Pat and David, In reference to Pat' Feb.'98 post, have we ever resolved the 2 Johns for David CREWS & Mary STANLEY & the 2 James's for Thos. & Susannah? Do we know who Aggy Portwood really married in 1810? Additionally, did Amy BRIGHT really marry Jesse CREWS in 1791 because I am showing some children born prior to that. Am I missing a 2nd marriage here? Hazel ----- Original Message ----- From: David Harris <david77@freewwweb.com> To: <CREWS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 25, 1999 3:28 PM Subject: [CREWS-L] Leonidas, Reuben, Martin Crews Line > Charlie, > Glad to hear we were on target with your line. I believe you have the > oldest and best documented Crews line in the state of Georgia and the > only one I know of that can be traced back to Virginia. I forgot to > mention before that I have a marriage certificate written by John Crews, > son of Stanley. He acted as Justice of the Peace in Camden Co., GA and > performed the marriage on 1 Oct. 1813. On the other side is the license > written by Isaac Crews, Clerk of the Court in Camden. The document > contains a sample of both men's penmanship and signatures. They were not > related as far as I know. Below, I've compiled a little of what has been > said about David and John Crews in our archives. > David > > > > > > > CNIDR Isearch-cgi 1.20.06 (File: 37) > > ============================================================ > Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 21:51:06, -0500 > From: MRS PATRICIA A RAY<PatRay@prodigy.com > > To: CREWS-L@rootsweb.com > Message-Id: <199802140251.VAA04342@mime2.prodigy.com> > Subject: [CREWS-L] Correction > Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > OK, let's try this again. Please X-out the previous posting of the > Desc's of David CREWS & Mary STANLEY and use this one. I had some of > the children of Jesse CREWS in the wrong generation and that threw me > off below them. > > David CREWS & Mary STANLEY Descendants > 2- John (possibly) CREWS Sr. b. bet 1733 and 1754 VA (to KY 1783), m. > Sallie (Jane?) ___? > 3- Elijah CREWS > 4- Squire CREWS > 3- John CREWS b. bet 1750/1795 m. Aggy PORTWOOD 1810 > 3- Robert CREWS > 2- John CREWS b. bet 1700/1740 m. Jane ____? > 3- Thomas CREWS b. 1755 VA (or abt 1760) d. 1828 Howard Co MO m. > Susannah ____? abt 1780 > she d. bef 1801 > 4- David D. CREWS b. 1775 (1789?) d. 1846 Randolph Co MO m. > Elizabeth "Betsy" MAUPIN > 4- James CREWS b. bet 1780/1790 d. 1833 m. Drucilla (Druscilla) > FOWLER > 4- James (or John James) CREWS b. bet 1775/1780 d. 1832 (1833?) > m. Aggy B. PORTWOOD > 1810 Madison Co, KY > 4- Elizabeth "Betsy" CREWS b. 1777 (to MO w/husband) Ephraim > (MOBERLY) MOBLEY > 4- Wm. CREWS b. 1779 (c1780) d. 1823 Madison Co, MO(?) m. > Rebecca MASSEY > 4- Thomas CREWS II b. 1784 d. 1844 Boone Co MO m. Sally > BLACKWELL 1808 KY > 5- Robert > 5- Dawson D. > 5- Frances > 5- Nancy > 4- Joseph CREWS b. 1785 (1780/90) (1788/1790) d. 1837 (1827) m. > Nancy MORRIS 1807 KY > 4- Hiram CREWS b. 1795 (abt 1770/1828) m. Polly SMITH > 4- Enoch CREWS b. 1797 to Howard Co, MO 1850 m. Sarah "Sally" > TOLSON 1828 MO > 2nd spouse of Thomas CREWS > Dicey CHAMMAN/CHANMORE m. 1801 Madison Co, KY > 3- Jesse CREWS b. c1755 Bedford Co, VA (c1765?) m. Amy BRIGHT 1791 > (by 1823 Madison Co, KY) > 4- Mary CREWS b. Bedford Co, VA d. 1810 m. George W. STANLEY SR > 1791 > 4- Ann/Amy CREWS m. John (Jack) GRAY > 4- Rachel CREWS m. David BOWLES/BOYLE 1808 Bedford Co, VA > 4- Edward CREWS b. c 1785 VA m. Lauraine PALMORE 1802 Bedford Co > , VA > 2nd spouse of Edward CREWS > Sena/Lena WILLIAMS 1808 Campbell Co > 4- David CREWS b. c1789 d. 1820 Madison Co, KY m. Lydia "Liddy" > WILLIAMS 1810 Bedford Co VA > 4- Elizabeth Ann "Betsy" CREWS b. 1795 Bradford VA m. John S. > BEACH Sr. > 4- Stanley CREWS b. 1796 (abt 1795?) m. Polly CANOTE/CARNOTS > 1822 Madison Co, KY > 4- Charles CREWS b. c1800 d. 1847 Boone Co, MO (bef 1847?) m. > Jane/Jailey BARCLAY 1824 Ky > 4- Jesse CREWS m. Delia JOHNSON 1824 Madison Co, MO > 3- John CREWS b. c1764 (of Bedford Co, VA, to Burke Co, GA) m. > Clarissa (Clary) MERRITT 1798 > Bedford Co, VA > 4- Prosser (Pross) CREWS b. 1801 VA (lived Hart Co, KY) d. 1865 > KY m. Sarah Frances "Fanny" FERGUSON c1825 > 4- Willis CREWS > 4- Mary CREWS m. Wm. LARKIN Hardin Co, KY > 2- Elizabeth CREWS dis for mou, m. 1753 who? > 2- David Milton CREWS b. 1740 (or 1748/49 Henrico Co VA?) d. 1821 > Madison Co, KY m. (1) Anna "Annie" Magee > 2- Gideon D. CREWS b. 1742 VA d. 1790 Madison co, KY m. Anna MCQUEEN > 1762 VA > 2- Mary "Polly" CREWS b. c1769 d. aft 1811 m. Charles (/Thomas?) BALLEW > III > 2- Stanley (possibly) CREWS > > Wife #2 of David CREWS > Mary (wid/Magee) LADD 1754 Hanover Co, VA d/o Wm. LADD & Huldah BINFORD > > There are still two Johns for David CREWS & Mary STANLEY and I wish we > could resolve that. Also two James's for Thomas CREWS & Susannah ___? > but one might be John James so if we could pin that down there would > only be one James and one John. > > ______________________________ > ------------------------------ > > CNIDR Isearch-cgi 1.20.06 (File: 64) > > ============================================================ > Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 10:44:40 EST > From: <EAGLEDB@aol.com> > To: CREWS-L@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <22d78145.36f66568@aol.com> > Subject: [CREWS-L] DAVID CREWS > Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit > > METES AND BOUNDS II: DAVID CREWS, ANCESTORS & DESCENDANTS by Donna > Hechler > Porter pg. 36 > David CREW, son of John CREW and possibly Sarah GATLEY, married > May LEAD > MAGEE on 8 August 1754 at the Friends Meeting House at the Swamp in > Hanover > County. (1) Their marriage brought together a rather ample stepfamily. > David > Milton CREWS was 14 years old, and it's possible brothers John CREWS and > Stanley CREWS and sister Mary CREWS were still younger. Mary brought > with her > an even larger family of all girls. While two daughters had already > married > (one to Gatley CREW, son of John), there was still Sarah MAGEE, Martha > MAGEE, > Lydia MAGEE, Rebecca MAGEE, Annie MAGEE, and possibly a young son named > John > MAGEE. Judging by their marriage dates, all the MAGEES, at least, were > under > the age of 14 at the time of the marriage. Six years later Annie would > marry > her stepbrother David Milton CREWS. > It has already been determined that David CREW felt less loyalty > and devotion > to the Society than did his father and brothers. Mary probably felt > quite a > bit more, for the Friends had been helping her through her bad times > since > Samuel's death around 1750. Their children, it would seem, had even > less > inclination to become "good Quakers" than they did, however. At the 1 > April > 1758 Henrico County Monthly Meeting Lydia MAGEE, daughter of Samuel > deceased, > and Mary (LEAD MAGEE) CREW, was dismissed for marriage out of unity. > Her > mother was also dismissed for a time for charges that she aided the > marriage, > although the charges were eventually dropped. (2) > That same day David CREW was placed under the care of the > meeting for > "neglecting his children," and was placed on probation. Whenever the > council > reprimanded children, the parents were reprimanded as well. The > transgression > of children was considered to be the parent's fault as much as the > child's. A > parent was considered negligent if they allowed their child to make poor > decisions, such as marriage out of unity, or joining in militia duty, > etc. It > doesn't necessarily mean that the parent was denying the child food, > clothing, > shelter, or any of the necessities of life. On 6 May 1758, a month > after his > probation, David CREWS of Hanover County and a member of Black Creek > Meeting > was dismissed for neglecting his children. (3) (Black Creek was way > over in > New Kent County. I don't understand how he could have been from the > Black > Creek meeting but been in Hanover County.) I am curious as to why he > was > dismissed, however, and Mary was not? Of course, by this time, David's > own > daughter, Elizabeth had been dismissed for a similar marriage in 1753, > and his > son David Milton CREWS had probably already served in the militia at > least > once since his 1760 grievance was his second offense. Perhaps David's > dismissal was for a number of reasons. He apparently chose to never > make > restitution after this last dismissal and consequently disappears from > Quaker > records. He died in 1766 in Virginia and his death was reported in the > "Virginia Gazette." (4) > > 11 Jul 1766, DAVID CREWS-"Also to be sold, the fee-simple estate of a > tract of land in New Kent Co, on Great Skimino Creek, containing about > 200 acres, lately the property of David Crews, deceased...... the latter > will be sold to the highest bidder at the New Kent court, in August > next, on two months credit. Harry Thompkins (Virginia Gazette) > > > pg. 37 > > We know nothing more of Mary LEAD MAGEE CREW, as she too > disappears from > Quaker records altogether. The story continues with the marriage of > their > stepchildren. > (1) Hinshaw, William Wade. Encyclopedia of American Quaker Genealogy, > Volume > 6, Virginia. (Ann Arbor: Edwards Brothers, Inc., 1950), pg. 165: > hereafter > referred to as Hinshaw. > (2) Hinshaw, pg. 197 > (3) Hinshaw, pg. 167 > (4) Rosemary Hill, New Braunfels, Texas, 1994 > > "By adverting to the dignity of this high calling, our ancestors have > turned a > savage wilderness into a glorious empire: and have made the most > extensive and > the only honorable conquests, not by destroying, but by promoting the > wealth, > the number, the happiness of the human race." Edmund Burke > > Barb > > ______________________________ > ------------------------------ > >