All, In case anyone needs to contact me privately (off the list) I'm changing my email address to Hotmail in order to make it accessible from anywhere in the world. Hopefully this will make it easier to keep up with the List while I'm traveling, like this July when we'll be in England. You can start using this address right away and I'll be able to better gauge whether I like this method and maybe I can become comfortable with it before this summer. Thanks. pat_ray@hotmail.com Ann, I'm so sorry to hear about your cousin. I wish you and all his family well. Donna, I don't have this family in my database but I'm glad you posted them. Maybe someone else will have something for Deanna. I suppose she has no clue to the parents of Samuel S.? I have one Samuel S. who was married to a Mary BARBER but that was in the late 1800s. Not the same ones. Pat p.s. I know I still owe some people answers. I'm getting there, I think! <G> _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com