark over the S which sounds like ess, just like English. Here are some Croatian letter sounds c with no mark sounds like the ts in cats, è like a hard CH sound, æ softer CH sound, s like SH and the Z with a mark over it like the S in the word treasure. It helps to learn a something about the language and things become clearer. Only one listing at Ellis Is for Krsticevic,Jozo http://www.kollander-travel.com/ Robert Helene Ennor <[email protected]> wrote: I have finally made a contact with my Krsticevic/Kristovich family in Vid, Croatia and would like to know how to pronounce a few of the names on the paperwork I received: Ante (I think this person was referred to as "Tony" here) Ljuba (first name) Ilic or I'lic' (last name) KRSTECEVIC sounds like krrrsh Any thoughts on how "Krsticevic" turned into "Kristovich" here? Maybe it is not pronounced the way it looks? Thanks in advance for your help. Helene Interested in visting Croatia? Click on the link below to find out about a wonderful tour of Croatia! http://www.kollander-travel.com/

Robert, Thank you for the explanation of the four vowels and how it sounds. I love learning new things on this group. Thanks.--Joy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Jerin" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 5:36 PM Subject: Re: [CROATIA-L] Pronunciation help please > Helene, > > Ante = Tony and sounds like ahntay > > Ljuba = Violet and sounds like lyoobah, the Lj is a single character in > the Croatian alphabet and sounds like the ll in the word million. > > ILIC sounds like eelich and is perhaps based on the male given name Ilija > (eeleeya). IC ending means son of. > > Just ask yourself to pronounce KRSTIÈEVIÆ ! and you can imagine other > English speakers trying to pronounce the name the name sounds like > krrrsteechavich. The e has a kind of long a sound. And four consonants > in a row! Not typical in spellings English speakers would be familiar > with. Krs would not sound like krrrsh as you indicated, at least > according to the phone book spellings, as there is no diacritical mark > over the S which sounds like ess, just like English. > > Here are some Croatian letter sounds c with no mark sounds like the ts in > cats, è like a hard CH sound, æ softer CH sound, s like SH and the Z with > a mark over it like the S in the word treasure. > > It helps to learn a something about the language and things become > clearer. > > Only one listing at Ellis Is for Krsticevic,Jozo > > http://www.kollander-travel.com/ > > Robert > > Helene Ennor <[email protected]> wrote: > > I have finally made a contact with my Krsticevic/Kristovich family in Vid, > Croatia and would like to know how to pronounce a few of the names on the > paperwork I received: > > Ante (I think this person was referred to as "Tony" here) > > Ljuba (first name) > > Ilic or I'lic' (last name) > > KRSTECEVIC sounds like krrrsh > > > > Any thoughts on how "Krsticevic" turned into "Kristovich" here? Maybe it > is not pronounced the way it looks? > > Thanks in advance for your help. > > Helene > > > > > > > Interested in visting Croatia? Click on the link below to find out about > a wonderful tour of Croatia! > > http://www.kollander-travel.com/ >