DAVID N MOTHKOVICH wrote: > > Does anyone know where to e-mail for the archived records for Virovitica > and Delnice? > Dave Virovitica is located 66 miles east of Zagreb Delinice is located 64 miles WSW of Zagreb and 20 miles from Rijeka. There is one central archives on the state level and only 12 regional archives in Croatia. Any birth and death records older than 1860 were turned over to the Croatian historical archives. My understanding is that all religious records had been collected in State Archives, located at: Varaz^din, Zagreb, Bjelovar, Pazin, Rijeka, Karlovac, Zadar, Split, Dubrovnik, Sisak, Slavonski Brod, and Osijek. The Croatian National Archives (Hrvatski Drz^avni Arhiv) located in Zagreb is main depository of old church records for many parts of the country. email : hda@arhiv.hr

Does anyone know where to e-mail for the archived records for Virovitica and Delnice? Dave

Hello Mary, Checking Ellis Island for FONTA and variations I found a Paraska FONDA arr 1907 from Austria listed Race of People (ethnicity) as Ruthenian. Uncanily close to PARASKOVICH! Could they mistakenly have recorded a maiden name as a first name on this manifest? Ruthenians are generally Eastern or Byzantine Rite Catholics. Were Emil and Maria Byzantine Rite Catholics? What language did the speak? http://www.ellisislandrecords.org She is listed as coming from Mikoljow which is perhaps MIKOLOW Poland 170.1 miles SSW of Warsaw which may have been an area that was part of the old Austro-Hungarian Empire. Robert Jerin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Hegarty" <mhegarty@cybertron.com> To: <CROATIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 7:01 PM Subject: [CROATIA-L] Fonta/Pavskovic > Hi! I am new to the list. I am trying to research my grandparents Emil and > Maria Fonta. My grandmother's name was Pavskovic or Paraskovich. The only > information I have on them is that they came to New York from Austria around > 1904. After doing some research I came to the conclusion that they must have > come from Austria-Croatia. My mother who died in 1985, was their fourth > child and was separated from her parents at birth and never knew them. I > only recently found out their names and would like to know where to go from > here. If anyone can help it would be greatly appreciated! > Mary Hegarty >

thanks. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Home" <marylawrie@optusnet.com.au> To: <CROATIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 2:17 AM Subject: Re: [CROATIA-L] Edlund on Croatia: a modest proposal > Ashley > > Then we should all put our heads together and see what it is that we need to > continue our searches and yes this topic of Austrian navy should be looked > at. So what do we need to do. > > Mary > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ashley Tiwara" <grubisic@netwurx.net> > To: <CROATIA-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 5:20 PM > Subject: [CROATIA-L] Edlund on Croatia: a modest proposal > > > > I met Thomas Edlund at the FEEFHS conference, where he did one of the > > two presentations on Croatia. He indicated in that presentation that > > LDS responds to pressure in the sense of choosing projects for > > filming. If the Croatian genealogists assembled and lobbied LDS for > > anything in particular, the Croatian genealogists might possibly get > > it. > > How about filming the records of the Austrian navy? You > > think Austria didn't have a navy because it was and is a landlocked > > state? Remember who controlled Croatia during the 19th century and > > you will know where the Austrian navy came from. With many of the > > officers and men being Croatian, I think the meticulous records kept > > by the Austrian government of their service personnel would provide > > us genealogists with huge amounts of information about our naval > > ancestors. How about this list starts discussing what records we'd > > really love to have access to without travelling to Austria or > > Croatia to get them, and discuss then the lobbying effort needed to > > get LDS to provide those records? > > > > Modestly, but pleased with my late night brilliance, > > Ashley > > > > > > > > > > >Thomas Edlund is the gentleman who organised the filming of Croatia > > >http://feefhs.org/fij/fij-tom1.html http://feefhs.org/cro/frg-hr.html if > you > > >email the LDS Sylvie is the one more than likely to reply to your email. > I'd > > >say she looks after Eastern Europe from what I remember her telling ME > which > > >does include Croatia but perhaps she specialises in Slovakia. If you > email > > >either one they will reply to your emails. Sylvie will also send you out > a > > >pamplet on Croatian genealogy if you ask her. > > > > > >I was also told by Mr Edlund that all filming had ceased in Croatia and > that > > >they had no plans on doing any more at this stage. > > > > > >Regards > > >Mary > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > >

on 3/5/02 7:47 PM, Robert Jerin at rjerin@adelphia.net wrote: > Hello Mary, > > Checking Ellis Island for FONTA and variations I found a Paraska FONDA arr > 1907 from Austria listed Race of People (ethnicity) as Ruthenian. Uncanily > close to PARASKOVICH! Could they mistakenly have recorded a maiden name as > a first name on this manifest? Ruthenians are generally Eastern or > Byzantine Rite Catholics. Were Emil and Maria Byzantine Rite Catholics? > What language did the speak? > > http://www.ellisislandrecords.org > > She is listed as coming from Mikoljow which is perhaps MIKOLOW Poland 170.1 > miles SSW of Warsaw which may have been an area that was part of the old > Austro-Hungarian Empire. > > Robert Jerin > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mary Hegarty" <mhegarty@cybertron.com> > To: <CROATIA-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 7:01 PM > Subject: [CROATIA-L] Fonta/Pavskovic > > >> Hi! I am new to the list. I am trying to research my grandparents Emil and >> Maria Fonta. My grandmother's name was Pavskovic or Paraskovich. The only >> information I have on them is that they came to New York from Austria > around >> 1904. After doing some research I came to the conclusion that they must > have >> come from Austria-Croatia. My mother who died in 1985, was their fourth >> child and was separated from her parents at birth and never knew them. I >> only recently found out their names and would like to know where to go > from >> here. If anyone can help it would be greatly appreciated! >> Mary Hegarty >> Robert, I don't have the ship's manifest. I've never been able to find it. The documents that I have are my mother's birth certificate and the records from the NY Foundling Hospital that list them as Roman Catholics and my grandmother's first name as Maria. It looks like Paraskovich on the birth certificate (unclearly written) and Pavskovic (clearly written) on the Foundling record. However, there were other last names on later records such as Fania, Farnia, and Fanid. Also, my mother was born in 1909 and the record states that the family had been in the country for five years. Unfortunately, I don't know what language they spoke. But I have to admit Paraska Fonda sounds like someone I should look into. Mary

Hi! I am new to the list. I am trying to research my grandparents Emil and Maria Fonta. My grandmother's name was Pavskovic or Paraskovich. The only information I have on them is that they came to New York from Austria around 1904. After doing some research I came to the conclusion that they must have come from Austria-Croatia. My mother who died in 1985, was their fourth child and was separated from her parents at birth and never knew them. I only recently found out their names and would like to know where to go from here. If anyone can help it would be greatly appreciated! Mary Hegarty

Well when I wrote to them last year it only took about 2 days to get a reply. I kept it simple such as giving my grandfather's name and around the year he was born and his father's name and the village and the name of his wife. Every time I've emailed they have replied. I wrote in English and they wrote back in English. Maybe they have been unindated with emails and have a back log I dont know. Ask Frank (List Administrator) to send you a copy of letters on how to ask for information in Croatian if you dont already have a copy and try it that way. or try again and keep it short that's all I can say dont expect much from them other than telling you where you can write to get more information and remember they are not a research centre. BTW what areas are you searching mary -----Original Message----- From: sarmar1 [mailto:sarmar1@msn.com] Sent: Tuesday, 5 March 2002 5:06 PM To: CROATIA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CROATIA-L] Croatia Name assistance needed Mary, How long does it normally take Drzavni Arhiv Zagreb to respond to an inquiry? I sent an email over a month ago with surnames and towns where births and a baptism occurred, but have not received a reply. My email was in English, but I thought that was OK. What did I do wrong, or am I being too impatient? Sarah ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Home" <marylawrie@optusnet.com.au> To: <CROATIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 4:09 AM Subject: Re: [CROATIA-L] Croatia Name assistance needed > > tony > > Are you saying that you looked at these films from Slobodnica at the LDS and > there is no record on your family names in it? > LDS web page say there are births marriages and death records from1790-1900 > for this area. I suggest if this is the case write to e-mail: > povijesni-arhiv-zg@zg.tel.hr Drzavni arhiv Zagreb and ask them where the > records are kept. Give them as much information as you can such as the > names of the grandfather and great grandfather and dates that you have if > any and the location the family name is from. > > Regards > Mary > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Musiov, Tony" <Tony_Musiov@bmc.com> > To: <CROATIA-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 4:10 PM > Subject: [CROATIA-L] Croatia Name assistance needed > > > > Hi, > > > > I'm writing from Australia,but i'm doing my research on my Croatia > > ancestry. > > I've tried the LDS Films to no avail. > > Problem is that my Ancestors (Surname MUSIOV) are from Slobodnica. My > > Grandfather and Great-Grandfather both lived and died in Slobodnica. > > > > As i mentioned i have tried the LDS Microfilm to no avail. > > No Musiov anywhere on the Net. > > How else can i possibly find some sort of information on them. > > I thought maby the local Church in Slobodnica. > > > > Any suggestion or assistance would be greatly appreciated. > > > > Regards Tony > > > > > > >

----- Original Message ----- From: <PUZEXPRESS@aol.com> To: <CROATIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 9:53 AM Subject: [CROATIA-L] LDS Record Searches > Sarah, > > You probably know this but perhaps not. > > The Croatian records I have seen on LDS microfilm are really three separate > and different church records-baptisms, deaths and marriages (liber > baptizatorum, liber defunctorum and liber matrimoniorum). All the headings > are written in Latin as is much of the data. Both Croatian and a "kind of a > slang" German are thrown in for good measure. If you are not familiar with Not all regions of Croatia had "slang" German on those records. > these languages, don't be put off as the LDS Home Centers have > mini-dictionaries of various languages extracted for the words most used by > genealogists. These work great. There is also a help page available for working with those records. http://www.croatia-in-english.com/gen/index.html Robert Jerin

Hello Tony, Please send me an Email, perhaps I can help you with your search. Robert Jerin rjerin@adelphia.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Kurchina" <frankur@worldnet.att.net> To: <CROATIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 9:48 AM Subject: Re: [CROATIA-L] Croatia Name assistance needed > > > "Musiov, Tony" wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > I'm writing from Australia,but i'm doing my research on my Croatia > > ancestry. > > I've tried the LDS Films to no avail. > > Problem is that my Ancestors (Surname MUSIOV) are from Slobodnica. My > > Grandfather and Great-Grandfather both lived and died in Slobodnica. > > > > As i mentioned i have tried the LDS Microfilm to no avail. > > No Musiov anywhere on the Net. > > How else can i possibly find some sort of information on them. > > I thought maby the local Church in Slobodnica. > > > > Any suggestion or assistance would be greatly appreciated. > > > > Regards Tony > > Hi Tony, > > The LDS filmed the R.C. parish registers (births, marriages, deaths) > for the Sv. Marco church at Slobodnicza, Slavonien, Austria; later; > Slobodnica, Pozsega megye, Hungary; now Slobodnica, Croatia. > (1790-1900) > > Text in Latin and Croatian. > > film # > births, marriages, deaths 1419217 > births & deatshs 2065201 > > Or, did you mean surname Musiov ? was not listed in the microfims ? > I had given you these same film numbers back in September 2001. >

If you look at the IGI's on LDS web page these have been inputed by volunteers for the Scottish and English births, marriages, etc it shows the name of the person, date, batch no, the film no and serial number etc. Maybe it would be a good idea to speak to Thomas Edlund to see how we could get this up for Croatia as well. It would probably take a long time with volunteers reading film especially if they are not familiar with latin or the names themselves. mary -----Original Message----- From: SHAWN FOGARTY [mailto:fogdryer@msn.com] Sent: Tuesday, 5 March 2002 10:51 AM To: CROATIA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CROATIA-L] Edlund on Croatia: a modest proposal I agree................. shawn ----- Original Message ----- From: DAVID N MOTHKOVICH Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 5:20 PM To: CROATIA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CROATIA-L] Edlund on Croatia: a modest proposal Let me put my 2 cents in on this. I think it would be most practical to get them to make the Marriage Birth and death records for the 19th century on line, much as the Ellisislandrecords are. Most of Croatia is Catholic, and most of these are microfilmed. It would give the greatest possibility of finding your immigrant ancestor... even non-catholics would most likely find an ancestor, since grandparent, uncle etc., would probably be Catholic. Just a thought. Dave M.

Thanks to all who responded on the list and privately to the origin of my KRIZNIK name. I did not know there were several Zagorjes . . . one being in Slovenija. After viewing the map Robert supplied, I now think the name is Slovenian, as this area is about midway between the old homestead and the Croatian border. Thanks again Sandy

Sarah, You probably know this but perhaps not. The Croatian records I have seen on LDS microfilm are really three separate and different church records-baptisms, deaths and marriages (liber baptizatorum, liber defunctorum and liber matrimoniorum). All the headings are written in Latin as is much of the data. Both Croatian and a "kind of a slang" German are thrown in for good measure. If you are not familiar with these languages, don't be put off as the LDS Home Centers have mini-dictionaries of various languages extracted for the words most used by genealogists. These work great. When starting, I have found that the marriage records are the most useful as these provide (usually) the parents names and the witness names. Many times the latter are one or more grandparents. Although relatively brief as noted above this is the only "roadmap" type of record I have discovered. From it, plus diligent searching and much eye strain, you can go back in time. Of course if you have exact dates, use those in the search. Dick Puz

"Musiov, Tony" wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm writing from Australia,but i'm doing my research on my Croatia > ancestry. > I've tried the LDS Films to no avail. > Problem is that my Ancestors (Surname MUSIOV) are from Slobodnica. My > Grandfather and Great-Grandfather both lived and died in Slobodnica. > > As i mentioned i have tried the LDS Microfilm to no avail. > No Musiov anywhere on the Net. > How else can i possibly find some sort of information on them. > I thought maby the local Church in Slobodnica. > > Any suggestion or assistance would be greatly appreciated. > > Regards Tony Hi Tony, The LDS filmed the R.C. parish registers (births, marriages, deaths) for the Sv. Marco church at Slobodnicza, Slavonien, Austria; later; Slobodnica, Pozsega megye, Hungary; now Slobodnica, Croatia. (1790-1900) Text in Latin and Croatian. film # births, marriages, deaths 1419217 births & deatshs 2065201 Or, did you mean surname Musiov ? was not listed in the microfims ? I had given you these same film numbers back in September 2001.

Sandy Laurie wrote: > > Hi . . . I'm new to the list. I've always thought my maternal gr grandfather was of Slovenian descent . . . now I'm not so sure. Relatives on the family farm in Slovenija tell me he bought the farm in the late 1880's. I know he was in the US several times to work. In 1904 he traveled with cousins who were from Zagorje. This area looks to be right over the border in Croatia, not far from the farm in Slovenija. The name Kriznik in the US is not common . . . most are relatives of mine. I noticed many Krizniks listed in the Croatian telephone directory. Am I on the right track? Does anyone know whether this name is Slovenian or Croatian? > > Thanks > Sandy -------- The Slovenian telephone directory lists quite a number of surname Kriz^nik and one Kriz^niki under Ljubljana-the capital. There may be other surnames listed under other Slovenian towns. You might want to post your query at the Slovenia Genealogy Forum. http://genforum.genealogy.com/slovenia/

Hello Sandy, I am also new to the list! > Sandy Laurie wrote: > > > > Hi . . . I'm new to the list. I've always thought my maternal gr grandfather was of Slovenian descent . . . now I'm not so sure. Relatives on the family farm in Slovenija tell me he bought the farm in the late 1880's. I know he was in the US several times to work. In 1904 he traveled with cousins who were from Zagorje. This area looks to be right over the border in Croatia, not far from the farm in Slovenija. The area you are speaking of is north of Zagreb and there are some listings for Kriznik in that area, which is Krapina-Zagorje. However this is not near Ogulin which was mentioned in another post. Are you certain it was Zagorje, Croatia? There are several places in Slovenia by this name. Here is info from Ellis Is for someone from Zagorje, Steiermark, Kriznik, Videk Austria, Steiermark, Slovenian Zagorje, Steiermark March 07, 1907 If the above place is the Zagorje here is the location in Slovenia. ZAGORJE 4605 1529 N Slovenia 46.4 miles E of Ljubljana http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?latlongtype=decimal&latitude=46.0833&lo ngitude=15.4833 Robert Jerin

I'm most interested in Sibenik, Primosten, and Pula. I discovered over the weekend that LDS now has film for those areas, so I guess I'll be spending a lot of time at the nearest FHC. I'll also try the archives again and keep the info to a minimum. Thanks, Sarah ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maryanne Lawrie" <m.lawrie@walter.net.au> To: <CROATIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 11:49 PM Subject: RE: [CROATIA-L] Croatia Name assistance needed > Well when I wrote to them last year it only took about 2 days to get a > reply. I kept it simple such as giving my grandfather's name and around the > year he was born and his father's name and the village and the name of his > wife. Every time I've emailed they have replied. > > I wrote in English and they wrote back in English. Maybe they have been > unindated with emails and have a back log I dont know. Ask Frank (List > Administrator) to send you a copy of letters on how to ask for information > in Croatian if you dont already have a copy and try it that way. > > or try again and keep it short that's all I can say dont expect much from > them other than telling you where you can write to get more information and > remember they are not a research centre. > > BTW what areas are you searching > > mary > > -----Original Message----- > From: sarmar1 [mailto:sarmar1@msn.com] > Sent: Tuesday, 5 March 2002 5:06 PM > To: CROATIA-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [CROATIA-L] Croatia Name assistance needed > > > Mary, > > How long does it normally take Drzavni Arhiv Zagreb to respond to an > inquiry? I sent an email over a month ago with surnames and towns where > births and a baptism occurred, but have not received a reply. My email was > in English, but I thought that was OK. What did I do wrong, or am I being > too impatient? > > Sarah > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mary Home" <marylawrie@optusnet.com.au> > To: <CROATIA-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 4:09 AM > Subject: Re: [CROATIA-L] Croatia Name assistance needed > > > > > > tony > > > > Are you saying that you looked at these films from Slobodnica at the LDS > and > > there is no record on your family names in it? > > LDS web page say there are births marriages and death records > from1790-1900 > > for this area. I suggest if this is the case write to e-mail: > > povijesni-arhiv-zg@zg.tel.hr Drzavni arhiv Zagreb and ask them where the > > records are kept. Give them as much information as you can such as the > > names of the grandfather and great grandfather and dates that you have if > > any and the location the family name is from. > > > > Regards > > Mary > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Musiov, Tony" <Tony_Musiov@bmc.com> > > To: <CROATIA-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 4:10 PM > > Subject: [CROATIA-L] Croatia Name assistance needed > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I'm writing from Australia,but i'm doing my research on my Croatia > > > ancestry. > > > I've tried the LDS Films to no avail. > > > Problem is that my Ancestors (Surname MUSIOV) are from Slobodnica. My > > > Grandfather and Great-Grandfather both lived and died in Slobodnica. > > > > > > As i mentioned i have tried the LDS Microfilm to no avail. > > > No Musiov anywhere on the Net. > > > How else can i possibly find some sort of information on them. > > > I thought maby the local Church in Slobodnica. > > > > > > Any suggestion or assistance would be greatly appreciated. > > > > > > Regards Tony > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Mary, How long does it normally take Drzavni Arhiv Zagreb to respond to an inquiry? I sent an email over a month ago with surnames and towns where births and a baptism occurred, but have not received a reply. My email was in English, but I thought that was OK. What did I do wrong, or am I being too impatient? Sarah ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Home" <marylawrie@optusnet.com.au> To: <CROATIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 4:09 AM Subject: Re: [CROATIA-L] Croatia Name assistance needed > > tony > > Are you saying that you looked at these films from Slobodnica at the LDS and > there is no record on your family names in it? > LDS web page say there are births marriages and death records from1790-1900 > for this area. I suggest if this is the case write to e-mail: > povijesni-arhiv-zg@zg.tel.hr Drzavni arhiv Zagreb and ask them where the > records are kept. Give them as much information as you can such as the > names of the grandfather and great grandfather and dates that you have if > any and the location the family name is from. > > Regards > Mary > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Musiov, Tony" <Tony_Musiov@bmc.com> > To: <CROATIA-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 4:10 PM > Subject: [CROATIA-L] Croatia Name assistance needed > > > > Hi, > > > > I'm writing from Australia,but i'm doing my research on my Croatia > > ancestry. > > I've tried the LDS Films to no avail. > > Problem is that my Ancestors (Surname MUSIOV) are from Slobodnica. My > > Grandfather and Great-Grandfather both lived and died in Slobodnica. > > > > As i mentioned i have tried the LDS Microfilm to no avail. > > No Musiov anywhere on the Net. > > How else can i possibly find some sort of information on them. > > I thought maby the local Church in Slobodnica. > > > > Any suggestion or assistance would be greatly appreciated. > > > > Regards Tony > > > > > > >

Sandy Laurie wrote: > > Hi . . . I'm new to the list. I've always thought my maternal gr grandfather was of Slovenian descent . . . now I'm not so sure. Relatives on the family farm in Slovenija tell me he bought the farm in the late 1880's. I know he was in the US several times to work. In 1904 he traveled with cousins who were from Zagorje. This area looks to be right over the border in Croatia, not far from the farm in Slovenija. The name Kriznik in the US is not common . . . most are relatives of mine. I noticed many Krizniks listed in the Croatian telephone directory. Am I on the right track? Does anyone know whether this name is Slovenian or Croatian? > > Thanks > Sandy More. 18 surname Kriznik emigrated to U.S. via Ellis Island (NYC) 1901-1914. Only one was listed under Zagorje. Videk Kriznik, age 40, married, arrived in 1907. From Zagorje, Steirermark, Austria Ethnicity Slovenian. Steirermark (G) Styria (E) S^tajerska (Slovene) Sty'rsko (Croatian) was a former duchy and a Austrian Kröneland (province) http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/14318a.htm

Sandy Laurie wrote: > > Hi . . . I'm new to the list. I've always thought my maternal gr grandfather was of Slovenian descent . . . now I'm not so sure. Relatives on the family farm in Slovenija tell me he bought the farm in the late 1880's. I know he was in the US several times to work. In 1904 he traveled with cousins who were from Zagorje. This area looks to be right over the border in Croatia, not far from the farm in Slovenija. The name Kriznik in the US is not common . . . most are relatives of mine. I noticed many Krizniks listed in the Croatian telephone directory. Am I on the right track? Does anyone know whether this name is Slovenian or Croatian? > > Thanks > Sandy If surname had ended in the South Slavic surname affix -ic'/-vic', -ovic' pron. ovich, meaning 'son of' it might have helped ?. Some Croatian and Slovenian characters (letters) like " c " employ diacritic-accented marks. v c pronounced as " ch " in English word ch-urch. c' pronounced as " ch " in English word ch-eap. c is pronounced as " ts " in English word tse-tse. The angular c' is used when c is the last letter in a Croatian surname. (Slovenian doesn't have this angular c' character and uses c ^ instead) Kriz^ means cross in both Croatian and Slovene. -nik is an occupational affix. v Example, radnik = manual worker,lijecnik = doctor,and z^upnik = parish priest. There are three Zagorje in Croatia. One is located 97 miles WSW of Zagreb. Zagorje (Krs^an) http://zagorje.net/svetista/tuhelj.htm Zagorje (Krnjak) Zagorje (Ogulin) is probably the one you refer to.

Another suggestion; I would be willing to do transcription and data entries if they would let us volunteer and provide us the necessary resources. Dave On Tue, 5 Mar 2002 10:51:22 +1100 Maryanne Lawrie <m.lawrie@walter.net.au> writes: > If you look at the IGI's on LDS web page these have been inputed by > volunteers for the Scottish and English births, marriages, etc it > shows the > name of the person, date, batch no, the film no and serial number > etc. > Maybe it would be a good idea to speak to Thomas Edlund to see how > we could > get this up for Croatia as well. It would probably take a long time > with > volunteers reading film especially if they are not familiar with > latin or > the names themselves. > > mary > > -----Original Message----- > From: SHAWN FOGARTY [mailto:fogdryer@msn.com] > Sent: Tuesday, 5 March 2002 10:51 AM > To: CROATIA-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [CROATIA-L] Edlund on Croatia: a modest proposal > > > I agree................. > > > shawn > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: DAVID N MOTHKOVICH > Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 5:20 PM > To: CROATIA-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [CROATIA-L] Edlund on Croatia: a modest proposal > > Let me put my 2 cents in on this. > I think it would be most practical to get them to make the Marriage > Birth > and death records for the 19th century on line, much as the > Ellisislandrecords are. Most of Croatia is Catholic, and most of > these > are microfilmed. It would give the greatest possibility of finding > your > immigrant ancestor... even non-catholics would most likely find an > ancestor, since grandparent, uncle etc., would probably be > Catholic. > Just a thought. > Dave M. > >