hi! when i called and asked for sylvie, they told me that sylvie handles slovakia, not croatia. my understanding is that thomas edlund handles the croatian area. Frank Kurchina wrote: > Tania & John Mahoney wrote: > > > > Hi Paul > > > > This lady Sylvie has helped me with the film numbers for Korcula. I think > > she is the international person re films at the LDS church head office . > > > > Her email is attached also the family search site is www.familysearch.org > > and on this you can put in a place and it will give you film numbers. They > > have recently added new films that are not online last time I looked, they > > are the ones I got from Sylvie. > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > Regards Tania Mahoney (nee Matulovich) > > PysnakovaSx@ldschurch.org > > Yes. > > There is also a International desk 800 number for LDS HQ in Salt Lake > City UT USA. > > You can ask Sylvie Pysnaková where the LDS microfilm numbers for Marija > Bistrica might be located ? > >From US a toll free number 1-800-453-3860, extension 2881. > > => (1707-1920) <= > Metrical books (births, marriages, deaths, status animarum) for the > Roman Catholic congregation at Marija Bistrica, Zágráb megye, Hungary; > now Marija Bistrica, Croatia. > Text in Latin and Croatian. > (under 10 microfilm numbers in the FHL catalog) > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Paul F. Kisak" <kki@visuallink.com> > > To: <CROATIA-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 12:21 PM > > Subject: [CROATIA-L] LDS question > > > > Hello Frank, > > > > Do you or anybody else have any idea > > where I could go to have the best chance of > > finding these LDS records. > > > > Can you check on line for locations that carry the films numbers? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Paul > > > > The LDS filmed the R.C. parish church records (1707-1920) > > for Marija Bistrica, Zágráb, Hungary; now Marija Bistrica, > > Croatia. > > (Marija Bistrica is located 16 miles NNE of Zagreb (city) > > Text in Latin and Croatian. > > > > film # > > 1536611-1536615 > > 1922158-1922163

Hi Paul This lady Sylvie has helped me with the film numbers for Korcula. I think she is the international person re films at the LDS church head office . Her email is attached also the family search site is www.familysearch.org and on this you can put in a place and it will give you film numbers. They have recently added new films that are not online last time I looked, they are the ones I got from Sylvie. Hope this helps. Regards Tania Mahoney (nee Matulovich) PysnakovaSx@ldschurch.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul F. Kisak" <kki@visuallink.com> To: <CROATIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 12:21 PM Subject: [CROATIA-L] LDS question Hello Frank, Do you or anybody else have any idea where I could go to have the best chance of finding these LDS records. Can you check on line for locations that carry the films numbers? Thanks, Paul The LDS filmed the R.C. parish church records (1707-1920) for Marija Bistrica, Zágráb, Hungary; now Marija Bistrica, Croatia. (Marija Bistrica is located 16 miles NNE of Zagreb (city) Text in Latin and Croatian. film # 1536611-1536615 1922158-1922163

Tania & John Mahoney wrote: > > Hi Paul > > This lady Sylvie has helped me with the film numbers for Korcula. I think > she is the international person re films at the LDS church head office . > > Her email is attached also the family search site is www.familysearch.org > and on this you can put in a place and it will give you film numbers. They > have recently added new films that are not online last time I looked, they > are the ones I got from Sylvie. > > Hope this helps. > > Regards Tania Mahoney (nee Matulovich) > PysnakovaSx@ldschurch.org Yes. There is also a International desk 800 number for LDS HQ in Salt Lake City UT USA. You can ask Sylvie Pysnaková where the LDS microfilm numbers for Marija Bistrica might be located ? From US a toll free number 1-800-453-3860, extension 2881. => (1707-1920) <= Metrical books (births, marriages, deaths, status animarum) for the Roman Catholic congregation at Marija Bistrica, Zágráb megye, Hungary; now Marija Bistrica, Croatia. Text in Latin and Croatian. (under 10 microfilm numbers in the FHL catalog) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paul F. Kisak" <kki@visuallink.com> > To: <CROATIA-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 12:21 PM > Subject: [CROATIA-L] LDS question > > Hello Frank, > > Do you or anybody else have any idea > where I could go to have the best chance of > finding these LDS records. > > Can you check on line for locations that carry the films numbers? > > Thanks, > > Paul > > The LDS filmed the R.C. parish church records (1707-1920) > for Marija Bistrica, Zágráb, Hungary; now Marija Bistrica, > Croatia. > (Marija Bistrica is located 16 miles NNE of Zagreb (city) > Text in Latin and Croatian. > > film # > 1536611-1536615 > 1922158-1922163

Yes, Freytag & Berndt. It is 1:250,000 - ISBN 3-85084-304-1. I think I ordered it from Borders or Barnes & Noble. ray ----- Original Message ----- From: "DAVID N MOTHKOVICH" <dave9759@juno.com> To: <CROATIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 10:47 PM Subject: Re: [CROATIA-L] Croatian Research > Can anyone recommend a good source for a physical map of Croatia about > 2-3 ' large for a good price? > Dave > >

Forwarded to the Croatia list because of the mention of Doc PAVELITICH of New Mexico. Ashley > >X-Loop: PENNSYLVANIA-L@rootsweb.com > >Hi ... > >I didn't post this on the PA list because nothing pertained to PA. >However, since everyone on here is feeling bad (and with just cause) because >someone is selling old records and not trying to legitimately find an owner, >I'm going to send this to all of you. I'm not asking anything for it, I >just want to find someone connected to these people. I will even pay the >postage! Just wanted all of you to know that MOST people are honest. ><<smile>> > >Here is the article I have posted on several other lists: > > I found a photo album at a flea market in Vacaville, California. It >> appears to be photos from someone's college days. Most of the photos >were >> taken in 1931. There are snapshots of young people on a trip to Pike's >> Peak in an old car named "Sarah". Some of the photos have names on them: >> Jack REINHART, Socarro New Mexico taken 7/31/1931, young man on a porch in >> the snow "Ross", young man in derby hat & bow tie sitting on porch steps >> Harold NORRIS, no date. Two young men Don NAYLER, Golden, CO and Doc >> PAVELITICH, New Mexico, young man sitting on the rocks is John BURKE. >> Poems written by Cal CARPENTER (he signs his name "The Poet of the >Platte") >> in July, 1931 called "Camp Satisfaction", "A Wanderer's Litany" and "Our >> Old Friends". There are photos of college football games in Boulder, >> Colorado taken 10/17/1931, photos of University of Louisville, KY, Indiana >> University and Purdue University. The photos are old but most of them >are in perfect condition. Several of the photos were developed at Warren's >Better Kodak Finishing - West >> Lafayette, Indiana on Oct 5, 1931. >> >> There is also a loose newspaper clipping about the death of Judge Joseph >> HERRON of the Howard Circuit Court and Dean of the local legal profession. >> The article mentions his secretary Goldie PERRY, his doctor Wilbur J. >> MARSHALL, his neighbors Joseph HARRIS and Margaret CRAIG, and his >daughter Mrs. Ruth ANDERSON arriving from Wash.DC. No date on this article, >it >> appears to be old, no state mentioned but a town mentioned in the article >is Delphi and his address was W. Mulberry Street. >>I would love to see this photo album and this article returned to a >relative >of some of these people. Someone went to great trouble to put this photo >> album together. If the relatives can't be found I would at least like >one >> of the colleges to have it. > > >> Judy in California >> Searching AUSTIN, BIRDSALL, CASE, EAKIN, FRAZELL, HAVENS, LEIM, MCCLENNON, >> ROCHELLE, SIMINGTON, STRICKLAND, VANGELDER/VANGALDER > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: <HOSTGFSSusi@aol.com> >To: <PENNSYLVANIA-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 10:51 AM >Subject: [PA] Old PA Documents > > >> John I sent note also Nara has caught the man and retrieved the unsold >> documents the sold documents they may not ever retrieve but a man in Ca >> turned them into NARA cause when he wanted copies was told no but was able >to >> buy later. I guess our story was more through this is not illegal and >most >> of those names are one of my family lines and collaterals wish I had >known >> the person. :<( Family lost contact about 70 years ago to many moves I >> fear. >> SusiCP >> >> ______________________________ > > >==== PENNSYLVANIA Mailing List ==== >Don't be afraid to ask questions. >There are no dumb questions on this list. > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy >records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 --

PS. In addition to Mrkopalj, many Slavs came from Delnice to Roslyn. I live in Seattle and have been to Roslyn, WA many times. The cemetery there has a section devoted to Croatians, and many are from Mrkopalj. Roslyn was a coal mining community and most of these folks were miners. It is located east of Seattle approximately 90 miles on the flanks of the Cascades (mountain range). If any of you in the US saw the TV series Northern Exposure, much of it was filmed in Roslyn, as were parts of the series Twin Peaks. Roslyn's history dates to about 1885. Various fraternal organizations purchased tracts of land for private cemetery use, so that today when one visits theold Roslyn cemetery, there are sections devoted to Croatians, Salvonians, Serbians, Italians, Lituananians, Redmen Lodge, Blacks, early pioneers, Knights of Pythias, Mason, Druids, Polish, etc. It is really a fascinating area to visit. Many of the graves are done in a European style, encased in cement above ground. It was a way to protect them from animals in the nearby forests (deer, etc.) Italians and Slavs were among the earliest immigrants to Roslyn. Many Weslh miners lived there as well as other Eastern European immigrants. The mines closed in the early 1960s. Many of the old "company biuuildings" still stand as they did then, including the company store, the saloon, etc. .

I live in Seattle and have been to Roslyn, WA many times. The cemetery there has a section devoted to Croatians, and many are from Mrkopalj. Roslyn was a coal mining community and most of these folks were miners. It is located east of Seattle approximately 90 miles on the flanks of the Cascades (mountain range). If any of you in the US saw the TV series Northern Exposure, much of it was filmed in Roslyn, as were parts of the series Twin Peaks. Roslyn's history dates to about 1885. Various fraternal organizations purchased tracts of land for private cemetery use, so that today when one visits theold Roslyn cemetery, there are sections devoted to Croatians, Salvonians, Serbians, Italians, Lituananians, Redmen Lodge, Blacks, early pioneers, Knights of Pythias, Mason, Druids, Polish, etc. It is really a fascinating area to visit. Many of the graves are done in a European style, encased in cement above ground. It was a way to protect them from animals in the nearby forests (deer, etc.) Italians and Slavs were among the earliest immigrants to Roslyn. Many Weslh miners lived there as well as other Eastern European immigrants. The mines closed in the early 1960s. Many of the old "company biuuildings" still stand as they did then, including the company store, the saloon, etc. .

Yes I can also recommend this one as I have it too. It gives great detail of areas around. Mine includes Croatia, Slovenia, Bosna-Herzegovina scale 1:600 000 by Freytag and Berndt for about the same price. Worthwhile having. Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ashley Tiwara" <grubisic@netwurx.net> To: <CROATIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 4:05 PM Subject: [CROATIA-L] Croatian map > For Christmas I purchased a large map, scale 1 to 500,000, of > Hrvatska, Croazia. It's from the Austrian company, Freytag and > Berndt, who make folding autocarte or road maps. The scale is very > detailed, more than any other map I've found. > I purchased it at a map store for $11 but you might want to > try Amazon first. > > Ashley > > > > >Can anyone recommend a good source for a physical map of Croatia about > >2-3 ' large for a good price? > >Dave > > > -- > >

Thanx much, Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: <FL4299@aol.com> To: <CROATIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 7:01 PM Subject: [CROATIA-L] LDS Question > Yes, go to www.familysearch.com, and start there. There is even a way to find > the > Family History Center (FHC) nearest to where you live. You don't have to be a > Mormon to use the FHC. Their services are invaluable, inexpensive and easy to > use. > Jim

Yes, go to www.familysearch.com, and start there. There is even a way to find the Family History Center (FHC) nearest to where you live. You don't have to be a Mormon to use the FHC. Their services are invaluable, inexpensive and easy to use. Jim

Hello Frank, Do you or anybody else have any idea where I could go to have the best chance of finding these LDS records. Can you check on line for locations that carry the films numbers? Thanks, Paul The LDS filmed the R.C. parish church records (1707-1920) for Marija Bistrica, Zágráb, Hungary; now Marija Bistrica, Croatia. (Marija Bistrica is located 16 miles NNE of Zagreb (city) Text in Latin and Croatian. film # 1536611-1536615 1922158-1922163

Hello Frank, Thanks again for the information. I thought "Bukmas" was a strange name also but it came directly from Nina as follows: "It was Petar a son of Ivan Kisak (possibly Krsak, because of scribbling hand) and Barbara, born Bukmas." She also included birth date which matched with our records. Bukmas sounds like it might be an 'import.' Best, Paul > > "Paul F. Kisak" wrote: > > > > Hello Frank, > > > > Thanks to information on this site I have > > extended our family tree back one more generation. > > > > This is the first time in 120 years anybody in our > > family has known of these relatives. > > > > One new name that I need information on is > > "Bukmas.", Barbara Bukmas married > > Ivan Kisak c. 1860 in Marija Bistrica. > > > > Also anything else on Kis'ak's of Marija Bistrica > > near Zagreb. > > > > Thanks, > > > > The Kisak Family > > The LDS filmed the R.C. parish church records (1707-1920) > for Marija Bistrica, Zágráb, Hungary; now Marija Bistrica, > Croatia. > (Marija Bistrica is located 16 miles NNE of Zagreb (city) > Text in Latin and Croatian. > > film # > 1536611-1536615 > 1922158-1922163 > > The Croatian telephone directory lists 22 surnames Kis^ak > bearers under Zagreb. > No surname Bukmas (which is a strange looking surname ?)

When I was in Croatia I was given a map of the zumberak area that was made up from arial photos showing individual houses. I have to believe that they would be available for other areas to but I have no idea where it came from. Donald Marinkovich ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Home" <marylawrie@optusnet.com.au> To: <CROATIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 4:19 AM Subject: Re: [CROATIA-L] Croatian map > Yes I can also recommend this one as I have it too. It gives great detail > of areas around. Mine includes Croatia, Slovenia, Bosna-Herzegovina scale > 1:600 000 by Freytag and Berndt for about the same price. Worthwhile > having. > > Mary > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ashley Tiwara" <grubisic@netwurx.net> > To: <CROATIA-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 4:05 PM > Subject: [CROATIA-L] Croatian map > > > > For Christmas I purchased a large map, scale 1 to 500,000, of > > Hrvatska, Croazia. It's from the Austrian company, Freytag and > > Berndt, who make folding autocarte or road maps. The scale is very > > detailed, more than any other map I've found. > > I purchased it at a map store for $11 but you might want to > > try Amazon first. > > > > Ashley > > > > > > > > >Can anyone recommend a good source for a physical map of Croatia about > > >2-3 ' large for a good price? > > >Dave > > > > > > -- > > > > > >

"Paul F. Kisak" wrote: > > Hello Frank, > > Thanks to information on this site I have > extended our family tree back one more generation. > > This is the first time in 120 years anybody in our > family has known of these relatives. > > One new name that I need information on is > "Bukmas.", Barbara Bukmas married > Ivan Kisak c. 1860 in Marija Bistrica. > > Also anything else on Kis'ak's of Marija Bistrica > near Zagreb. > > Thanks, > > The Kisak Family The LDS filmed the R.C. parish church records (1707-1920) for Marija Bistrica, Zágráb, Hungary; now Marija Bistrica, Croatia. (Marija Bistrica is located 16 miles NNE of Zagreb (city) Text in Latin and Croatian. film # 1536611-1536615 1922158-1922163 The Croatian telephone directory lists 22 surnames Kis^ak bearers under Zagreb. No surname Bukmas (which is a strange looking surname ?)

For Christmas I purchased a large map, scale 1 to 500,000, of Hrvatska, Croazia. It's from the Austrian company, Freytag and Berndt, who make folding autocarte or road maps. The scale is very detailed, more than any other map I've found. I purchased it at a map store for $11 but you might want to try Amazon first. Ashley >Can anyone recommend a good source for a physical map of Croatia about >2-3 ' large for a good price? >Dave --

Can anyone recommend a good source for a physical map of Croatia about 2-3 ' large for a good price? Dave

Many of the Croation names added an h on their names when they came to America, such as Sertic became Serich and Krznaric became Krznrich,. etc ----- Original Message ----- From: "SHAWN FOGARTY" <fogdryer@msn.com> To: <CROATIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 7:08 PM Subject: Re: [CROATIA-L] village Jezerane > My family name is Sertich would that be the same as Sertic?? > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Frank Kurchina > Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 1:51 PM > To: CROATIA-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [CROATIA-L] village Jezerane > > > > Doug Plowman wrote: > > > > The FHL has filmed records for a short period of time 1888-1899, if my > > memory is correct. Did the village of Jezerane have a Catholic church or did > > the people attend church in another village? Where can I find other records > > for Jezerane. Searching for surnames Krznaric, Sertic, Obajdim, > > Thanks > > Doug > > According to LDS FHL catalog, the LDS only filmed the R.C. parish > church records (1888-1899) for Jezerane, then Lika-Krbava megye > (county), Hungary, and now Lic^ko-senjska Z^upanija (county), Croatia. > > Jezerane parish church office address : > > Z^upni Ured > Jezerane 51 > 53262 Jezerane > Hrvatska (Croatia) > > > You might like to write to County civil registration office > in Jezerane. > > address : > > Z^upanija Lic^ko-Senjska Matic^ni Ured > Jezerane BB > 53262 Jezerane > Hrvatska (Croatia) > > Even if you write in English and they understand language, they will > reply back in Croatian. > > You could try inputing all the nearby villages in FHL catalog to see > if any place names come up ? > > The Croatian telephone directory lists : > > 87 surname Krznaric' under county, including 2 surnames listed under > Jezerane > > Directory also lists 84 surname Sertic' under county, including > 23 surnames listed under Jezerane. > >

My family name is Sertich would that be the same as Sertic?? ----- Original Message ----- From: Frank Kurchina Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 1:51 PM To: CROATIA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CROATIA-L] village Jezerane Doug Plowman wrote: > > The FHL has filmed records for a short period of time 1888-1899, if my > memory is correct. Did the village of Jezerane have a Catholic church or did > the people attend church in another village? Where can I find other records > for Jezerane. Searching for surnames Krznaric, Sertic, Obajdim, > Thanks > Doug According to LDS FHL catalog, the LDS only filmed the R.C. parish church records (1888-1899) for Jezerane, then Lika-Krbava megye (county), Hungary, and now Lic^ko-senjska Z^upanija (county), Croatia. Jezerane parish church office address : Z^upni Ured Jezerane 51 53262 Jezerane Hrvatska (Croatia) You might like to write to County civil registration office in Jezerane. address : Z^upanija Lic^ko-Senjska Matic^ni Ured Jezerane BB 53262 Jezerane Hrvatska (Croatia) Even if you write in English and they understand language, they will reply back in Croatian. You could try inputing all the nearby villages in FHL catalog to see if any place names come up ? The Croatian telephone directory lists : 87 surname Krznaric' under county, including 2 surnames listed under Jezerane Directory also lists 84 surname Sertic' under county, including 23 surnames listed under Jezerane.

Hello Frank, Thanks to information on this site I have extended our family tree back one more generation. This is the first time in 120 years anybody in our family has known of these relatives. One new name that I need information on is "Bukmas.", Barbara Bukmas married Ivan Kisak c. 1860 in Marija Bistrica. Also anything else on Kis'ak's of Marija Bistrica near Zagreb. Thanks, The Kisak Family

MSandler2@aol.com wrote: > > I'm looking for the following surnames: Levak, Kumer (Samabor) & Gregurich, > Yoibovic (not sure where Zagreb?) Thank you, Fran A Samobor is located 14 miles west of Zagreb. The Croatian telephone directory lists : 162 surname Levak under Zagreb, including 3 surnames under Samobor. 16 surname Kumer under Zagreb, including 1 surname under Samoborska. 220 surname Greguric'(Gregurich) under Zagreb. In Croatian the letter J is pron. Y. 1 surname Joinovic' (Joinovich) under Zagreb.