I've been out of town and came home to only 200 pieces of mail, among them the query below, about which I know nothing. Does anyone on this list know of the author or her book? Ashley ************************************ My name is Miroslav Grubelic, and I am helping my uncle to find information for his research in Croatian History. My Uncle, Ivan Adamovic, lives in Madrid, Spain. He is interested in finding this book : POSTANAK IMENA HRVAT , written by Silvie Grubisic. We wander if this person is related to you and your family. I will appreciate your help in this matter. Regards, Miroslav Grubelic Caracas, Venezuela Telfax 58 212 242 3875

Before present day Croatia the Croats founded a Kingdom called White Croatia, in the region of today's Krakow Poland and Czech Republic. Here is an article claiming the Pope's mother's ethnicity was White Croatian. http://www.kessler-web.co.uk/History/FeaturesEurope/EasternCroatiaName.htm About White Croatia http://www.hr/darko/etf/et01.html#white http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/04510a.htm Robert Interested in visting Croatia? Click on the link below to find out about a wonderful tour of Croatia! http://www.kollander-travel.com/

Ashley, I believe the name is Silvija GRUBISIC, who translates from Croatian into English. However I find nothing about a book by that title. Robert ashley tiwara <[email protected]> wrote: I've been out of town and came home to only 200 pieces of mail, among them the query below, about which I know nothing. Does anyone on this list know of the author or her book? Ashley ************************************ My name is Miroslav Grubelic, and I am helping my uncle to find information for his research in Croatian History. My Uncle, Ivan Adamovic, lives in Madrid, Spain. He is interested in finding this book : POSTANAK IMENA HRVAT , written by Silvie Grubisic. We wander if this person is related to you and your family. I will appreciate your help in this matter. Regards, Miroslav Grubelic Caracas, Venezuela Telfax 58 212 242 3875 Interested in visting Croatia? Click on the link below to find out about a wonderful tour of Croatia! http://www.kollander-travel.com/

Andy; I just got this from Crown. http://www.lasvegascroatians.com And I can't be there and eat Vruc' janje, darn, darn, Darn It. Nick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dr. Andrew Nixon" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 7:31 PM Subject: RE: [CROATIA-L] Croatian restaurant

Robert I happen to have that Anniversary book from 1994 and it has many names in it, they are not index but would be willing to look for any names. Donna

Over a century of fraternalism has been achieved within the ranks of the Croatian Fraternal Union. The Croatian Fraternal Union is a fraternal benefit society which was organized on September 2, 1894 in old Allegheny City, now the North Side of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Although many recognized the need for an insurance society which would provide coverage for our people and their families, it was Zdravko V. Muzina, a young journalist who came from Chicago to establish a newspaper in Allegheny City, who laid the foundation for the Society as we know it today. The first meeting to organize such a society was held on January 14, 1894. The meeting was attended by more than 300 people but only a few actually signed up as members and began payment of dues to provide life insurance protection along with accident and sickness insurance for themselves and their families. Undaunted by the low initial response, Muzina along with Petar Pavlinac and Franjo Sepic, succeeded in establishing The Croatian Association which bore that name until 1897, when the charter was issued in the name of the National Croatian Society. When in 1926, the National Croatian Society, the Croatian League of Illinois, the St. Joseph Society of Kansas City, KS, and the New Croatian Society of Whiting, Indiana merged, the present Croatian Fraternal Union of America came into existence. The Croatian Fraternal Union has grown into an organization with tens of thousands of members and is the largest Croatian organization outside of Croatia. At the headquarters in Pittsburgh, the Home Office houses a truly valuable Croatian Cultural room and museum. The CFU continues to offer many cultural and social activities to our members. Among the activities sponsored by our Society in recent history and of which we are justifiably proud was the establishment of the CFU Scholarship Foundation, Inc. Through this program we hope to continue to aid hundreds of students who are striving towards college educations. The CFU is also proud of our contribution toward the promotion of Croatian culture and music among the youngest members of our organization as well as our adult members. This was accomplished through the establishment of our Junior and Adult Cultural Federations. Each Federation separately sponsors an annual Tamburitza Festival bringing together Americans and Canadians to present performances through which they are sharing their love for Croatian music, song and folklore. The CFU has been among the first ethnic fraternals to launch an active sports promotion program. These sports promotions go back to the late 1920's and have been continued solidly over the years. The CFU sports program includes skiing, basketball, golf, softball, soccer, and bowling. Many lodges of the society throughout the United States and Canada have built Croatian Homes and Centers for their members and friends to meet in a fraternal atmosphere. While we are proud of our activities on the cultural side, our basic purpose from the beginning of the Society has been to provide our members and relatives with outstanding protection. In our second century of fraternalism, we dedicate our efforts to offering quality life insurance, annuity and IRA plans. We welcome all individuals who are interested in quality protection for themselves and their families to join the Croatian Fraternal Union. In 1994 our Society celebrated its 100th anniversary. Now with over one hundred years of notable history and outstanding accomplishments, we also look forward to prosperous and successful growth in the years ahead. The CFU, building upon the wonderful legacy of our founders, will continually strive towards an exceptional future for our Fraternal Society. Robert Jerin [email protected] wrote:Dr David Starcevic was a Croatian politician and elected representative in Croatian parliament (Sabor) in 19th century. Croatian Society NHZ in the US named a unit after him: http://www.interment.net/data/us/wa/kittitas/drstarc1/starcevic1.htm Here you can read the messages you deleted: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/croatia NHZ is Narodna Hrvatska Zajednica and Dr David Starcevic lodge #56 is I believe the same mentioned in the above note about the Roslyn cemetery. The surname is frequent in Croatia and it is not likely to establish family relation. Tatjana Interested in visting Croatia? Click on the link below to find out about a wonderful tour of Croatia! http://www.kollander-travel.com/

Lucy, Yes that is a convention badge. The Red, White and Blue, while they are the colors of our US flag, were used on that badge because they are the colors of the Croatian flag. There are no titles used in Social Security records ie DR, MR, MRS, Miss and David STARCEVICH records gives no indication whether or not he was a DR. Anyway as Tatjana mentioned Dr. STARCEVIC is a historical figure, a patriot. While your family may or may not be related to this DR., Keep in mind that STARCEVIC is a common surname. Perhaps it was kept by your family due to the fact that the surnames were the same. It would in anycase be a very nice keepsake or collectable. Don't discard this item! The National Croatian Society was the predecesor to the Croatian Fraternal Union of the USA and Canada (aka CFU). The CFU, the world's largest Croatian organization with over 90,000 members, is based in Pittsburgh PA. The CFU was formed as a means to provide security for families when a member of that family passed on. Most policies were small amounts at an affordable cost, often times just enough to bury that member. Local Lodges were formed across the US and Canada (after the fall of communisim several Lodges were formed in Croatia) which built buildings called Lodges or Doms. These local Lodges served as a gather place where members could speak in their mother tongue and enjoy many of the cultural activities of their old homeland. Nowadays the CFU operates much in the same manner, but now preserving that culture and perpetuating it amongst descendents of those early immigrants. The CFU weekly newspaper, The Zajednicar, publishes Lodge activities, articles about Cro! atia, Croatian history and Croatian people, as well as announcing cultural events. IMHO every Croatian-American should belong to the CFU! Today CFU Lodges in Montana are located at: Anaconda, MT Lodge 84 "St Peter and Paul" Butte, MT Lodge 89, "Hrvatska" Lewistown, MT, Lodge 987, "Tomislav" Odsjek Broj 56 = Lodge Number 56 is still active at Roslyn, WA As well there is a Dr Starcevic Cemetery in Roslyn http://www.mrail.net/data/cemete/wash/kittitas/drstark/starcevic.htm By the way Wyoming has 2 CFU Lodges, both in Rock Springs. Robert Jerin Lucy Simpson <[email protected]> wrote: There was a series of e-mails on the National Croatian Society on this listserve, and because I did not have any connection to this society, I did not read them and deleted all of them. Then my aunt died in Montana, and I went to her funeral. While there I visited with cousins from the Croatian lines and found a connection to this Society. My cousin showed me a badge that was red, white and blue with gold fringes. I made a copy of both sides of the badge? or name tag? that was pinned on the wearer. This badge came from my grandmother's things. None of us know how the person named on the badge is related and why she had it. The name was the same as our grandfather's. Any ideas or thoughts on how I can find out about this. Please give me a summary of the purpose, etc. of this society. I am sorry I didn't read and save this discussion, but I sure didn't know I would have a connection to it all. Would this society have any genealogical information? This is a description of the badge, which is 16 inches long and abt. 3 inches wide Pin on top left says National Croatian Society of the USA, the top right has 3 lines of Croatian words. Then a 1 inch ribbon followed by a gold flower sequined. Two tassels on each side. Blue folded over fringe top says ODSJ BR 56 N.H.Z Red, white and blue ribbon goes to V shape with fringes and a tassel in the middle. says HRV RAD.POD DRUZTVO DR. DAVID STARCEVIC ODSJ BR 56 N.H.Z ROSLYN, WASH. Was this a convention badge. I looked in the Soc. Security index and found Dr. David Starcevic in Montana and the dates would fit the person owning this badge. But I sure don't know how he was related to my Grandfather Blaz Starcevich or why it was with my Grandmother's things? Hope to hear from you all about this. Lucy Interested in visting Croatia? Click on the link below to find out about a wonderful tour of Croatia! http://www.kollander-travel.com/

Dr David Starcevic was a Croatian politician and elected representative in Croatian parliament (Sabor) in 19th century. Croatian Society NHZ in the US named a unit after him: http://www.interment.net/data/us/wa/kittitas/drstarc1/starcevic1.htm Here you can read the messages you deleted: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/croatia NHZ is Narodna Hrvatska Zajednica and Dr David Starcevic lodge #56 is I believe the same mentioned in the above note about the Roslyn cemetery. The surname is frequent in Croatia and it is not likely to establish family relation. Tatjana

Very interesting information. I couldn't sit at the computer and read all that info. Decided to read it next time I take a trip on a plane--after putting it on a cd. Looks like great reading. Thanks for the info. Lucy On Sat, 9 Apr 2005 14:46:32 -0700 "Jerome Buza" <[email protected]> wrote: > Frank, thank you for those maps and information. I am just starting > to work my way through the information. > Margaret > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Kurchina" > <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 7:27 AM > Subject: Re: [CROATIA-L] Balkans or southeastern Europe > > > > > > Perhaps some subscribers would like to read the definition of > >"Balkans" > > presented below : > > (However the printout in 1 inch thick) > > Maps below might be the better starting point ? > > > > TWENTY-FIVE LECTURES ON MODERN BALKAN HISTORY > > (THE BALKANS IN THE AGE OF NATIONALISM) > > by Steven W. Sowards > > http://www.lib.msu.edu/sowards/balkan/ > > > > List of Maps > > http://www.lib.msu.edu/sowards/balkan/maps.htm > > > > Bibliography > > http://www.lib.msu.edu/sowards/staff/balkan/bibliography.html > > > > v > > Frank Kurcina > > > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.1 - Release Date: 4/1/2005 > > > > >

There was a series of e-mails on the National Croatian Society on this listserve, and because I did not have any connection to this society, I did not read them and deleted all of them. Then my aunt died in Montana, and I went to her funeral. While there I visited with cousins from the Croatian lines and found a connection to this Society. My cousin showed me a badge that was red, white and blue with gold fringes. I made a copy of both sides of the badge? or name tag? that was pinned on the wearer. This badge came from my grandmother's things. None of us know how the person named on the badge is related and why she had it. The name was the same as our grandfather's. Any ideas or thoughts on how I can find out about this. Please give me a summary of the purpose, etc. of this society. I am sorry I didn't read and save this discussion, but I sure didn't know I would have a connection to it all. Would this society have any genealogical information? This is a description of the badge, which is 16 inches long and abt. 3 inches wide Pin on top left says National Croatian Society of the USA, the top right has 3 lines of Croatian words. Then a 1 inch ribbon followed by a gold flower sequined. Two tassels on each side. Blue folded over fringe top says ODSJ BR 56 N.H.Z Red, white and blue ribbon goes to V shape with fringes and a tassel in the middle. says HRV RAD.POD DRUZTVO DR. DAVID STARCEVIC ODSJ BR 56 N.H.Z ROSLYN, WASH. Was this a convention badge. I looked in the Soc. Security index and found Dr. David Starcevic in Montana and the dates would fit the person owning this badge. But I sure don't know how he was related to my Grandfather Blaz Starcevich or why it was with my Grandmother's things? Hope to hear from you all about this. Lucy

Patty, do not worry. Your sisters will like it so much, they will soon return to Croatia. And then they will have time to enjoy Zagreb at leisure. This time they are just sampling. Tatjana For those of you who have been to Croatia, my sisters are going in May and Zagreb is not on their itinerary. I keep telling them they are going to be sorry they missed it. Am I right? They are mainly staying in Split and visiting Dubrovnik, Karlobag, Krasno(family villages), Krk and then on to Bosnia. They will be there 9 days. Any suggestions to make them change their minds? Thanks, Patty --

Yes, yes you are correct.... but they already have more than a full plate for 9 short days! Robert "Reuter, Patty" <[email protected]> wrote: For those of you who have been to Croatia, my sisters are going in May and Zagreb is not on their itinerary. I keep telling them they are going to be sorry they missed it. Am I right? They are mainly staying in Split and visiting Dubrovnik, Karlobag, Krasno(family villages), Krk and then on to Bosnia. They will be there 9 days. Any suggestions to make them change their minds? Thanks, Patty -----Original Message----- From: palocat [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 12:40 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [CROATIA-L] Croatian restaurant We have been in Croatia, and liked it very much, and did enjoy several wonderful restaurants there. Also, visited the home towns of my grandparents -- Delnice and Brod na Kupi. Liked Zagreb too. Traveled the Adriatic Coast and also found it to be very beautiful. Matt On Apr 11, 2005, at 11:50 AM, [email protected] wrote: > Maybe the best way to enjoy a Croatian restaurant is to visit Croatia! > And who is to guide you better than our gourmet and amateur chef > Robert? > So, come October, on to the delights of sight and taste. > Tatjana > ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs SkyScan service. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit www.messagelabs.com. ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs SkyScan service. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit www.messagelabs.com. ________________________________________________________________________ Interested in visting Croatia? Click on the link below to find out about a wonderful tour of Croatia! http://www.kollander-travel.com/

Thanks Tatjana! My present girth atests to the fact that I enjoy cooking and eating :) Robert [email protected] wrote: Maybe the best way to enjoy a Croatian restaurant is to visit Croatia! And who is to guide you better than our gourmet and amateur chef Robert? So, come October, on to the delights of sight and taste. Tatjana Interested in visting Croatia? Click on the link below to find out about a wonderful tour of Croatia! http://www.kollander-travel.com/

Yes, they should definitely visit Zagreb -- it is a mistake to miss it -- it is a warm, vibrant, city -- very much like a small version of Vienna (Austria). Matt On Apr 11, 2005, at 12:52 PM, Reuter, Patty wrote: > For those of you who have been to Croatia, my sisters are going in May > and Zagreb is not on their itinerary. I keep telling them they are > going to be sorry they missed it. Am I right? They are mainly > staying in Split and visiting Dubrovnik, Karlobag, Krasno(family > villages), Krk and then on to Bosnia. They will be there 9 days. Any > suggestions to make them change their minds? > > > Thanks, > > Patty > > -----Original Message----- > From: palocat [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 12:40 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [CROATIA-L] Croatian restaurant > > > We have been in Croatia, and liked it very much, and did enjoy several > wonderful restaurants there. > Also, visited the home towns of my grandparents -- Delnice and Brod na > Kupi. Liked Zagreb too. > Traveled the Adriatic Coast and also found it to be very beautiful. > > Matt > > On Apr 11, 2005, at 11:50 AM, [email protected] wrote: > >> Maybe the best way to enjoy a Croatian restaurant is to visit Croatia! >> And who is to guide you better than our gourmet and amateur chef >> Robert? >> So, come October, on to the delights of sight and taste. >> Tatjana >> > > > _______________________________________________________________________ > _ > This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs SkyScan > service. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working > around the clock, around the globe, visit www.messagelabs.com. > _______________________________________________________________________ > _ > > _______________________________________________________________________ > _ > This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs SkyScan > service. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working > around the clock, around the globe, visit www.messagelabs.com. > _______________________________________________________________________ > _ >

For those of you who have been to Croatia, my sisters are going in May and Zagreb is not on their itinerary. I keep telling them they are going to be sorry they missed it. Am I right? They are mainly staying in Split and visiting Dubrovnik, Karlobag, Krasno(family villages), Krk and then on to Bosnia. They will be there 9 days. Any suggestions to make them change their minds? Thanks, Patty -----Original Message----- From: palocat [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 12:40 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [CROATIA-L] Croatian restaurant We have been in Croatia, and liked it very much, and did enjoy several wonderful restaurants there. Also, visited the home towns of my grandparents -- Delnice and Brod na Kupi. Liked Zagreb too. Traveled the Adriatic Coast and also found it to be very beautiful. Matt On Apr 11, 2005, at 11:50 AM, [email protected] wrote: > Maybe the best way to enjoy a Croatian restaurant is to visit Croatia! > And who is to guide you better than our gourmet and amateur chef > Robert? > So, come October, on to the delights of sight and taste. > Tatjana > ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs SkyScan service. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit www.messagelabs.com. ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs SkyScan service. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit www.messagelabs.com. ________________________________________________________________________

Maybe the best way to enjoy a Croatian restaurant is to visit Croatia! And who is to guide you better than our gourmet and amateur chef Robert? So, come October, on to the delights of sight and taste. Tatjana

We have been in Croatia, and liked it very much, and did enjoy several wonderful restaurants there. Also, visited the home towns of my grandparents -- Delnice and Brod na Kupi. Liked Zagreb too. Traveled the Adriatic Coast and also found it to be very beautiful. Matt On Apr 11, 2005, at 11:50 AM, [email protected] wrote: > Maybe the best way to enjoy a Croatian restaurant is to visit Croatia! > And who is to guide you better than our gourmet and amateur chef > Robert? > So, come October, on to the delights of sight and taste. > Tatjana >

If they have such a short time, they should probably miss Zagreb. Split is good for two days only, and only if you go to Trogir. Definitely spend most of the time at the other places. That's my opinion. I went for three weeks in 2003. Patty "Reuter, Patty" <[email protected]> wrote: For those of you who have been to Croatia, my sisters are going in May and Zagreb is not on their itinerary. I keep telling them they are going to be sorry they missed it. Am I right? They are mainly staying in Split and visiting Dubrovnik, Karlobag, Krasno(family villages), Krk and then on to Bosnia. They will be there 9 days. Any suggestions to make them change their minds? Thanks, Patty -----Original Message----- From: palocat [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 12:40 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [CROATIA-L] Croatian restaurant We have been in Croatia, and liked it very much, and did enjoy several wonderful restaurants there. Also, visited the home towns of my grandparents -- Delnice and Brod na Kupi. Liked Zagreb too. Traveled the Adriatic Coast and also found it to be very beautiful. Matt On Apr 11, 2005, at 11:50 AM, [email protected] wrote: > Maybe the best way to enjoy a Croatian restaurant is to visit Croatia! > And who is to guide you better than our gourmet and amateur chef > Robert? > So, come October, on to the delights of sight and taste. > Tatjana > ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs SkyScan service. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit www.messagelabs.com. ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs SkyScan service. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit www.messagelabs.com. ________________________________________________________________________

Wish I could come on the Croatian trip, but I have to win the lotto first. I want to go to Budapest, too. It is all a dream now. Margaret ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 9:50 AM Subject: Re: [CROATIA-L] Croatian restaurant > Maybe the best way to enjoy a Croatian restaurant is to visit Croatia! > And who is to guide you better than our gourmet and amateur chef Robert? > So, come October, on to the delights of sight and taste. > Tatjana > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.6 - Release Date: 4/11/2005 > >

Fortunately here in the Rockford area (also nicknamed the holely city) we have plenty of public courses and some country clubs, and it's not that exclusive. Thank God! If those people are out there hitting houses along the golf courses it's time for them to hang up their clubs... : ) There are subdivisions around the golf courses here, public and private, and very few homes get dinged that I know of. Dave Back to Croatian genealogy, there was an interesting story about a man named Racich from Croatia came to the US 40 years ago, and lives in Belvidere IL. He was down to his last $8.00 when he finally found work. Since then he started his own business, has helped others start there own ventures, and at one time was worth $4.3 now he says he's only worth about 2.1m. He has family in the Chicago suburbs, named Katich. The whole story was in Sundays Rockford Register Star. He Goes by Bosco, he was born on the Orthodox Christmas Day. Dave On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 17:24:27 -0700 "Jerome Buza" <[email protected]> writes: > Joining the golf course talk!!! Here in AZ, we have an over > abundance of > golf courses. Most are very expensive. Neither Jerry or I golf, > nor our > grown up kids, but my brother does. He bought his retirement home > in a sub > that was building homes before the course went in, so he got a great > buy. 7 > years later, he wanted a bigger home in the same sub and didn't want > to be > on the course any more (he had to replace windows, repair stucco, > etc, and > had to put netting around so they wouldn't get clunked in the head). > He > made about $60,000 on the sale and moved 2 blocks away to a bigger > slightly > higher priced home. It cost a fortune for fees and you have to > dress a > certain way and drive a cart and there are cart regulations. I > think it is > a rich man's sport. > Margaret > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "dave mothkovich" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 10:19 AM > Subject: Re: [CROATIA-L] Croatian restaurant > > > > Nick and Andy- > > Love the game, and the walk, except when the ball goes in the > drink. I > > think it would be great to go to Croatia and start up Golf courses > if > > they don't already have some. > > Dave > > On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 13:54:43 -0700 "Dr. Andrew Nixon" > > <[email protected]> writes: > >> Nick, > >> > >> Yes, subdivisions are built around some of them. As for me, like > >> you, I > >> never took up the game. We must be in the distinct minority. I > used > >> to enjoy > >> the walk occasionally when accompanying friends, but now I > >> understand, > >> nearly all courses require golf carts. > >> > >> Andy > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: nharamija [mailto:[email protected]] > >> Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 12:29 PM > >> To: [email protected] > >> Subject: Re: [CROATIA-L] Croatian restaurant > > >> No Andy; > >> I "Mean subdivisions" are built and a Golf course are built > around > >> them. > >> Heard several golfers talking in the line next to me when I was > >> checking in > >> last year. > >> I don't golf, never learned to chase a little ball. > >> Nick > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Dr. Andrew Nixon" <[email protected]> > >> To: <[email protected]> > >> Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 7:31 PM > >> Subject: RE: [CROATIA-L] Croatian restaurant > >> > >> > >> Hello Nick, > >> > >> Back in the days when I was teaching school all day and driving > taxi > >> much of > >> the night to keep body and soul together (remember when we could > do > >> that?) > >> there were about six golf courses in town - one Municipal, and > the > >> Dunes > >> (current site of the Bellagio), Tropicana (current site of the > MGM > >> Grand), > >> and Desert Inn, now site of the soon to open Wynn Las Vegas. > Those > >> are gone > >> but the other few still remain; Sahara (about 1.5 miles from the > >> hotel), the > >> Showboat (located way out in Henderson - now part of Green > Valley), > >> and > >> Louis Prima's Fairway to the Stars south of town that eventually > >> fell into > >> disrepair. > >> > >> The phone book currently lists 14 private courses and 44 (that > is > >> no > >> misprint) public courses. They include Badlands, which as its > name > >> implies, > >> is built in concert with the harsh desert environment, > Tournament > >> Player's > >> Club, which is a world class course, and one so exclusive that it > is > >> by > >> invitation only. And yes, many of the communities are built > around > >> courses. > >> > >> Andy > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: nharamija [mailto:[email protected]] > >> Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 12:06 PM > >> To: [email protected] > >> Subject: Re: [CROATIA-L] Croatian restaurant > >> > >> Andy ; Is it true that they build Golf courses "Around" > communities > >> out > >> there? > >> Nick > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Dr. Andrew Nixon" <[email protected]> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.5 - Release Date: > 4/7/2005 > > > > >