Chuck, The reason you are confused with the Wicker chart is that there have been revisions in the Wicker English portion of the lineage since we talked quite a long time ago as new documentation was found. The ANCESTRY chart sent the list was my direct line & I go through John Whicker the brother of Richard. Both sons of "old" Henry. Henry's issue are: Richard b. ca 1520, Robert b. ca 1525-30, Maryan, Margaret who md. Tristram Guppy, a daughter (name unknown) who md. John Fayton, another daughter (name unknown) who md. John Cranyn and John who died 9 June 1584 and who md. Agnes (maiden name unknown.) A DESC. chart would have given you Richard as well as the other children of Henry. Hope this helps. Let me know if I can help further. Hazel