I'm wondering if anyone out there has connections with that last name in the Wisconsin area. The particular town in West Allis, essentially part of the city of Milwaukee. My Great-grandmother was Helen POJE/POJI/POGE/POGI, and would have been born 1880ish (Grandma was born 1904). Helen's husband was Joseph ZALAR, Grandma was Amalia ZALAR, later changed to Mollie--I think when she was married. She became Mollie WRIGHT m to Jay Victor WRIGHT. Any info on connections or the origins of the name would be appreciated. Tom Wright

Any information the names of Papich/Polish would be greatly appreciated. Julie ---------------------------------------------------- Sign Up for NetZero Platinum Today Only $9.95 per month! http://my.netzero.net/s/signup?r=platinum&refcd=PT97

Seeking location/origin of John BOBNER, b. 05/15/1863 in Croatia; Immigrated to U.S.A. c.1886; Located in Pierce Co., Washington Territory; Married Helena Darovic 06/21/1888 in Tacoma, Terr. WA; Located in Carbonado, WA as a coal miner (Pierce Co. Census 1889); Located on Crego Hill, above Adna, WA, c. 1898 as a farmer; Children: Mary Catherine, Anna Madelin, Rudolph (nmn), Catherine, Frank, George (nmn), Louise, Josephine Francis and John, Jr., all deceased; d. 12/14/1943, buried at Mt. View Cemetery, Centralia, WA. Requester: Robt. S. Furrer, grandson.

Hi Leslie, Here is the info I said I would forward to you. Hope to hear from you soon. Best regards, Joseph --------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Joseph R Bosone <papajoeb@juno.com> To: frankur@worldnet.att.net Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2001 13:52:23 -0700 Subject: Re: [CROATIA-L] Surnames being researched Message-ID: <20011104.135226.-260349.0.papajoeb@juno.com> Hi Frank, First, thank you so very much for the immediate response. Some time ago, I received some information from a Sekulich in High Prairie, Alberta, Canada on ancestors of my father-in-law. Info as follows: ? Sekulich spouse ? Children Lawrence Sekulich Joseph Sekulich Mila Sekulich Tomic SEKULICH spouse ? Children Victor Sekulich Philip Sekulich Stephan SEKULICH spouse Helen Pavic Children Daniel Stephan SEKULICH (my wife's father) Following is information that we had prior to the above discovery: Daniel Stephan SEKULICH, DB December 15, 1893, PB Lovinac, Croatia, DD July 6, 1985, PD Red Lodge, Carbon County, MT, MD July 23, 1916, MP Lead, Lawrence County, SD, Spouse Mary Lillian KLEPICH, DB November 1, 1900, PB Lovinac, Croatia, DD August 17, 1988, PD Red Lodge, Carbon County, MT. Michael KLEPICH, DB September 29, 1873, PB Lovinac, Croatia, DD July 5, 1942, PD Red Lodge, Carbon Co., MT, MD July 23, 1898, MP Lovinac, Croatia, Spouse Lucy Ann ZDUNICH, DB December 13, 1877, PB Lovinac, Croatia, DD June 23, 1940, PD Red Lodge, Carbon Co., MT.. Children, born in Lovinac besides Mary Lillian KLEPICH, Peter Paul Klepich, DB June 29, 1902. They had other children that were born in the USA (Lead, SD and Red Lodge, MT). I have no idea when Dan Sekulich came to the USA, nor do I know when the Klepich family came here. We were told that Dan had a brother in Canada, but don't know his name nor where in Canada. Dan is listed in the Polk City Dir., Red Lodge, MT 1916 (N W & I Co.). This is a coal mine. Michael Klepich is listed in Polk City Dir., Red Lodge, MT 1919 (nipper). This is a job in the coal mine. We have been told that Mike and Lucy Klepich were in Duluth before going to Lead. Have no official records of this, however My family, BOSONE, came from the northern part of Italy (Feletto and Busano, Torino, Piemonte, Italy). Again, I want to thank you for responding to my initial "query". I hope the info above will help. Best regards, Joseph ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.

Hi Leslie, Some time ago I made contact with a man from High Prairie, Alberta, Canada, regarding the surname SEKULICH. He gave me quite a little information, which included my wife's great grandfather and other relatives. ? SEKULICH Spouse ? Children: Stephan SEKULICH spouse Helen PAVIC Children: Daniel Stephan SEKULICH (my wife's father) DB December 15, 1893 in Lovinac, Croatia DD July 6, 1985 in Red Lodge, Carbon Co., MT MD July 23, 1916 in Lead, Lawrence Co., SD spouse Mary Lillian Klepich Philip SEKULICH spouse ? Children: Stipan SEKULICH DB 1898 in ? spouse Kata PRPICH Children: Daniel SEKULICH spouse ? Children: Trever SEKULICH (This is the person that gave me the information. Trever lives in High Prairie, Alberta, Canada). Victor SEKULICH Tomic SEKULICH had three siblings, according to Trever. Namely, Joseph, Lawrence and Mila SEKULICH I am going to forward an e-mail that I sent to another party, regarding my wife's family. It will be easier than retyping the entire listing. Thank you so much for the response to my query. I appreciate it. Joseph R. Bosone Billings, MT ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.

Hi Joseph, Welcome to the Croatia list. I'm always thrilled when someone researching in Lovinac pops up. My grandfather Anton PRPIC was born in Lovinac in 1884; he and his brothers emigrated to North America in 1902, eventually settling near Kenaston, Saskatchewan. There are Lovinac SEKULICHes and ZDUNICHes among the Croatian community in Kenaston. I'm even related to some of them, although not closely. You will probably be interested in this message posted on the Rootsweb message boards. This fellow is also researching someone named SEKULICH from Lovinac. http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/jRC.2ACE/696.1967 I haven't done any research in the old country yet, so I can't be much help to you there. I am interested to know when your immigrant ancestor left Lovinac, and where they settled. Would love to hear more from you, Leslie in Victoria, BC

I am researching the surnames, SEKULICH, KLEPICH, and ZDUNICH. They were from the town of Lovinac. Any assistance will be greatly appreciated. Joseph ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.

Ashley: I've got a 1910 Milwaukee book with quite a few Schaeffers (none on 35th and no Michaels or Matts). Five Raiths however and four of them are Franks. None of the others connect. Frank lab h 353 Hamilton Frank cooper h 471 25th Frank Painter h 1176024th Frank Jr lab h 471025th John lab h 1176 24th That's the trouble with kids today - they don't know the meaning of the word "exotic"!!! Peg > From: Ashley Tiwara <grubisic@netwurx.net> > Reply-To: CROATIA-L@rootsweb.com > Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 22:42:25 -0600 > To: CROATIA-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [CROATIA-L] Spehar, Schefa, Schaeffer, Naleish, Raith in Milwaukee > Resent-From: CROATIA-L@rootsweb.com > Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 21:27:27 -0700 > > I'm hoping for some help from anyone recognizing these names: > SPEHAR, SCHEFA, SCHAEFFER, NALEISH, RAITH, all from 1907 in Milwaukee. Does > anyone reading this have a city directory for the approximate year, maybe even > 1910 in the city of Milwaukee? Could you do a lookup? > I've been trying to find information on my aunt's parents, not that she'd > ever thank me. When I do turn up a tidbit, she always seems very interested, > but never remembers what I've shown her, and her kids, my cousins, mostly only > want to know about the blond side of the family. Croatia is so far away and > everyone there has dark hair and swarthy skin, almost as though they're > gypsies. Could anything be worse? Ah, well, some of aunt's cousins ARE > interested and have been quite helpful. > In the interests of pure research then, I've tried to find my aunt's father > at Ellis Island. > The index has been touchy sometimes when I do searches, and previously I had > >> not turned him up. Tonight I found him as Mato SCHEFA of Novaki, Croatia ( >> near Virovitica ), possibly >> traveling with Franjo and Rosalia NALEISH, NALEUH of Novaki, both the couple >> and he going to Milwaukee. The handwriting is rather hard to read, Mato is >> clearly 27 but it was transcribed as age 22. At least on this page of the >> manifest, no one else is from Novaki, just these 3. >> They are going to join: >> Franjo brother Josef ZAREC >> Rosalie friend Franjo RAITH >> both of those at 219 First Avenue, Milwaukee >> Mato friend Miha SPEHAR >> AT 99 1/2 N. 7th Street, Milwaukee >> >> Big question: have any of you ever heard of any of these names? >> >> One of my frustrations is that the Sefer/Schaeffer line stops at Matt, >> going back. I'm certain he has relatives, I just haven't turned them up. >> Perhaps he even has a sister or brother in Milwaukee. At the time he >> emigrated, his wife and eldest son were left behind in Novaki. That son >> recently died in Milwaukee and my aunt is elderly and has only one sister, in >> poor health, left. It would please me greatly to tell her of lost cousins >> found. I'd welcome suggestions for further searches but would particularly >> delight in hearing from someone linked with these names above. > > Mato became Matt SCHAEFFER in Milwaukee. This may be a name connected with > Michael SCHAEFER of the former bakery on 35th Street, originating in the same > part of Croatia, but if so the two families have lost the connection. > > Can you help put the links together? > >> >> >> Half excitedly, >> Ashley >

Hi there, Has anyone heard of a Wojeck or Wojcek in Croatia...Around Slavonski Brod or Zagreb. Thanks and regards, Tony

While looking up my aunt's family, SAFER/ SEFER/ SCHEFA/ SCHAEFFER, at Ellis Island, I ran across some names in the manifest I recall vaguely someone on this list looking for. Anyone interested in Joseph MAJIC, possibly MAGIC or MAYIC in the USA? Joseph arrived on April 13, 1907, via the SS. Potsdam, from Zakovac, maybe Zvehovac, Croatia, headed for his cousin Petar Ljubojevic in Stambough, Michigan. A few lines further down, another LJUBOJEVIC was headed fro Brazil, Iowa, to visit his brother Pete. One cannot not wonder if these Ljubojevic names are connected, also. Hoping the Majic family sees this and recognizes the names, Ashley

I'm hoping for some help from anyone recognizing these names: SPEHAR, SCHEFA, SCHAEFFER, NALEISH, RAITH, all from 1907 in Milwaukee. Does anyone reading this have a city directory for the approximate year, maybe even 1910 in the city of Milwaukee? Could you do a lookup? I've been trying to find information on my aunt's parents, not that she'd ever thank me. When I do turn up a tidbit, she always seems very interested, but never remembers what I've shown her, and her kids, my cousins, mostly only want to know about the blond side of the family. Croatia is so far away and everyone there has dark hair and swarthy skin, almost as though they're gypsies. Could anything be worse? Ah, well, some of aunt's cousins ARE interested and have been quite helpful. In the interests of pure research then, I've tried to find my aunt's father at Ellis Island. The index has been touchy sometimes when I do searches, and previously I had > not turned him up. Tonight I found him as Mato SCHEFA of Novaki, Croatia ( > near Virovitica ), possibly > traveling with Franjo and Rosalia NALEISH, NALEUH of Novaki, both the couple > and he going to Milwaukee. The handwriting is rather hard to read, Mato is > clearly 27 but it was transcribed as age 22. At least on this page of the > manifest, no one else is from Novaki, just these 3. > They are going to join: > Franjo brother Josef ZAREC > Rosalie friend Franjo RAITH > both of those at 219 First Avenue, Milwaukee > Mato friend Miha SPEHAR > AT 99 1/2 N. 7th Street, Milwaukee > > Big question: have any of you ever heard of any of these names? > > One of my frustrations is that the Sefer/Schaeffer line stops at Matt, > going back. I'm certain he has relatives, I just haven't turned them up. > Perhaps he even has a sister or brother in Milwaukee. At the time he > emigrated, his wife and eldest son were left behind in Novaki. That son > recently died in Milwaukee and my aunt is elderly and has only one sister, in > poor health, left. It would please me greatly to tell her of lost cousins > found. I'd welcome suggestions for further searches but would particularly > delight in hearing from someone linked with these names above. Mato became Matt SCHAEFFER in Milwaukee. This may be a name connected with Michael SCHAEFER of the former bakery on 35th Street, originating in the same part of Croatia, but if so the two families have lost the connection. Can you help put the links together? > > > Half excitedly, > Ashley

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Jaksha, Anton Spouse: Spehar, Francis Marriage Date: 16 January 1917 City: Calumet County: State: MI Spanish-American Family History Guide Viewing records 1-2 of 2 Matches General Information 1990 CENSUS LIST OF SURNAMES WITH RANKINGS Spehar 31085 George Spehar Age: 26 State: PA Color: W;W Enumeration District: 0387 Birth Place: Austria Visit: 0162 County: Allegheny, Pittsburgh Relation: Boarder Other Residents: Head of Household Peter Rogina ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Joseph Spehar Age: 37 State: PA Color: W Enumeration District: 0607 Birth Place: Austria Visit: 0158 County: Allegheny, Pittsburgh Relation: Head of Household Other Residents: Wife Josephine 30, Austria Son Victor 09, Pennsylvania Daughter Annie 08, Pennsylvania Son Charles 04, Pennsylvania Daughter Bertha NR, Pennsylvania Daughter Elizabeth NR, Pennsylvania ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Katie Spehar Age: 37 State: PA Color: W Enumeration District: 0607 Birth Place: Austria Visit: 0123 County: Allegheny, Pittsburgh Relation: Head of Household Other Residents: Son George 07, Pennsylvania Daughter Mary 09, Pennsylvania Daughter Katie 05, Pennsylvania Daughter Rosie 03, Pennsylvania Son Joseph NR, Pennsylvania 5 non-relatives ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Stephan Spehar Age: 27 State: PA Color: W Enumeration District: 0607 Birth Place: Austria Visit: 0165 County: Allegheny, Pittsburgh Relation: Head of Household Other Residents: Wife Mary 22, Austria Son Frank 02, Pennsylvania Stanley Spehar Age: 35 State: OH Color: W Enumeration District: 0110 Birth Place: HUN Visit: 0441 County: Mahoning, Youngstown Relation: Head of Household Other Residents: Relation Name Color Age Birth Place Wife Agnes 30 HUN 10 non-relatives Mary A Spehar Birth: 9 December 1907-- Beaverhead, Dillon, MT Death: 29 May 1973 -- Spouse: A Spehar John Parents: Marof Nicholas, Antonia ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Frank J Spehar Birth: 14 April 1910-- Beaverhead, Dillon, MT Death: 22 November 1979 -- Spouse: O Spehar Mildred Parents: Marof Nicholas, Antonia ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- John Spehar Birth: 8 June 1907-- Beaverhead, Dillon, MT Death: February 1977 -- Spouse: Spehar Murial Parents: A Sweet John, Anna ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Mary Spehar Birth: 24 March 1905-- Silver Bow, Butte, MT Death: 15 May 1992 -- Spouse: Spehar Frank Parents: A Sweet John, Anna WWI Civilian Draft Registrations Viewing records 1-2 of 2 Matches Name Birth Date Ethnicity Birth Place City/County State George Spehar 16 Apr 1888 W Gorence Hroaustro Austria Gunnison CO John Spehar 24 Apr 1873 W naturalized citizen Shoshone ID 1870 SPEHAR HENRY** Cook County IL 496 14 W. Chicago Federal Population Schedule IL 1870 Federal Census Index IL017112359 New York City Immigrants (Austria, Galicia, Poland), 1890 Viewing records 1-9 of 9 Matches Given Name Family Name Soundex Roll# Ship Ship# NY Arrival Line# Abbr Ignatz SPEHAR S160 550 Trave 877 18900621 666 w Janko SPEHAR S160 550 Trave 877 18900621 668 w Johann SPEHAR S160 549 Eider 776 18900603 435 Klaz. SPEHAR S160 544 Eider 303 18900311 397 Miko SPEHAR S160 559 La Champagne 1773 18901201 292 Stanko SPEHAR S160 550 Trave 877 18900621 665 w Stanko, Jr. SPEHAR S160 550 Trave 877 18900621 669 w Stef. SPEHAR S160 549 Westernland 823 18900611 626 Valentin SPEHAR S160 550 Trave 877 18900621 667 w Minnesota Naturalization Records Index Viewing records 1-10 of 28 Matches Next 10>> Page: 1 2 3 Spehar, Steve County: Ely Reel: 1 Code: 352 Volume: 3 Page: 194 Operator: CONRA Date: 31 December 1991 Time: 09:51 Document Type: Years: Numbers: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Spehar, Stipe County: Ely Reel: 2 Code: 354 Volume: 5 Page: 39 Operator: CONRA Date: 31 December 1991 Time: 11:37 Document Type: Years: Numbers: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Spehar, Stipe County: Ely Reel: 4 Code: 363 Volume: 7 Page: 56 Operator: CONRA Date: 15 January 1992 Time: 11:55 Document Type: Years: Numbers: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Spehar, Stipe (Steve) County: Ely Reel: 5 Code: 367 Volume: ORDG Page: 15 Operator: CONRA Date: 21 January 1992 Time: 13:14 Document Type: Years: Numbers: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Spehar, John County: Duluth Reel: 31 Code: 76 Volume: 7 Page: 400 Operator: CBP Date: 23 March 1989 Time: 14:09 Document Type: Years: Numbers: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Spehar, Peter County: Duluth Reel: 35 Code: 84 Volume: 15 Page: 452 Operator: CBP Date: 24 April 1989 Time: 13:42 Document Type: Years: Numbers: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Spehar, Jozef County: Virginia Reel: 4 Code: 209 Volume: 7 Page: 9 Operator: CBP Date: 14 February 1990 Time: 13:28 Document Type: Years: Numbers: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Spehar, Nickolas County: Virginia Reel: 5 Code: 211 Volume: 9 Page: 220 Operator: CBP Date: 06 March 1990 Time: 14:40 Document Type: Years: Numbers: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Spehar, George County: Virginia Reel: 8 Code: 217 Volume: 15 Page: 102 Operator: CBP Date: 14 May 1990 Time: 11:03 Document Type: Years: Numbers: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Spehar, John County: Virginia Reel: 10 Code: 223 Volume: 21 Page: 439 Operator: CBP Date: 06 June 1990 Time: 14:42 Document Type: Years: Numbers: Spehar, Nicholas County: Virginia Reel: 11 Code: 224 Volume: 22 Page: 94 Operator: CBP Date: 11 June 1990 Time: 10:57 Document Type: Years: Numbers: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Spehar, Peter County: Virginia Reel: 22 Code: 240 Volume: 9 Page: 93 Operator: CBP Date: 05 July 1990 Time: 13:21 Document Type: Years: Numbers: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Spehar, Nikala County: Virginia Reel: 25 Code: 243 Volume: 12 Page: 205 Operator: CBP Date: 10 July 1990 Time: 10:58 Document Type: Years: Numbers: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Spehar, Anna Adlesic County: Virginia Reel: 36 Code: 254 Volume: 23 Page: 116 Operator: CBP Date: 07 August 1990 Time: 11:24 Document Type: Years: Numbers: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Spehar, John County: Virginia Reel: 36 Code: 254 Volume: 23 Page: 194 Operator: CBP Date: 07 August 1990 Time: 11:53 Document Type: Years: Numbers: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Spehar, Nicholas County: Virginia Reel: 37 Code: 256 Volume: 24.5 Page: 150 Operator: CBP Date: 09 August 1990 Time: 08:40 Document Type: Years: Numbers: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Spehar, Lucija County: Virginia Reel: 44 Code: 273 Volume: 36 Page: 55 Operator: CBP Date: 16 August 1990 Time: 08:26 Document Type: Years: Numbers: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Spehar, Lucija (Lucy) County: Virginia Reel: 50 Code: 290 Volume: OR Page: 75 Operator: CBP Date: 12 September 1990 Time: 07:03 Document Type: Years: Numbers: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Spehar, Nickolas County: Virginia Reel: 44 Code: 273 Volume: 36 Page: 55 Operator: CBP Date: 19 September 1990 Time: 10:48 Document Type: Years: Numbers: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Spehar, Rosi County: Virginia Reel: 37 Code: 256 Volume: 24.5 Page: 150 Operator: CBP Date: 24 September 1990 Time: 10:08 Document Type: Years: Numbers: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Spehar, John County: Virginia Reel: 36 Code: 254 Volume: 23 Page: 116 Operator: CBP Date: 24 September 1990 Time: 11:16 Document Type: Years: Numbers: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Spehar, Annie County: Virginia Reel: 36 Code: 254 Volume: 23 Page: 194 Operator: CBP Date: 24 September 1990 Time: 11:33 Document Type: Years: Numbers: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Spehar, Anna County: Virginia Reel: 29 Code: 247 Volume: 16 Page: 70 Operator: CBP Date: 04 October 1990 Time: 08:32 Document Type: Years: Numbers: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Spehar, Lucy County: Virginia Reel: 25 Code: 243 Volume: 12 Page: 205 Operator: CBP Date: 08 October 1990 Time: 11:24 Document Type: Years: Numbers: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Spehar, Lucy County: Virginia Reel: 11 Code: 224 Volume: 22 Page: 94 Operator: CBP Date: 23 October 1990 Time: 11:11 Document Type: Years: Numbers: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Spehar, John County: Virginia Reel: 10 Code: 223 Volume: 21 Page: 421 Operator: CBP Date: 27 October 1990 Time: 11:39 Document Type: Years: Numbers: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Spehar, Anna County: Virginia Reel: 10 Code: 223 Volume: 21 Page: 439 Operator: CBP Date: 27 October 1990 Time: 11:41 Document Type: Years: Numbers: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Spehar, Anna County: Virginia Reel: 8 Code: 217 Volume: 15 Page: 102 Operator: CBP Date: 05 November 1990 Time: 11:02 Document Type: Years: Numbers: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----

Kevin, I have been a subscriber for years. The service is spotty. I do think and have been serviced better by Genealogy.Com. In any event, here is my two bits worth. Ancestry owns Rootsweb which is excellent for what it does. Actually, there is no one else quite as complete as Rootsweb, again for what they do which is extensive. The Ancestry effort on census digitization has been so-so with hard to use indexes. I actually got more value from them before their great drive for digitizing census data. One area that I have been consistently disappointed with is the Ancestry CD's. I find them difficult, lacking in quality and data depth and a true waste of money. Their My Family site has worked well for me as a family web site although it just went form being free to $15-20 per year. I actually belong to a number of discrete sites hosted by My Family that are affiliated with joint-family web sites. I belong to several because, despite some overlap, each has some unique features that I use. Dick Puz

Didn't find anything there on my Croatian ancestors or the German ones. I found the census info to be missing a lot (black pages) and very difficult to see (not searchable). I found the CD's at my local LDS site which was searchable and printable - much much better. As far as being a weekly 'winner' on ancestralfindings.com, an affiliate of ancestry.com I think it must be a scam or sorts. I was a 'winner' and have emailed them 4 times to fine out how to access the site for the 'free' lookups and have as yet received no response. Sorry, but my experience has not been good. Gert ----- Original Message ----- From: "K. Doyle" <kdoyle@charter.net> To: <CROATIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 4:20 PM Subject: [CROATIA-L] Ancestry.com Opinions? > Hi all > > I was just wondering if anyone is a subscriber to ancestry.com and what > their opinions of the service are. Also, do they have any documents from > the Slavic areas? > > Thanks > > Kevin > > *------------------------------------------------* > You plant the wars you masters of men > plan the wars and point the way > and we will point the gun. > >

I have a subscription and have used the Census images. Other than that, I have had no luck with finding anything related to my Slovenian/Croatian genealogy. Kathy ----- Original Message ----- From: "K. Doyle" <kdoyle@charter.net> To: <CROATIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 4:20 PM Subject: [CROATIA-L] Ancestry.com Opinions? > Hi all > > I was just wondering if anyone is a subscriber to ancestry.com and what > their opinions of the service are. Also, do they have any documents from > the Slavic areas? > > Thanks > > Kevin > > *------------------------------------------------* > You plant the wars you masters of men > plan the wars and point the way > and we will point the gun. > > >

Hi all I was just wondering if anyone is a subscriber to ancestry.com and what their opinions of the service are. Also, do they have any documents from the Slavic areas? Thanks Kevin *------------------------------------------------* You plant the wars you masters of men plan the wars and point the way and we will point the gun.

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Roanne, Gee, thank you very much for getting the look up. I very much appreciate your effort. You have gone the extra mile and you have my thanks. Dick Puz

Thanks for sharing the information on the Puz family. I would appreciate any information on the Tetlo family. Perhaps your "kind soul" would like to look them up and reply here or to my email acocella@gmx.net. Thanks in advance. Frank At 12:47 PM -0800 29/10/01, you wrote: >I found a find soul to do a look-up for me in >the "Leksik Prezimena Socijalisticke Republike >Hrvatske", the 1948 Croatian census, here are >the results: > >Puz' were numerous and mostly around Rijeka. > >First number is number of people, 2nd number in ( ) is number >of households in village. > >There were 25 Puz in 8 families in Rijeka. >Blagorodovac (Daruvar) 4 >Brajani (Rijeka) 9( in 3 families) >Bregi (Koprivnica) 1 >Bregi (Rijeka) 25(7) >Bres'ca (Rijeka) 21(4) >Brgud (Rijeka)10(1) >Bukevje (Velika Gorica) 4(1) >Dobrovac (Pakrac) 1 >Franc''ic'i (Pakrac) 4(3) >Gorupec (Ivanec) 13(2) >Jugi gornji (Rijeka) 8(1) >Jurdani (Rijeka) 2(1) >Jurdanic'i (Rijeka)11(29 >Jus'ic'i (Rijeka) 8(3) >Kastav (Rijeka) 7(2) >Klenovnik (Ivanec) 9(2) >Koprivnica 11(2) >Koprivnic''ki Ivanec (Koprivnica)3(1) >Kostanjevac (Gares'nica) 3(1) >Kuc'eli Gornji (Rijeka) 14(4) >Kukuljanovo ((Rijeka) 1 >Kunove (Koprivnica) 7(1) >Ludbreg 1 >Mala Mlinska (Gares'nica) 3(1) >Matulji (Rijeka) 13(4) >Mikotic'i (Rijeka) 15(5) >Muc''ic'i (Rijeka)7(1) >Mune Male (Rijeka) 3(1) >Nova Plos'c''ica (Gares'nica) 10(3) >Oborovski Novaki (Dugo selo) 37(10) >Opatija 54(19) >Orlovac (Bjelovar) 1 >Perenic'i (Rijeka) 5(2) >Permani (Rijeka) 3(1) >Pobri (Rijeka) 21(9) >Poljane (Rijeka) 3(2) >Puhari (Rijeka) 6(1) >Puz'i (Rijeka) 5(2) >Rijeka 43(14) >Rubes'i (Rijeka) 9(2) >Rukavac Gornji (Rijeka) 5(2) >Rukavac Donji (Rijeka) 4(1) >Ruz'ic'i (Rijeka) 2 >Spinc''ic'i (Rijeka)4(2) >Studena (Rijeka)3(1) >Sus'nji (Rijeka)1 >S'krapna (Rijeka)1 >Trinajstic'i (Rijeka) 3(1) >Veprinac (Rijeka) 8(3) >Zagreb 11(4) >Zaluki (Rijeka) 55(13) >Zvonec'a (Rijeka) 6(2) >There are some more in smaller groups in other parts of Croatia. > >Roanne -- -- _--_|\ -- Frank Acocella (acocella@gmx.net): ---- / \ "Never argue with a fool -  X_.--._/ your audience may not be able to tell ------- v ----------- the difference." -------------