On Dec 17, 2006, at 1:01 AM, croatia-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Heraldry (Don Marinkovich) > 2. Heraldry (Don Marinkovich) > 3. introduction (Robert) > 4. Croatian Heraldry Website (Ella) > 5. Re: Croatian Heraldry Website (davem9759@juno.com) > 6. Re: Croatian Heraldry Website (Croatian Heraldry Office) > 7. Re: Heraldry (Robert Jerin) > 8. Re: Heraldry (Don Marinkovich) > 9. Re: introduction (Tat417761@cs.com) > 10. Re: introduction (Robert) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 10:49:17 -0600 > From: "Don Marinkovich" <djedo@2z.net> > Subject: [CROATIA] Heraldry > To: <CROATIA-L@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <01b601c72132$206bde10$0200a8c0@your1sfdbkykfj> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" > > I sent a message inquiring about Marinkovich and Gvozdanovich. I > think that I got a run around. I had some much better information > from David Hollis. He sent copies of articles from the Austrian > books. Wappen Buch and Adels Buch. Not very sure of the > spelling. There is also a book, Plemenitski, Zbor That deals with > that, Plemenitststvo means nobility. > Donald Marinkovich > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 11:14:43 -0600 > From: "Don Marinkovich" <djedo@2z.net> > Subject: [CROATIA] Heraldry > To: <CROATIA-L@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <01bd01c72135$ae5c5b20$0200a8c0@your1sfdbkykfj> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" > > My appologies to Heraldry. There were attachments that I missed. > They are in cyrlic, but I might be able to get it translated. > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 13:36:17 -0500 > From: Robert <peregrine1@rogers.com> > Subject: [CROATIA] introduction > To: CROATIA@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <200612161836.kBGIaHEI010876@mail.rootsweb.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > > Good Afternoon List, > I am fairly new to this list so My response to the Croatian Heraldry > has been met with skepticism. > I have been a lurker since late September hoping for some topic that > might lead to discussion about the Zrinyi/Zrinski surname... since > this did not occur I will open with my querie: > > I am seeking to fill in a gap in my wife's family's genealogy ...We > have been told by her father that his line connects to Miklos Zrinyi, > but I have failed to make the connection ...If anyone on this list > has a current Genealogy that traces the line to present day, or to > last century I would like to hear from You either by way of this list > or personal email. Since my wife's line is from Hungary this list may > not have the information I am looking for, But on the Other hand > Since the name implies "from Zrin" an area of Croatia someone might > have some information that could assist me in my Quest. > > Respectfully Yours > Robert P Stutsman > > "Hands off the Magyars" Miklos Zrinyi > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 15:28:46 -0500 > From: "Ella" <twigs_269@comcast.net> > Subject: [CROATIA] Croatian Heraldry Website > To: <CROATIA@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <008901c72150$c98d4f10$8049e547@Z30220.ecpm.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > It appears this is the only "Heraldry" book they have available and > that is only from 1899 forward. > > "Der Adel von Kroatien und Slavonien" by Dr Ivan v. Bojnicic from > 1899 or any other armorial register at our disposal" > > Ella > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 20:52:48 GMT > From: "davem9759@juno.com" <davem9759@juno.com> > Subject: Re: [CROATIA] Croatian Heraldry Website > To: croatia@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <20061216.125304.29474.1484954@webmail26.nyc.untd.com> > Content-Type: text/plain > > Here is the answer I got from the Heral > Dear David, > > We have indeed found references to noble families Bakic and > Matkovic in Bojnicic's armorial register. > We could scan and e-mail to you images of armorials and text (free > of charge). > > Unfortunately the drawings are black and white and the text is in > German. > We could produce colour hand painted armorials and provide > translations. > > On Vuksic we found a connection to noble familiy Vuzich but > unfortunately at present we have no additional information. > > If you are related to Matkovic we could eventually offer to compile > all genealogy information you will provide and put it together in a > form of "coat-of-arms, genealogy and nobility certificate". It is a > book, writen in Croatian language, usualy 10-12 pergament pages, > with hand painted colour armorial. The certificate is leather bound > with gold printed armorial of ours. The whole document is also > certified with apostle by Notarius Publicus. > > Should you need any further assistance please do not hesitate to > contact us. > > Croatian Heraldry Office > dry Office: > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 21:56:00 +0100 > From: "Croatian Heraldry Office" <croatian.heraldry.office@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [CROATIA] Croatian Heraldry Website > To: croatia@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <e69576c50612161256l51d21528qfec5f2495a6d30d5@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Dear Ella, > > Our apologies for not being clear enough. > When we mentioned "Der Adel von Kroatien und Slavonien" by Dr Ivan v. > Bojnicic from 1899 or any other armorial register at our disposal" > we actually meant that the armorial "Der Adel von Kroatien und > Slavonien" > was issued year 1899. > It covers most if not all of heraldry achievements recorded until > the year > 1899. > Heraldry archived after the year 1899 would not be covered by that > armorial. > > Regards > > Croatian Heraldry Office > > > On 12/16/06, Ella <twigs_269@comcast.net> wrote: >> >> It appears this is the only "Heraldry" book they have available >> and that >> is only from 1899 forward. >> >> "Der Adel von Kroatien und Slavonien" by Dr Ivan v. Bojnicic from >> 1899 or >> any other armorial register at our disposal" >> >> Ella >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> CROATIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 13:53:34 -0800 (PST) > From: Robert Jerin <rjerin26@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [CROATIA] Heraldry > To: croatia@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <657738.18560.qm@web82406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Is it Cyrllic or is it Glagolica? > > Robert > > Don Marinkovich <djedo@2z.net> wrote: > My appologies to Heraldry. There were attachments that I missed. > They are in cyrlic, but I might be able to get it translated. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CROATIA- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > "Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but not their own > facts", Sen. Daniel Patrick Moynihan > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 16:37:52 -0600 > From: "Don Marinkovich" <djedo@2z.net> > Subject: Re: [CROATIA] Heraldry > To: <croatia@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <02a501c72162$d2e43030$0200a8c0@your1sfdbkykfj> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Cirilica > > Don > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robert Jerin" <rjerin26@yahoo.com> > To: <croatia@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 3:53 PM > Subject: Re: [CROATIA] Heraldry > > >> Is it Cyrllic or is it Glagolica? >> >> Robert >> >> Don Marinkovich <djedo@2z.net> wrote: >> My appologies to Heraldry. There were attachments that I missed. >> They are >> in cyrlic, but I might be able to get it translated. >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> CROATIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> "Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but not their own >> facts", Sen. >> Daniel Patrick Moynihan >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> CROATIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 20:02:49 EST > From: Tat417761@cs.com > Subject: Re: [CROATIA] introduction > To: croatia@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <c18.badfb97.32b5f139@cs.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > The name of the Zrinski family was SUBIC. Zrinski was later added > based on > the locality of their castle. > The male line ended with death of Petar's son Ivan IV Anton- 1709 > in prison. > > dr T.Former > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 20:33:44 -0500 > From: Robert <peregrine1@rogers.com> > Subject: Re: [CROATIA] introduction > To: croatia@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <200612170133.kBH1Xtlx010520@mail.rootsweb.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > > Thank You Dr. T. Former, > Please if you can, how is it that the name Zrinyi is carried on > to this day? > Robert P Stutsman > > > At 08:02 PM 12/16/2006, you wrote: >> The name of the Zrinski family was SUBIC. Zrinski was later added >> based on >> the locality of their castle. >> The male line ended with death of Petar's son Ivan IV Anton- 1709 >> in prison. >> >> dr T.Former >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> CROATIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> __________ NOD32 1924 (20061215) Information __________ >> >> This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. >> http://www.eset.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the CROATIA list administrator, send an email to > CROATIA-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the CROATIA mailing list, send an email to > CROATIA@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CROATIA- > request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of CROATIA Digest, Vol 1, Issue 43 > **************************************