Kurt, Names that I have in Dalj are Marija Krstanovic, in Nustar it is Ana Kramacek, another name that I have is Krstanovic in Dalj, in Sombor, Vojvodina there is a Marija Cacic and a Brace Kunic that are cousins. I, also, found a return address for an Ana Vinaj in Osizek. All these letters are in Croatian, not German and mom had some translated and made notes, but all I have from them is first names and I can't make the connections of who belonged to who. That is why I try to write to these people, but I am getting no where. There is an Evica Matkovic in Split, too. So, I get in a quandry over all this. Margaret ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kurt McCrary" <kurtmccrary@yahoo.com> To: <croatia@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 6:20 PM Subject: Re: [CROATIA] Phone Directories pre-WW2? Or NUSBRUCKER BRECHAC'sandLENHOFS in the area of Vukovar Hello Margaret, Whats there names Margaret? What families do you have in Nustar and Vukovar area? Best regards Kurt Jerome Buza <jeromebuza@cox.net> wrote: Hi Kurt, I always read you emails with interest being we think that our families knew each other either because of my Apatin roots or my Dalj roots. Margaret You mention Nustar and I have a cousin that lives in Nustar, but I get no replies when I write. I would be interested in a phone book listing, too. I know that she used to live on K. Tomislava (?) 10 at 56221 Nustar. They were still writing Jugoslvaja on their letters when they wrote to my mom and I have this in her things. I haven't found the other addresses yet except of Dalj. Margaret ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kurt McCrary" To: Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 1:55 PM Subject: [CROATIA] Phone Directories pre-WW2? Or NUSBRUCKER BRECHAC's andLENHOFS in the area of Vukovar Hello List, A couple questions............... Are there any Phone Directories pre-WW2 for the area of Vukovar or Vinkovci. Some of my family members like the Letts, Nussbruckers, Kalauners and Aments lived in Sotin, Tompojevci and Lovas, then families moved westward and lived in Villages of Nustar, Vinkovci, Andrijasevci and Retkovci and Southward to Tovarnik. I would like to see were they lived before WW2. Also looking for "any" information on the LENHOF's of the same area, Josef LENHOF b. about 1859 of Sotin is said to have married my Great Aunt Magdalena, b. January 21, 1878 Sotin. LENHOF's Second wife is believed to be Elizabeth See below.............. Also does anyone know the real name of the village of Vadcira? Vadcara? Vaderia? or Bacs UJLAR? Thank You Best regards Kurt NUSSBRUCKER ------------------------- Anton NUSSBRUCKER II m.2nd on 13-02-1849, Klara ABT ; b. 29-07-1830, dau. of Johann ABT and Elisabeth CZEL Children: 1)Johann (Ivan) NUSBRUCKER b. 3-10-1849 Kata STAMPFER of Sotin. 2)Maria NUSBRUCKER b.13-090-1851, d. 17-03-1856 3)Christina NUSBRUCKER b. 22-07-1853 4)Agatha NUSBRUCKER b. Novoselo 26-09-1855 m. in Sotin, June (Lipanj) 4, 1882 Karl TROUL of Lovas b.about 1858 in Tompojevci 5)Rosalia NUSBRUCKER b. 17-03-1858 Novoselo (Neudorf) m. Anton AMENT of Sotin. 6)Maria NUSBRUCKER b. 01-11-1859, d. 01-11-1859 7)Elisabeth NUSBRUCKER b.06-11-1860 8)George NUSBRUCKER b.7-06-1863 9)Anna NUSBRUCKER b.13 05-1866, d. 23-08-1867 10) Joseph NUSBRUCKER b. March 1, 1969 in Sotin m. Magdalena UNKNOWN lived Vukovar, moved to Andrijasevci, near Vinkovci (Also came to the USA). -------------------------------------------------------- Josef NUSSBRUCKER was born in Sotin about 1869 and moved to Andrijasevci in about 1905. He came to the USA in 1902 and 1907, (spelled his name Nusbricker in 1907) When he came in 1902 so did his wife Magdalena "Nussbruecker" It is not known if he stayed but probably returned to Andrijasevci near Vinkovci, Croatia. ================== Nussbrücker Cousins? ================== A likely NUSSBRUCKER Cousin is Franz "Musobruckar" NUSSBRUCKER was born in Baca Novo Selo, Yugoslavia about 1905 According to ELLIS ISLAND, came to the USA in 1921 his father was Daniel NUSSBRUCKER of Nowa selo, Batschka. Francz went to live with his Aunt Marie MELZDER 1063 Macland, Youngstown, OH There was a Frank Mosbrucker living in Arizona in about 1960's but we don't know if this is the same man. -------------------------------------------------------------- Family of Josef Lenhof ----------------=================== Joseph LEHNHOF seemed to go back and forth from Croatia to USA, between 1902 and 1920? he was friends or family of the AMENT's, WILLIG's BRECHACK's and the HOFFMANS went to Sharon PA. Then to Dayton, Ohio. We don't know if he died in Ohio or Croatia? I think he was in the 1920 Census, working or resident of a Hospital in OH. Josef LENHOF) lived in Youngstown,PA area. There is a record on the ship manifest "Argintina" for LEHNHOF, Josef age 50, arr March 26, 1909 from Setin (sic /SOTIN) had been in Youngstown 1901 to 1907. Josef LEHNHOF looks like he had cataract in left eye b'place Sotin he was traveling with 2 younger WILLING children , The children: Stefan 13 and Maria 16 yrs, destination "Aultman" Stark County, OH (Aultman (ghost town north of Canton south of Akron,) In 1914........... Lenhof, Josef of Vaderia, Hungary age 58 b. About 1856 arrived 1914 Ellis Island, b. Bacs UJLAR? went to Dayton Ohio as Parent of Johann Brechak person in old country Elizabeth LENHOF Vadcira? Vadcara? Vaderia? Elesabeth LENHOF of German descent came to America b. Sotin on the ship Nieuw Amsterdam, in 1920 age 64, she was the wife of Josef LENHOF he lived on Hughs street, Dayton Ohio She had blond hair and blue eyes 5'3 and traveled with a med cert. Was residing in Vucovocs (Vukovar) I wonder if this Elizabeth could also be "Magdalena"? Or could this be his second wife? ---------------------------- LEHNHOF NUSSBRUCKER / AMENT connection ============================ There is a ship manifest for Anton AMENT ethnic Hungary, German; ship La Bretagne from France; arr at Ellis IS. Jan. 3, 1910 (about 9 months after Joseph LENHOFs arrival in 1909), destination to brother in law, Josef LEHNOF in Sharon PA birthplace Sotin, age 25, above his occupation column there are numbers which were most likely his citizenship court record wife Rosina. His Brother in Law, Josef LENHOF address is 905 or 105. Anton AMENTs sister Magdalena may have been his half sister ? or their parents hadn't married at that time. ------------------------ Magdalena's birth record: =================================================== Magdalena born January 21, 1878 baptized January 22, 1878. Illegitimate (Nezakonit) daughter of Rosalia who was the daughter of Anton NUSSBRUCKER lived HNR # 130 Sotin witness's Magdalena SKULJAK daughter (k&#263;erka=kci) of Gjure SKULJAK and Katarina STUMPF of Sotin =================================================== --------------------------------- Don't get soaked. Take a quick peek at the forecast with theYahoo! 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Hi Karen, In terms of a start, there were some families with Cindric surname living and still do in Vrbovsko, Gorski Kotar. John Stefanac ----- Original Message ----- From: <khorne@adelphia.net> To: <croatia@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 7:20 AM Subject: Re: [CROATIA] CINDRIC - BOGOVIC > Thanks for this email, mentioning the CINDRICH name. I haven't gotten to > the point of looking outside US for my CINDRICH family. It gives me a > starting point to look for info and has gotten me excited about > researching this name finally! > > Do you have any info on this CINDRICH, who took the tour with you last > year? > > My CINDRIC family is John CINDRIC, b. 1870, d. 1961 - immigrated around > 1902 (from census info). John and his wife Mary BOGOVIC, b. 1873 settled > in Fayette County, PA. Their children were > > Michael b. 1904 married AMBROVICH (twin of Anna) > Anna b. 1904 married PLASKI > Mary , b. 1909 > Katherine, b. 1913 married DUFFY > Bertha, b. 1914 married HUDOC > >>From census info, I have decided that Mary & John may have left possibly 3 >>children in Europe when they came over. 1910 census shows 6 children / 6 >>living, married 16 years. Only have 3 children living with them and the >>oldest is 4. > > I have seen name spelled CINDRIC / CINDRICH / CINDRICK / CHINDRICH / > CHINDRICK. I have yet to order death certificates. > > Thanks and hope I make a connection > > Karen > > > ---- Robert Jerin <rjerin26@yahoo.com> wrote: >> Kurt, >> >> I had to think a bit more about this.... The difference was that the >> part of Croatia you mentioned had very rich farmland and attracted people >> from other parts of Croatia as well as Bohemia and Slovakia. I helped a >> man named CINDRICH once and was surprised that his GF came from Nova >> Petrovo Selo in the Posavina region.... I told him this surprised me as >> CINDRIC is from around Slunj/Cetingrad.... when he joined us for my tour >> last year he brought along a document ... a family tree of sorts... and >> indicated that his GGF was from Slunj.... so people did move to certain >> areas that were productive... > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CROATIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello Kurt, 1. Vinkovci is not a village, it is a town. It had its own hospital prior to WWI 2. The tel books probably would not help you much. Between the 2 wars even in Zagreb relatively well to do people: judges, university professors etc did not have a phone In the village (on vacation) we had to go to the post office- this was the only phone in the whole village. Since practically nobody had a phone, you did not miss it because there was nobody you could call. At times I am wondering how we managed to get appointments even dates? Tatjana.

In a message dated 4/6/2007 6:25:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time, prodan@alltel.net writes: > > Send them an american express money order during a holiday or > birthday, and/or a present from the US and I'll bet they'll start > writing... > Funny how "material things" tends to open people up.. > > You may be wrong. A problem we frequently found is, due to lack of > acknowledgement, we never knew whether the gift actually arrived. And with personal > checks, too proud to cash them, they did not return them or tell us what > happened, so we still had to carry them as expense. > It was a riddle, probably some kind of pride while they were considered > "poor" and we were of course "rich Americans".

My grandfather had a few choice words that almost defy translation.Repeating them would aways get me a mouth full of soap.I could never understand what the big deal it was until years later when my father attempted to translate for me! Soap was a light punishment. Nono was from Unija. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Jerin" <rjerin26@yahoo.com> To: <croatia@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 7:03 PM Subject: Re: [CROATIA] traffic is heavy > Hi Patty, > > Well I must tell you that as a young boy I spent much time with my > Grandparents on their farm in PA... and for many years I would repeat what > my Grandfather said when he was upset with his horses (later it was a > tractor)... I used this once when helping my Bosnian German friends on > their farm here in OH they looked at me as if they had seen a ghost... > they asked if I knew what this meant... and I said "no, but in light of > the fact that I was trying to fix their #$^%&^^&* hay bailer I felt it > appropriate" When they told me what it meant.... well, I haven't used it > since then... and to imagine my dear Grandfather said grace at each meal ! > Live and learn... > > Robert > "Reuter, Patty" <patty.reuter@highlandbanks.com> wrote: > Sorry. I was unaware. This is now the only bad word I know in Croatian. > > -----Original Message----- > From: croatia-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:croatia-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Don Marinkovich > Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 2:23 PM > To: croatia@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [CROATIA] traffic is heavy > > > I hated to say anything, but, tyou can't let the kid go on talking like > that. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robert Jerin" > To: > Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 2:07 PM > Subject: Re: [CROATIA] traffic is heavy > > >> Paty, >> >> Yes using wax is a more recent method but the oldest method was using >> onion skins and etching the design into the dye, exposing the lighter >> color of the shell. >> >> The tool is sometimes called a kiska.... pitchka (pic"ka) is a bad word >> at least in Croatian... but in Russian it is a little bird... >> >> Croatians call these eggs pisanica Ukraine is Pysanky >> >> http://cgi.ebay.com/Easter-Egg-Croatian-Hrvatska-Pisanica-Turkey-Egg-rmb_W0QQitemZ200096054773QQcategoryZ70975QQcmdZViewItem >> >> Robert >> >> "Reuter, Patty" > wrote: >> We do our eggs with bees wax and a pitchka. We dye them several different >> colors and then remove the beeswax and cover them with varnish. I think >> the word is Prisanice. Everyone I know calls them Ukranian. >> >> Many Blessings to all this Easter! >> >> Patty >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: croatia-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:croatia-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Robert Jerin >> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 1:02 PM >> To: croatia@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [CROATIA] traffic is heavy >> >> >> And once the eggs are dyed (traditional easter eggs were dyed raw without >> draining the yolk out... this was considered life and would never have >> been removed)... then you need to take a pin and etch a design into the >> color... crosses, tree of life, Croatian Grbs are commonly seen here in >> Cleveland. >> >> Sretan Uskrs >> >> Robert >> >> Jerome Buza wrote: >> That is true Tony, I received a blessing to learn so much from all the >> people that write on theses lists. Today I am dying our Easter eggs in >> Onion Skins and they turned out a beautiful copper color. Now I will make >> our "Angel Wings" or "torn pants", in Polish they are crustiki, and I >> will >> prepare our Easter basket of sausages, eggs, a butter lamb, and other >> goodies to be blessed at church tomorrow and Eaten on Easter Sunday. >> >> Happy Easter to all of you. >> God bless, Margaret >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "tony zugay" >> To: >> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 9:59 AM >> Subject: Re: [CROATIA] traffic is heavy >> >> >>> You got an Easter blessing. >>> Tony >>> On Apr 4, 2007, at 6:46 PM, Jerome Buza wrote: >>> >>>> A week or so ago, some one wrote and wondered where everyone was and >>>> it was >>>> suggested that people gave up their computers for Lent. In the past 3 >>>> or 4 >>>> days, I can't keep up with the mail. 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Send them an american express money order during a holiday or birthday, and/or a present from the US and I'll bet they'll start writing... Funny how "material things" tends to open people up... :) On Apr 6, 2007, at 6:21 PM, Jerome Buza wrote: Hi Kurt, I always read you emails with interest being we think that our families knew each other either because of my Apatin roots or my Dalj roots. You mention Nustar and I have a cousin that lives in Nustar, but I get no replies when I write. I would be interested in a phone book listing, too. I know that she used to live on K. Tomislava (?) 10 at 56221 Nustar. They were still writing Jugoslvaja on their letters when they wrote to my mom and I have this in her things. I haven't found the other addresses yet except of Dalj. Margaret

Hello Margaret, Whats there names Margaret? What families do you have in Nustar and Vukovar area? Best regards Kurt Jerome Buza <jeromebuza@cox.net> wrote: Hi Kurt, I always read you emails with interest being we think that our families knew each other either because of my Apatin roots or my Dalj roots. Margaret You mention Nustar and I have a cousin that lives in Nustar, but I get no replies when I write. I would be interested in a phone book listing, too. I know that she used to live on K. Tomislava (?) 10 at 56221 Nustar. They were still writing Jugoslvaja on their letters when they wrote to my mom and I have this in her things. I haven't found the other addresses yet except of Dalj. Margaret ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kurt McCrary" To: Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 1:55 PM Subject: [CROATIA] Phone Directories pre-WW2? Or NUSBRUCKER BRECHAC's andLENHOFS in the area of Vukovar Hello List, A couple questions............... Are there any Phone Directories pre-WW2 for the area of Vukovar or Vinkovci. Some of my family members like the Letts, Nussbruckers, Kalauners and Aments lived in Sotin, Tompojevci and Lovas, then families moved westward and lived in Villages of Nustar, Vinkovci, Andrijasevci and Retkovci and Southward to Tovarnik. I would like to see were they lived before WW2. Also looking for "any" information on the LENHOF's of the same area, Josef LENHOF b. about 1859 of Sotin is said to have married my Great Aunt Magdalena, b. January 21, 1878 Sotin. LENHOF's Second wife is believed to be Elizabeth See below.............. Also does anyone know the real name of the village of Vadcira? Vadcara? Vaderia? or Bacs UJLAR? Thank You Best regards Kurt NUSSBRUCKER ------------------------- Anton NUSSBRUCKER II m.2nd on 13-02-1849, Klara ABT ; b. 29-07-1830, dau. of Johann ABT and Elisabeth CZEL Children: 1)Johann (Ivan) NUSBRUCKER b. 3-10-1849 Kata STAMPFER of Sotin. 2)Maria NUSBRUCKER b.13-090-1851, d. 17-03-1856 3)Christina NUSBRUCKER b. 22-07-1853 4)Agatha NUSBRUCKER b. Novoselo 26-09-1855 m. in Sotin, June (Lipanj) 4, 1882 Karl TROUL of Lovas b.about 1858 in Tompojevci 5)Rosalia NUSBRUCKER b. 17-03-1858 Novoselo (Neudorf) m. Anton AMENT of Sotin. 6)Maria NUSBRUCKER b. 01-11-1859, d. 01-11-1859 7)Elisabeth NUSBRUCKER b.06-11-1860 8)George NUSBRUCKER b.7-06-1863 9)Anna NUSBRUCKER b.13 05-1866, d. 23-08-1867 10) Joseph NUSBRUCKER b. March 1, 1969 in Sotin m. Magdalena UNKNOWN lived Vukovar, moved to Andrijasevci, near Vinkovci (Also came to the USA). -------------------------------------------------------- Josef NUSSBRUCKER was born in Sotin about 1869 and moved to Andrijasevci in about 1905. He came to the USA in 1902 and 1907, (spelled his name Nusbricker in 1907) When he came in 1902 so did his wife Magdalena "Nussbruecker" It is not known if he stayed but probably returned to Andrijasevci near Vinkovci, Croatia. ================== Nussbrücker Cousins? ================== A likely NUSSBRUCKER Cousin is Franz "Musobruckar" NUSSBRUCKER was born in Baca Novo Selo, Yugoslavia about 1905 According to ELLIS ISLAND, came to the USA in 1921 his father was Daniel NUSSBRUCKER of Nowa selo, Batschka. Francz went to live with his Aunt Marie MELZDER 1063 Macland, Youngstown, OH There was a Frank Mosbrucker living in Arizona in about 1960's but we don't know if this is the same man. -------------------------------------------------------------- Family of Josef Lenhof ----------------=================== Joseph LEHNHOF seemed to go back and forth from Croatia to USA, between 1902 and 1920? he was friends or family of the AMENT's, WILLIG's BRECHACK's and the HOFFMANS went to Sharon PA. Then to Dayton, Ohio. We don't know if he died in Ohio or Croatia? I think he was in the 1920 Census, working or resident of a Hospital in OH. Josef LENHOF) lived in Youngstown,PA area. There is a record on the ship manifest "Argintina" for LEHNHOF, Josef age 50, arr March 26, 1909 from Setin (sic /SOTIN) had been in Youngstown 1901 to 1907. Josef LEHNHOF looks like he had cataract in left eye b'place Sotin he was traveling with 2 younger WILLING children , The children: Stefan 13 and Maria 16 yrs, destination "Aultman" Stark County, OH (Aultman (ghost town north of Canton south of Akron,) In 1914........... Lenhof, Josef of Vaderia, Hungary age 58 b. About 1856 arrived 1914 Ellis Island, b. Bacs UJLAR? went to Dayton Ohio as Parent of Johann Brechak person in old country Elizabeth LENHOF Vadcira? Vadcara? Vaderia? Elesabeth LENHOF of German descent came to America b. Sotin on the ship Nieuw Amsterdam, in 1920 age 64, she was the wife of Josef LENHOF he lived on Hughs street, Dayton Ohio She had blond hair and blue eyes 5'3 and traveled with a med cert. Was residing in Vucovocs (Vukovar) I wonder if this Elizabeth could also be "Magdalena"? Or could this be his second wife? ---------------------------- LEHNHOF NUSSBRUCKER / AMENT connection ============================ There is a ship manifest for Anton AMENT ethnic Hungary, German; ship La Bretagne from France; arr at Ellis IS. Jan. 3, 1910 (about 9 months after Joseph LENHOFs arrival in 1909), destination to brother in law, Josef LEHNOF in Sharon PA birthplace Sotin, age 25, above his occupation column there are numbers which were most likely his citizenship court record wife Rosina. His Brother in Law, Josef LENHOF address is 905 or 105. Anton AMENTs sister Magdalena may have been his half sister ? or their parents hadn't married at that time. ------------------------ Magdalena's birth record: =================================================== Magdalena born January 21, 1878 baptized January 22, 1878. Illegitimate (Nezakonit) daughter of Rosalia who was the daughter of Anton NUSSBRUCKER lived HNR # 130 Sotin witness's Magdalena SKULJAK daughter (k&#263;erka=kci) of Gjure SKULJAK and Katarina STUMPF of Sotin =================================================== --------------------------------- Don't get soaked. Take a quick peek at the forecast with theYahoo! 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Hello Tatjana, I realized it was not a Village, but I figured at one time it was so, I thought I would get away with the terminology. Sometimes in the woods in Michigan someone says there are going to town, might mean there going to the local village party store......... But from what I understand Vinkovci is actually a city within the Municipality (Township) of Vinkovci. So Thank You for pointing that out. Town http://encarta.msn.com/dictionary_/town.html Township http://encarta.msn.com/dictionary_1861721162/township.html Thats interesting..............Well no phones no phone book, another avenue shot down.........;-) Tell me did you have a address or a Post Office box? Did the postman deliver or did you have to pick up the mail? I asking I am wondering if the Post office kept a list of the residents and there address's? Thank You Kurt Tat417761@cs.com wrote: Hello Kurt, 1. Vinkovci is not a village, it is a town. It had its own hospital prior to WWI 2. The tel books probably would not help you much. Between the 2 wars even in Zagreb relatively well to do people: judges, university professors etc did not have a phone In the village (on vacation) we had to go to the post office- this was the only phone in the whole village. Since practically nobody had a phone, you did not miss it because there was nobody you could call. At times I am wondering how we managed to get appointments even dates? Tatjana. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CROATIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Bored stiff? Loosen up... Download and play hundreds of games for free on Yahoo! Games.

Somehow, Grandma and I always ended up dying the Uskers eggs on Saturday, probably about the same time the zeludac was boiling. She's much on my mind tonight as I bought the zeludac ingredients this afternoon and then got home too tired to mix it up. Late years I've been sewing muslin bags to boil it in, as it's very hard to find pig intestines without a lot of driving, and the muslin is actually easier to stuff since I make them 3 or 4 inches across. Grandma was a PETROVICH and BLAZEVICH from Sunger / Merkopalj, in the hills above Rijeka. Grandpa was a GRUBISIC / TOMICH from the same small village. Anybody out there who might be a cousin? Sretan Uskers, Ashley

Here is a discussion (article) on wikipedia about various languages and how they may end up being a nice word in one language but profanity in another... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Profanity On Apr 6, 2007, at 5:20 PM, Kurt McCrary wrote: Hello List, I am fairly familiar with bad words in English a couple in German, but don't think I know any in Croatian can someone send me some and there translation? Maybe I will remember them and now know there meaning.........;-) Thanks Kurt "Reuter, Patty" <patty.reuter@highlandbanks.com> wrote: Sorry. I was unaware. This is now the only bad word I know in Croatian. -----Original Message----- From: croatia-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:croatia-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Don Marinkovich Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 2:23 PM To: croatia@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CROATIA] traffic is heavy I hated to say anything, but, tyou can't let the kid go on talking like that. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Jerin" To: Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 2:07 PM Subject: Re: [CROATIA] traffic is heavy > Paty, > > Yes using wax is a more recent method but the oldest method was using > onion skins and etching the design into the dye, exposing the lighter > color of the shell. > > The tool is sometimes called a kiska.... pitchka (pic"ka) is a bad > word > at least in Croatian... but in Russian it is a little bird... > > Croatians call these eggs pisanica Ukraine is Pysanky > > http://cgi.ebay.com/Easter-Egg-Croatian-Hrvatska-Pisanica-Turkey- > Egg-rmb_W0QQitemZ200096054773QQcategoryZ70975QQcmdZViewItem > > Robert > > "Reuter, Patty" wrote: > We do our eggs with bees wax and a pitchka. We dye them several > different > colors and then remove the beeswax and cover them with varnish. I > think > the word is Prisanice. Everyone I know calls them Ukranian. > > Many Blessings to all this Easter! > > Patty > > -----Original Message----- > From: croatia-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:croatia-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Robert Jerin > Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 1:02 PM > To: croatia@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [CROATIA] traffic is heavy > > > And once the eggs are dyed (traditional easter eggs were dyed raw > without > draining the yolk out... this was considered life and would never have > been removed)... then you need to take a pin and etch a design into > the > color... crosses, tree of life, Croatian Grbs are commonly seen > here in > Cleveland. > > Sretan Uskrs > > Robert > > Jerome Buza wrote: > That is true Tony, I received a blessing to learn so much from all the > people that write on theses lists. Today I am dying our Easter eggs in > Onion Skins and they turned out a beautiful copper color. Now I > will make > our "Angel Wings" or "torn pants", in Polish they are crustiki, and > I will > prepare our Easter basket of sausages, eggs, a butter lamb, and other > goodies to be blessed at church tomorrow and Eaten on Easter Sunday. > > Happy Easter to all of you. > God bless, Margaret > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "tony zugay" > To: > Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 9:59 AM > Subject: Re: [CROATIA] traffic is heavy > > >> You got an Easter blessing. >> Tony >> On Apr 4, 2007, at 6:46 PM, Jerome Buza wrote: >> >>> A week or so ago, some one wrote and wondered where everyone was and >>> it was >>> suggested that people gave up their computers for Lent. In the >>> past 3 >>> or 4 >>> days, I can't keep up with the mail. 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Hi Patty, Well I must tell you that as a young boy I spent much time with my Grandparents on their farm in PA... and for many years I would repeat what my Grandfather said when he was upset with his horses (later it was a tractor)... I used this once when helping my Bosnian German friends on their farm here in OH they looked at me as if they had seen a ghost... they asked if I knew what this meant... and I said "no, but in light of the fact that I was trying to fix their #$^%&^^&* hay bailer I felt it appropriate" When they told me what it meant.... well, I haven't used it since then... and to imagine my dear Grandfather said grace at each meal ! Live and learn... Robert "Reuter, Patty" <patty.reuter@highlandbanks.com> wrote: Sorry. I was unaware. This is now the only bad word I know in Croatian. -----Original Message----- From: croatia-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:croatia-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Don Marinkovich Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 2:23 PM To: croatia@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CROATIA] traffic is heavy I hated to say anything, but, tyou can't let the kid go on talking like that. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Jerin" To: Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 2:07 PM Subject: Re: [CROATIA] traffic is heavy > Paty, > > Yes using wax is a more recent method but the oldest method was using > onion skins and etching the design into the dye, exposing the lighter > color of the shell. > > The tool is sometimes called a kiska.... pitchka (pic"ka) is a bad word > at least in Croatian... but in Russian it is a little bird... > > Croatians call these eggs pisanica Ukraine is Pysanky > > http://cgi.ebay.com/Easter-Egg-Croatian-Hrvatska-Pisanica-Turkey-Egg-rmb_W0QQitemZ200096054773QQcategoryZ70975QQcmdZViewItem > > Robert > > "Reuter, Patty" wrote: > We do our eggs with bees wax and a pitchka. We dye them several different > colors and then remove the beeswax and cover them with varnish. I think > the word is Prisanice. Everyone I know calls them Ukranian. > > Many Blessings to all this Easter! > > Patty > > -----Original Message----- > From: croatia-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:croatia-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Robert Jerin > Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 1:02 PM > To: croatia@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [CROATIA] traffic is heavy > > > And once the eggs are dyed (traditional easter eggs were dyed raw without > draining the yolk out... this was considered life and would never have > been removed)... then you need to take a pin and etch a design into the > color... crosses, tree of life, Croatian Grbs are commonly seen here in > Cleveland. > > Sretan Uskrs > > Robert > > Jerome Buza wrote: > That is true Tony, I received a blessing to learn so much from all the > people that write on theses lists. Today I am dying our Easter eggs in > Onion Skins and they turned out a beautiful copper color. Now I will make > our "Angel Wings" or "torn pants", in Polish they are crustiki, and I will > prepare our Easter basket of sausages, eggs, a butter lamb, and other > goodies to be blessed at church tomorrow and Eaten on Easter Sunday. > > Happy Easter to all of you. > God bless, Margaret > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "tony zugay" > To: > Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 9:59 AM > Subject: Re: [CROATIA] traffic is heavy > > >> You got an Easter blessing. >> Tony >> On Apr 4, 2007, at 6:46 PM, Jerome Buza wrote: >> >>> A week or so ago, some one wrote and wondered where everyone was and >>> it was >>> suggested that people gave up their computers for Lent. In the past 3 >>> or 4 >>> days, I can't keep up with the mail. 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Hi Kurt, I always read you emails with interest being we think that our families knew each other either because of my Apatin roots or my Dalj roots. You mention Nustar and I have a cousin that lives in Nustar, but I get no replies when I write. I would be interested in a phone book listing, too. I know that she used to live on K. Tomislava (?) 10 at 56221 Nustar. They were still writing Jugoslvaja on their letters when they wrote to my mom and I have this in her things. I haven't found the other addresses yet except of Dalj. Margaret ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kurt McCrary" <kurtmccrary@yahoo.com> To: <croatia@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 1:55 PM Subject: [CROATIA] Phone Directories pre-WW2? Or NUSBRUCKER BRECHAC's andLENHOFS in the area of Vukovar Hello List, A couple questions............... Are there any Phone Directories pre-WW2 for the area of Vukovar or Vinkovci. Some of my family members like the Letts, Nussbruckers, Kalauners and Aments lived in Sotin, Tompojevci and Lovas, then families moved westward and lived in Villages of Nustar, Vinkovci, Andrijasevci and Retkovci and Southward to Tovarnik. I would like to see were they lived before WW2. Also looking for "any" information on the LENHOF's of the same area, Josef LENHOF b. about 1859 of Sotin is said to have married my Great Aunt Magdalena, b. January 21, 1878 Sotin. LENHOF's Second wife is believed to be Elizabeth See below.............. Also does anyone know the real name of the village of Vadcira? Vadcara? Vaderia? or Bacs UJLAR? Thank You Best regards Kurt NUSSBRUCKER ------------------------- Anton NUSSBRUCKER II m.2nd on 13-02-1849, Klara ABT ; b. 29-07-1830, dau. of Johann ABT and Elisabeth CZEL Children: 1)Johann (Ivan) NUSBRUCKER b. 3-10-1849 Kata STAMPFER of Sotin. 2)Maria NUSBRUCKER b.13-090-1851, d. 17-03-1856 3)Christina NUSBRUCKER b. 22-07-1853 4)Agatha NUSBRUCKER b. Novoselo 26-09-1855 m. in Sotin, June (Lipanj) 4, 1882 Karl TROUL of Lovas b.about 1858 in Tompojevci 5)Rosalia NUSBRUCKER b. 17-03-1858 Novoselo (Neudorf) m. Anton AMENT of Sotin. 6)Maria NUSBRUCKER b. 01-11-1859, d. 01-11-1859 7)Elisabeth NUSBRUCKER b.06-11-1860 8)George NUSBRUCKER b.7-06-1863 9)Anna NUSBRUCKER b.13 05-1866, d. 23-08-1867 10) Joseph NUSBRUCKER b. March 1, 1969 in Sotin m. Magdalena UNKNOWN lived Vukovar, moved to Andrijasevci, near Vinkovci (Also came to the USA). -------------------------------------------------------- Josef NUSSBRUCKER was born in Sotin about 1869 and moved to Andrijasevci in about 1905. He came to the USA in 1902 and 1907, (spelled his name Nusbricker in 1907) When he came in 1902 so did his wife Magdalena "Nussbruecker" It is not known if he stayed but probably returned to Andrijasevci near Vinkovci, Croatia. ================== Nussbrücker Cousins? ================== A likely NUSSBRUCKER Cousin is Franz "Musobruckar" NUSSBRUCKER was born in Baca Novo Selo, Yugoslavia about 1905 According to ELLIS ISLAND, came to the USA in 1921 his father was Daniel NUSSBRUCKER of Nowa selo, Batschka. Francz went to live with his Aunt Marie MELZDER 1063 Macland, Youngstown, OH There was a Frank Mosbrucker living in Arizona in about 1960's but we don't know if this is the same man. -------------------------------------------------------------- Family of Josef Lenhof ----------------=================== Joseph LEHNHOF seemed to go back and forth from Croatia to USA, between 1902 and 1920? he was friends or family of the AMENT's, WILLIG's BRECHACK's and the HOFFMANS went to Sharon PA. Then to Dayton, Ohio. We don't know if he died in Ohio or Croatia? I think he was in the 1920 Census, working or resident of a Hospital in OH. Josef LENHOF) lived in Youngstown,PA area. There is a record on the ship manifest "Argintina" for LEHNHOF, Josef age 50, arr March 26, 1909 from Setin (sic /SOTIN) had been in Youngstown 1901 to 1907. Josef LEHNHOF looks like he had cataract in left eye b'place Sotin he was traveling with 2 younger WILLING children , The children: Stefan 13 and Maria 16 yrs, destination "Aultman" Stark County, OH (Aultman (ghost town north of Canton south of Akron,) In 1914........... Lenhof, Josef of Vaderia, Hungary age 58 b. About 1856 arrived 1914 Ellis Island, b. Bacs UJLAR? went to Dayton Ohio as Parent of Johann Brechak person in old country Elizabeth LENHOF Vadcira? Vadcara? Vaderia? Elesabeth LENHOF of German descent came to America b. Sotin on the ship Nieuw Amsterdam, in 1920 age 64, she was the wife of Josef LENHOF he lived on Hughs street, Dayton Ohio She had blond hair and blue eyes 5'3 and traveled with a med cert. Was residing in Vucovocs (Vukovar) I wonder if this Elizabeth could also be "Magdalena"? Or could this be his second wife? ---------------------------- LEHNHOF NUSSBRUCKER / AMENT connection ============================ There is a ship manifest for Anton AMENT ethnic Hungary, German; ship La Bretagne from France; arr at Ellis IS. Jan. 3, 1910 (about 9 months after Joseph LENHOFs arrival in 1909), destination to brother in law, Josef LEHNOF in Sharon PA birthplace Sotin, age 25, above his occupation column there are numbers which were most likely his citizenship court record wife Rosina. His Brother in Law, Josef LENHOF address is 905 or 105. Anton AMENTs sister Magdalena may have been his half sister ? or their parents hadn't married at that time. ------------------------ Magdalena's birth record: =================================================== Magdalena born January 21, 1878 baptized January 22, 1878. Illegitimate (Nezakonit) daughter of Rosalia who was the daughter of Anton NUSSBRUCKER lived HNR # 130 Sotin witness's Magdalena SKULJAK daughter (k&#263;erka=kci) of Gjure SKULJAK and Katarina STUMPF of Sotin =================================================== --------------------------------- Don't get soaked. Take a quick peek at the forecast with theYahoo! Search weather shortcut. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CROATIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Patty, it is not prisanice, it is pisanice. Sretan Uskrs svima Tatjana

Hello Natalie, Thank You for the link you sent me privately, the sayings were vulgar but some of them were hilarious, Tho I probably couldn't repeat them......... but I'l try ;-) Thanks Kurt Natalie Prodan <prodan@alltel.net> wrote: Here is a discussion (article) on wikipedia about various languages and how they may end up being a nice word in one language but profanity in another... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Profanity On Apr 6, 2007, at 5:20 PM, Kurt McCrary wrote: Hello List, I am fairly familiar with bad words in English a couple in German, but don't think I know any in Croatian can someone send me some and there translation? Maybe I will remember them and now know there meaning.........;-) Thanks Kurt "Reuter, Patty" wrote: Sorry. I was unaware. This is now the only bad word I know in Croatian. -----Original Message----- From: croatia-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:croatia-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Don Marinkovich Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 2:23 PM To: croatia@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CROATIA] traffic is heavy I hated to say anything, but, tyou can't let the kid go on talking like that. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Jerin" To: Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 2:07 PM Subject: Re: [CROATIA] traffic is heavy > Paty, > > Yes using wax is a more recent method but the oldest method was using > onion skins and etching the design into the dye, exposing the lighter > color of the shell. > > The tool is sometimes called a kiska.... pitchka (pic"ka) is a bad > word > at least in Croatian... but in Russian it is a little bird... > > Croatians call these eggs pisanica Ukraine is Pysanky > > http://cgi.ebay.com/Easter-Egg-Croatian-Hrvatska-Pisanica-Turkey- > Egg-rmb_W0QQitemZ200096054773QQcategoryZ70975QQcmdZViewItem > > Robert > > "Reuter, Patty" wrote: > We do our eggs with bees wax and a pitchka. We dye them several > different > colors and then remove the beeswax and cover them with varnish. I > think > the word is Prisanice. Everyone I know calls them Ukranian. > > Many Blessings to all this Easter! > > Patty > > -----Original Message----- > From: croatia-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:croatia-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Robert Jerin > Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 1:02 PM > To: croatia@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [CROATIA] traffic is heavy > > > And once the eggs are dyed (traditional easter eggs were dyed raw > without > draining the yolk out... this was considered life and would never have > been removed)... then you need to take a pin and etch a design into > the > color... crosses, tree of life, Croatian Grbs are commonly seen > here in > Cleveland. > > Sretan Uskrs > > Robert > > Jerome Buza wrote: > That is true Tony, I received a blessing to learn so much from all the > people that write on theses lists. Today I am dying our Easter eggs in > Onion Skins and they turned out a beautiful copper color. Now I > will make > our "Angel Wings" or "torn pants", in Polish they are crustiki, and > I will > prepare our Easter basket of sausages, eggs, a butter lamb, and other > goodies to be blessed at church tomorrow and Eaten on Easter Sunday. > > Happy Easter to all of you. > God bless, Margaret > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "tony zugay" > To: > Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 9:59 AM > Subject: Re: [CROATIA] traffic is heavy > > >> You got an Easter blessing. >> Tony >> On Apr 4, 2007, at 6:46 PM, Jerome Buza wrote: >> >>> A week or so ago, some one wrote and wondered where everyone was and >>> it was >>> suggested that people gave up their computers for Lent. In the >>> past 3 >>> or 4 >>> days, I can't keep up with the mail. On this account alone, between >>> the two >>> sites that I subscribe too because of my Grandparents families, I >>> now >>> have >>> 127 emails to read. >>> >>> Margaret >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> CROATIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> CROATIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CROATIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > To learn about my October 2007 Heritage and History tour of Croatia > http://www.croatia-in-english.com/rj/jerin2007.pdf > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CROATIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ______________________________________________________________________ > __ > This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs SkyScan > service. 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Sorry. I was unaware. This is now the only bad word I know in Croatian. -----Original Message----- From: croatia-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:croatia-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Don Marinkovich Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 2:23 PM To: croatia@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CROATIA] traffic is heavy I hated to say anything, but, tyou can't let the kid go on talking like that. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Jerin" <rjerin26@yahoo.com> To: <croatia@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 2:07 PM Subject: Re: [CROATIA] traffic is heavy > Paty, > > Yes using wax is a more recent method but the oldest method was using > onion skins and etching the design into the dye, exposing the lighter > color of the shell. > > The tool is sometimes called a kiska.... pitchka (pic"ka) is a bad word > at least in Croatian... but in Russian it is a little bird... > > Croatians call these eggs pisanica Ukraine is Pysanky > > http://cgi.ebay.com/Easter-Egg-Croatian-Hrvatska-Pisanica-Turkey-Egg-rmb_W0QQitemZ200096054773QQcategoryZ70975QQcmdZViewItem > > Robert > > "Reuter, Patty" <patty.reuter@highlandbanks.com> wrote: > We do our eggs with bees wax and a pitchka. We dye them several different > colors and then remove the beeswax and cover them with varnish. I think > the word is Prisanice. Everyone I know calls them Ukranian. > > Many Blessings to all this Easter! > > Patty > > -----Original Message----- > From: croatia-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:croatia-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Robert Jerin > Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 1:02 PM > To: croatia@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [CROATIA] traffic is heavy > > > And once the eggs are dyed (traditional easter eggs were dyed raw without > draining the yolk out... this was considered life and would never have > been removed)... then you need to take a pin and etch a design into the > color... crosses, tree of life, Croatian Grbs are commonly seen here in > Cleveland. > > Sretan Uskrs > > Robert > > Jerome Buza wrote: > That is true Tony, I received a blessing to learn so much from all the > people that write on theses lists. Today I am dying our Easter eggs in > Onion Skins and they turned out a beautiful copper color. Now I will make > our "Angel Wings" or "torn pants", in Polish they are crustiki, and I will > prepare our Easter basket of sausages, eggs, a butter lamb, and other > goodies to be blessed at church tomorrow and Eaten on Easter Sunday. > > Happy Easter to all of you. > God bless, Margaret > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "tony zugay" > To: > Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 9:59 AM > Subject: Re: [CROATIA] traffic is heavy > > >> You got an Easter blessing. >> Tony >> On Apr 4, 2007, at 6:46 PM, Jerome Buza wrote: >> >>> A week or so ago, some one wrote and wondered where everyone was and >>> it was >>> suggested that people gave up their computers for Lent. In the past 3 >>> or 4 >>> days, I can't keep up with the mail. 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I hated to say anything, but, tyou can't let the kid go on talking like that. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Jerin" <rjerin26@yahoo.com> To: <croatia@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 2:07 PM Subject: Re: [CROATIA] traffic is heavy > Paty, > > Yes using wax is a more recent method but the oldest method was using > onion skins and etching the design into the dye, exposing the lighter > color of the shell. > > The tool is sometimes called a kiska.... pitchka (pic"ka) is a bad word > at least in Croatian... but in Russian it is a little bird... > > Croatians call these eggs pisanica Ukraine is Pysanky > > http://cgi.ebay.com/Easter-Egg-Croatian-Hrvatska-Pisanica-Turkey-Egg-rmb_W0QQitemZ200096054773QQcategoryZ70975QQcmdZViewItem > > Robert > > "Reuter, Patty" <patty.reuter@highlandbanks.com> wrote: > We do our eggs with bees wax and a pitchka. We dye them several different > colors and then remove the beeswax and cover them with varnish. I think > the word is Prisanice. Everyone I know calls them Ukranian. > > Many Blessings to all this Easter! > > Patty > > -----Original Message----- > From: croatia-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:croatia-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Robert Jerin > Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 1:02 PM > To: croatia@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [CROATIA] traffic is heavy > > > And once the eggs are dyed (traditional easter eggs were dyed raw without > draining the yolk out... this was considered life and would never have > been removed)... then you need to take a pin and etch a design into the > color... crosses, tree of life, Croatian Grbs are commonly seen here in > Cleveland. > > Sretan Uskrs > > Robert > > Jerome Buza wrote: > That is true Tony, I received a blessing to learn so much from all the > people that write on theses lists. Today I am dying our Easter eggs in > Onion Skins and they turned out a beautiful copper color. Now I will make > our "Angel Wings" or "torn pants", in Polish they are crustiki, and I will > prepare our Easter basket of sausages, eggs, a butter lamb, and other > goodies to be blessed at church tomorrow and Eaten on Easter Sunday. > > Happy Easter to all of you. > God bless, Margaret > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "tony zugay" > To: > Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 9:59 AM > Subject: Re: [CROATIA] traffic is heavy > > >> You got an Easter blessing. >> Tony >> On Apr 4, 2007, at 6:46 PM, Jerome Buza wrote: >> >>> A week or so ago, some one wrote and wondered where everyone was and >>> it was >>> suggested that people gave up their computers for Lent. In the past 3 >>> or 4 >>> days, I can't keep up with the mail. 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Hello List, I am fairly familiar with bad words in English a couple in German, but don't think I know any in Croatian can someone send me some and there translation? Maybe I will remember them and now know there meaning.........;-) Thanks Kurt "Reuter, Patty" <patty.reuter@highlandbanks.com> wrote: Sorry. I was unaware. This is now the only bad word I know in Croatian. -----Original Message----- From: croatia-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:croatia-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Don Marinkovich Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 2:23 PM To: croatia@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CROATIA] traffic is heavy I hated to say anything, but, tyou can't let the kid go on talking like that. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Jerin" To: Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 2:07 PM Subject: Re: [CROATIA] traffic is heavy > Paty, > > Yes using wax is a more recent method but the oldest method was using > onion skins and etching the design into the dye, exposing the lighter > color of the shell. > > The tool is sometimes called a kiska.... pitchka (pic"ka) is a bad word > at least in Croatian... but in Russian it is a little bird... > > Croatians call these eggs pisanica Ukraine is Pysanky > > http://cgi.ebay.com/Easter-Egg-Croatian-Hrvatska-Pisanica-Turkey-Egg-rmb_W0QQitemZ200096054773QQcategoryZ70975QQcmdZViewItem > > Robert > > "Reuter, Patty" wrote: > We do our eggs with bees wax and a pitchka. We dye them several different > colors and then remove the beeswax and cover them with varnish. I think > the word is Prisanice. Everyone I know calls them Ukranian. > > Many Blessings to all this Easter! > > Patty > > -----Original Message----- > From: croatia-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:croatia-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Robert Jerin > Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 1:02 PM > To: croatia@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [CROATIA] traffic is heavy > > > And once the eggs are dyed (traditional easter eggs were dyed raw without > draining the yolk out... this was considered life and would never have > been removed)... then you need to take a pin and etch a design into the > color... crosses, tree of life, Croatian Grbs are commonly seen here in > Cleveland. > > Sretan Uskrs > > Robert > > Jerome Buza wrote: > That is true Tony, I received a blessing to learn so much from all the > people that write on theses lists. Today I am dying our Easter eggs in > Onion Skins and they turned out a beautiful copper color. Now I will make > our "Angel Wings" or "torn pants", in Polish they are crustiki, and I will > prepare our Easter basket of sausages, eggs, a butter lamb, and other > goodies to be blessed at church tomorrow and Eaten on Easter Sunday. > > Happy Easter to all of you. > God bless, Margaret > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "tony zugay" > To: > Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 9:59 AM > Subject: Re: [CROATIA] traffic is heavy > > >> You got an Easter blessing. >> Tony >> On Apr 4, 2007, at 6:46 PM, Jerome Buza wrote: >> >>> A week or so ago, some one wrote and wondered where everyone was and >>> it was >>> suggested that people gave up their computers for Lent. In the past 3 >>> or 4 >>> days, I can't keep up with the mail. 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That is funny to me as a "kiska" in Polish is their blood and barley sausage. so, different meanings for the same words depending on the language we are speaking. In Turkish, our word "peach" is a bad word. We were walking thru their market remarking about the big peaches and were told to say "seftali" as people thought we were swearing when we said "peach". Margaret ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Marinkovich" <djedo@2z.net> To: <croatia@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 12:22 PM Subject: Re: [CROATIA] traffic is heavy >I hated to say anything, but, tyou can't let the kid go on talking like > that. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robert Jerin" <rjerin26@yahoo.com> > To: <croatia@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 2:07 PM > Subject: Re: [CROATIA] traffic is heavy > > >> Paty, >> >> Yes using wax is a more recent method but the oldest method was using >> onion skins and etching the design into the dye, exposing the lighter >> color of the shell. >> >> The tool is sometimes called a kiska.... pitchka (pic"ka) is a bad word >> at least in Croatian... but in Russian it is a little bird... >> >> Croatians call these eggs pisanica Ukraine is Pysanky >> >> http://cgi.ebay.com/Easter-Egg-Croatian-Hrvatska-Pisanica-Turkey-Egg-rmb_W0QQitemZ200096054773QQcategoryZ70975QQcmdZViewItem >> >> Robert >> >> "Reuter, Patty" <patty.reuter@highlandbanks.com> wrote: >> We do our eggs with bees wax and a pitchka. We dye them several >> different >> colors and then remove the beeswax and cover them with varnish. I think >> the word is Prisanice. Everyone I know calls them Ukranian. >> >> Many Blessings to all this Easter! >> >> Patty >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: croatia-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:croatia-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Robert Jerin >> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 1:02 PM >> To: croatia@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [CROATIA] traffic is heavy >> >> >> And once the eggs are dyed (traditional easter eggs were dyed raw without >> draining the yolk out... this was considered life and would never have >> been removed)... then you need to take a pin and etch a design into the >> color... crosses, tree of life, Croatian Grbs are commonly seen here in >> Cleveland. >> >> Sretan Uskrs >> >> Robert >> >> Jerome Buza wrote: >> That is true Tony, I received a blessing to learn so much from all the >> people that write on theses lists. Today I am dying our Easter eggs in >> Onion Skins and they turned out a beautiful copper color. Now I will make >> our "Angel Wings" or "torn pants", in Polish they are crustiki, and I >> will >> prepare our Easter basket of sausages, eggs, a butter lamb, and other >> goodies to be blessed at church tomorrow and Eaten on Easter Sunday. >> >> Happy Easter to all of you. >> God bless, Margaret >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "tony zugay" >> To: >> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 9:59 AM >> Subject: Re: [CROATIA] traffic is heavy >> >> >>> You got an Easter blessing. >>> Tony >>> On Apr 4, 2007, at 6:46 PM, Jerome Buza wrote: >>> >>>> A week or so ago, some one wrote and wondered where everyone was and >>>> it was >>>> suggested that people gave up their computers for Lent. In the past 3 >>>> or 4 >>>> days, I can't keep up with the mail. 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Thanks Robert, the eggs I did got hard boiled in the pot with the onion skins. My mother and grandmother always did it this way, not with a raw egg. Thank you for this information. Margaret ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Jerin" <rjerin26@yahoo.com> To: <croatia@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 11:02 AM Subject: Re: [CROATIA] traffic is heavy > And once the eggs are dyed (traditional easter eggs were dyed raw without > draining the yolk out... this was considered life and would never have > been removed)... then you need to take a pin and etch a design into the > color... crosses, tree of life, Croatian Grbs are commonly seen here in > Cleveland. > > Sretan Uskrs > > Robert > > Jerome Buza <jeromebuza@cox.net> wrote: > That is true Tony, I received a blessing to learn so much from all the > people that write on theses lists. Today I am dying our Easter eggs in > Onion Skins and they turned out a beautiful copper color. Now I will make > our "Angel Wings" or "torn pants", in Polish they are crustiki, and I will > prepare our Easter basket of sausages, eggs, a butter lamb, and other > goodies to be blessed at church tomorrow and Eaten on Easter Sunday. > > Happy Easter to all of you. > God bless, Margaret > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "tony zugay" > To: > Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 9:59 AM > Subject: Re: [CROATIA] traffic is heavy > > >> You got an Easter blessing. >> Tony >> On Apr 4, 2007, at 6:46 PM, Jerome Buza wrote: >> >>> A week or so ago, some one wrote and wondered where everyone was and >>> it was >>> suggested that people gave up their computers for Lent. In the past 3 >>> or 4 >>> days, I can't keep up with the mail. On this account alone, between >>> the two >>> sites that I subscribe too because of my Grandparents families, I now >>> have >>> 127 emails to read. >>> >>> Margaret >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> CROATIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> CROATIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CROATIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > To learn about my October 2007 Heritage and History tour of Croatia > http://www.croatia-in-english.com/rj/jerin2007.pdf > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CROATIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello List, A couple questions............... Are there any Phone Directories pre-WW2 for the area of Vukovar or Vinkovci. Some of my family members like the Letts, Nussbruckers, Kalauners and Aments lived in Sotin, Tompojevci and Lovas, then families moved westward and lived in Villages of Nustar, Vinkovci, Andrijaševci and Retkovci and Southward to Tovarnik. I would like to see were they lived before WW2. Also looking for "any" information on the LENHOF's of the same area, Josef LENHOF b. about 1859 of Sotin is said to have married my Great Aunt Magdalena, b. January 21, 1878 Sotin. LENHOF's Second wife is believed to be Elizabeth See below.............. Also does anyone know the real name of the village of Vadcira? Vadcara? Vaderia? or Bacs UJLAR? Thank You Best regards Kurt NUSSBRUCKER ------------------------- Anton NUSSBRUCKER II m.2nd on 13-02-1849, Klara ABT ; b. 29-07-1830, dau. of Johann ABT and Elisabeth CZEL Children: 1)Johann (Ivan) NUSBRUCKER b. 3-10-1849 Kata STAMPFER of Sotin. 2)Maria NUSBRUCKER b.13-090-1851, d. 17-03-1856 3)Christina NUSBRUCKER b. 22-07-1853 4)Agatha NUSBRUCKER b. Novoselo 26-09-1855 m. in Sotin, June (Lipanj) 4, 1882 Karl TROUL of Lovas b.about 1858 in Tompojevci 5)Rosalia NUSBRUCKER b. 17-03-1858 Novoselo (Neudorf) m. Anton AMENT of Sotin. 6)Maria NUSBRUCKER b. 01-11-1859, d. 01-11-1859 7)Elisabeth NUSBRUCKER b.06-11-1860 8)George NUSBRUCKER b.7-06-1863 9)Anna NUSBRUCKER b.13 05-1866, d. 23-08-1867 10) Joseph NUSBRUCKER b. March 1, 1969 in Sotin m. Magdalena UNKNOWN lived Vukovar, moved to Andrijaševci, near Vinkovci (Also came to the USA). -------------------------------------------------------- Josef NUSSBRUCKER was born in Sotin about 1869 and moved to Andrijaševci in about 1905. He came to the USA in 1902 and 1907, (spelled his name Nusbricker in 1907) When he came in 1902 so did his wife Magdalena "Nussbruecker" It is not known if he stayed but probably returned to Andrijaševci near Vinkovci, Croatia. ================== Nussbrücker Cousins? ================== A likely NUSSBRUCKER Cousin is Franz "Musobruckar" NUSSBRUCKER was born in Baca Novo Selo, Yugoslavia about 1905 According to ELLIS ISLAND, came to the USA in 1921 his father was Daniel NUSSBRUCKER of Nowa selo, Batschka. Francz went to live with his Aunt Marie MELZDER 1063 Macland, Youngstown, OH There was a Frank Mosbrucker living in Arizona in about 1960's but we don't know if this is the same man. -------------------------------------------------------------- Family of Josef Lenhof ----------------=================== Joseph LEHNHOF seemed to go back and forth from Croatia to USA, between 1902 and 1920? he was friends or family of the AMENT's, WILLIG's BRECHACK's and the HOFFMANS went to Sharon PA. Then to Dayton, Ohio. We don't know if he died in Ohio or Croatia? I think he was in the 1920 Census, working or resident of a Hospital in OH. Josef LENHOF) lived in Youngstown,PA area. There is a record on the ship manifest "Argintina" for LEHNHOF, Josef age 50, arr March 26, 1909 from Setin (sic /SOTIN) had been in Youngstown 1901 to 1907. Josef LEHNHOF looks like he had cataract in left eye b'place Sotin he was traveling with 2 younger WILLING children , The children: Stefan 13 and Maria 16 yrs, destination "Aultman" Stark County, OH (Aultman (ghost town north of Canton south of Akron,) In 1914........... Lenhof, Josef of Vaderia, Hungary age 58 b. About 1856 arrived 1914 Ellis Island, b. Bacs UJLAR? went to Dayton Ohio as Parent of Johann Brechak person in old country Elizabeth LENHOF Vadcira? Vadcara? Vaderia? Elesabeth LENHOF of German descent came to America b. Sotin on the ship Nieuw Amsterdam, in 1920 age 64, she was the wife of Josef LENHOF he lived on Hughs street, Dayton Ohio She had blond hair and blue eyes 5'3 and traveled with a med cert. Was residing in Vucovocs (Vukovar) I wonder if this Elizabeth could also be "Magdalena"? Or could this be his second wife? ---------------------------- LEHNHOF NUSSBRUCKER / AMENT connection ============================ There is a ship manifest for Anton AMENT ethnic Hungary, German; ship La Bretagne from France; arr at Ellis IS. Jan. 3, 1910 (about 9 months after Joseph LENHOFs arrival in 1909), destination to brother in law, Josef LEHNOF in Sharon PA birthplace Sotin, age 25, above his occupation column there are numbers which were most likely his citizenship court record wife Rosina. His Brother in Law, Josef LENHOF address is 905 or 105. Anton AMENTs sister Magdalena may have been his half sister ? or their parents hadn't married at that time. ------------------------ Magdalena's birth record: =================================================== Magdalena born January 21, 1878 baptized January 22, 1878. Illegitimate (Nezakonit) daughter of Rosalia who was the daughter of Anton NUSSBRUCKER lived HNR # 130 Sotin witness's Magdalena SKULJAK daughter (k&#263;erka=kci) of Gjure SKULJAK and Katarina STUMPF of Sotin =================================================== --------------------------------- Don't get soaked. Take a quick peek at the forecast with theYahoo! Search weather shortcut.