Hello Robert THANKS. This adds allot to the little information I have. A friend told me about Rade leaving Germany on 2 Dec 1905 but I didn't know how to access the records in Germany for 1905. I checked the Stephen Morse web site for the three of them but only found Anna. I apparently didn't try enough ways of spelling Rutalj and Panjkovich. Mike's daughter is still living in Mayville, I'll have to ask her if her father had another name because Mike isn't a Croatian name. There religion was Serbian Orthodox. There was no Serbian Orthodox Church in Mayville so someone had to come from Milwaukee (about 50 miles)to baptize them. There were and still are allot of Croatian people in Mayville. Mayville had the first iron mine and mill in Wisconsin in 1848. The Croatian people came to work in the mine and mill. Were trying to translate some Serbian writing on some headstones. Is there any place I could get the translation done. I have a picture taken with my digital camera. Thanks Again Bill H. --- Robert Jerin <rjerin26@yahoo.com> wrote: > You are correct about Rade's year of arrival. Below > is info from the Port of Departure records from > Hamburg Germany, which gives his former residence as > Medak > > Rade RUTALJ Departed 2 Dec 1905 birthdate about > 1889 ports visited by the ship Dover, Bologne, New > York Ship Pretoria > > Using Stephen Morse's One Step Ellis > Island search for anyone arriving 1905 aboard the > Pretoria finds his name mistranscribed as Rade > BUTALY The manifest almost looks like a B instead > of a R... he is traveling with Marko CELIC age 48 > who was from Rudac... so Rudac may be where the > parish was located but it would appear he was from > Medak. Destination to an Uncle DEJANOVIC at > Jolliet, IL > > In regards to Morse's web page... it is the ONLY > way to go! Very user friendly and allows a plethera > of ways to search. > > http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/eidb/ellis.html > > Mike would not be a name found in Croatia, perhaps > he was Mihalj, Mile, Milan, Milos, etc. > > There are a few Mile (mistranscribed as Male in a > couple of cases) who had approximate birthdates > close to your "suspected" birth year for Mike... and > none listed neither Rudac nor Gospic as their former > residence But there is someone found at Ellis > Island listed as Jso (Iso) PANJKVIC arr Apr 1911 > from Raduc, age 17... destination Joliett, IL his > next of kin at Rudac is listed as his mother > Smiljana... which probably meant that his father had > died. > > Have you looked at the manifest for Anna RUKAVINA > that you mentioned? It states that she was from > Kuniza. There are 2 places by that name near Gospic, > one to the SW of Gospic and one to the NE of Gospic. > > However I believe she may be from the one located > SW of Gospic which is called Kania Gospiæka where > the phone book lists RUKAVINA ... which is a common > name in that part of Croatia... the root of the > name is ruka.... meaning arm. > > > http://www.tportal.hr/imenik/map.dll/image?l=4&x=2409092&y=4932730&cx=2409092&cy=4932730&w=640&h=410 > > LDS Church Family History Center has microfilm > church records for Gospic both Roman Catholic and > Orhodox and for Medak and Raduc they have Orthodox > records... only problem is they only go to 1850s. > > Note, they came from Croatia which was a Kingdom > under the old Habsburg Empire aka Austria Hungary. > > Robert Jerin > Croatian Heritage Museum > Cleveland Ohio > > william herman <waherman61@yahoo.com> wrote: > I'm looking for some of my relatives that came > from > the Austrian-Hungarian Empire (Croatia) in the early > 1900's. They came to Mayville Wisconsin. > > Rade Rutalj born 12 Feb 1889 in Ruduc. I don't know > when he came to the US but he may of came in 1905. > > Mike Panjkovich born 15 March 1892 in either Ruduc > or > Gospich. Mike came to the US in 1911. > > Anna Rukavina born 25 Jul 1891 in Gospich. She came > to > the US on 12 Apr 1912 aboard the SS La Touraline > from > Le Havre. She married Rade Rutalj in 1914 in > Mayville > Wisconsin. Rade died on 29 Jun 1921 and on 20 Jan > 1923 > Anna married Mike Panjkovich. > > Thank You > > Bill H. > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Need a quick answer? 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