Charlie, Glad to hear we were on target with your line. I believe you have the oldest and best documented Crews line in the state of Georgia and the only one I know of that can be traced back to Virginia. I forgot to mention before that I have a marriage certificate written by John Crews, son of Stanley. He acted as Justice of the Peace in Camden Co., GA and performed the marriage on 1 Oct. 1813. On the other side is the license written by Isaac Crews, Clerk of the Court in Camden. The document contains a sample of both men's penmanship and signatures. They were not related as far as I know. Below, I've compiled a little of what has been said about David and John Crews in our archives. David CNIDR Isearch-cgi 1.20.06 (File: 37) ============================================================ Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 21:51:06, -0500 From: MRS PATRICIA A RAY<PatRay@prodigy.com > To: CREWS-L@rootsweb.com Message-Id: <199802140251.VAA04342@mime2.prodigy.com> Subject: [CREWS-L] Correction Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii OK, let's try this again. Please X-out the previous posting of the Desc's of David CREWS & Mary STANLEY and use this one. I had some of the children of Jesse CREWS in the wrong generation and that threw me off below them. David CREWS & Mary STANLEY Descendants 2- John (possibly) CREWS Sr. b. bet 1733 and 1754 VA (to KY 1783), m. Sallie (Jane?) ___? 3- Elijah CREWS 4- Squire CREWS 3- John CREWS b. bet 1750/1795 m. Aggy PORTWOOD 1810 3- Robert CREWS 2- John CREWS b. bet 1700/1740 m. Jane ____? 3- Thomas CREWS b. 1755 VA (or abt 1760) d. 1828 Howard Co MO m. Susannah ____? abt 1780 she d. bef 1801 4- David D. CREWS b. 1775 (1789?) d. 1846 Randolph Co MO m. Elizabeth "Betsy" MAUPIN 4- James CREWS b. bet 1780/1790 d. 1833 m. Drucilla (Druscilla) FOWLER 4- James (or John James) CREWS b. bet 1775/1780 d. 1832 (1833?) m. Aggy B. PORTWOOD 1810 Madison Co, KY 4- Elizabeth "Betsy" CREWS b. 1777 (to MO w/husband) Ephraim (MOBERLY) MOBLEY 4- Wm. CREWS b. 1779 (c1780) d. 1823 Madison Co, MO(?) m. Rebecca MASSEY 4- Thomas CREWS II b. 1784 d. 1844 Boone Co MO m. Sally BLACKWELL 1808 KY 5- Robert 5- Dawson D. 5- Frances 5- Nancy 4- Joseph CREWS b. 1785 (1780/90) (1788/1790) d. 1837 (1827) m. Nancy MORRIS 1807 KY 4- Hiram CREWS b. 1795 (abt 1770/1828) m. Polly SMITH 4- Enoch CREWS b. 1797 to Howard Co, MO 1850 m. Sarah "Sally" TOLSON 1828 MO 2nd spouse of Thomas CREWS Dicey CHAMMAN/CHANMORE m. 1801 Madison Co, KY 3- Jesse CREWS b. c1755 Bedford Co, VA (c1765?) m. Amy BRIGHT 1791 (by 1823 Madison Co, KY) 4- Mary CREWS b. Bedford Co, VA d. 1810 m. George W. STANLEY SR 1791 4- Ann/Amy CREWS m. John (Jack) GRAY 4- Rachel CREWS m. David BOWLES/BOYLE 1808 Bedford Co, VA 4- Edward CREWS b. c 1785 VA m. Lauraine PALMORE 1802 Bedford Co , VA 2nd spouse of Edward CREWS Sena/Lena WILLIAMS 1808 Campbell Co 4- David CREWS b. c1789 d. 1820 Madison Co, KY m. Lydia "Liddy" WILLIAMS 1810 Bedford Co VA 4- Elizabeth Ann "Betsy" CREWS b. 1795 Bradford VA m. John S. BEACH Sr. 4- Stanley CREWS b. 1796 (abt 1795?) m. Polly CANOTE/CARNOTS 1822 Madison Co, KY 4- Charles CREWS b. c1800 d. 1847 Boone Co, MO (bef 1847?) m. Jane/Jailey BARCLAY 1824 Ky 4- Jesse CREWS m. Delia JOHNSON 1824 Madison Co, MO 3- John CREWS b. c1764 (of Bedford Co, VA, to Burke Co, GA) m. Clarissa (Clary) MERRITT 1798 Bedford Co, VA 4- Prosser (Pross) CREWS b. 1801 VA (lived Hart Co, KY) d. 1865 KY m. Sarah Frances "Fanny" FERGUSON c1825 4- Willis CREWS 4- Mary CREWS m. Wm. LARKIN Hardin Co, KY 2- Elizabeth CREWS dis for mou, m. 1753 who? 2- David Milton CREWS b. 1740 (or 1748/49 Henrico Co VA?) d. 1821 Madison Co, KY m. (1) Anna "Annie" Magee 2- Gideon D. CREWS b. 1742 VA d. 1790 Madison co, KY m. Anna MCQUEEN 1762 VA 2- Mary "Polly" CREWS b. c1769 d. aft 1811 m. Charles (/Thomas?) BALLEW III 2- Stanley (possibly) CREWS Wife #2 of David CREWS Mary (wid/Magee) LADD 1754 Hanover Co, VA d/o Wm. LADD & Huldah BINFORD There are still two Johns for David CREWS & Mary STANLEY and I wish we could resolve that. Also two James's for Thomas CREWS & Susannah ___? but one might be John James so if we could pin that down there would only be one James and one John. ______________________________ - ---------------------------- CNIDR Isearch-cgi 1.20.06 (File: 64) ============================================================ Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 10:44:40 EST From: <EAGLEDB@aol.com> To: CREWS-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <22d78145.36f66568@aol.com> Subject: [CREWS-L] DAVID CREWS Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit METES AND BOUNDS II: DAVID CREWS, ANCESTORS & DESCENDANTS by Donna Hechler Porter pg. 36 David CREW, son of John CREW and possibly Sarah GATLEY, married May LEAD MAGEE on 8 August 1754 at the Friends Meeting House at the Swamp in Hanover County. (1) Their marriage brought together a rather ample stepfamily. David Milton CREWS was 14 years old, and it's possible brothers John CREWS and Stanley CREWS and sister Mary CREWS were still younger. Mary brought with her an even larger family of all girls. While two daughters had already married (one to Gatley CREW, son of John), there was still Sarah MAGEE, Martha MAGEE, Lydia MAGEE, Rebecca MAGEE, Annie MAGEE, and possibly a young son named John MAGEE. Judging by their marriage dates, all the MAGEES, at least, were under the age of 14 at the time of the marriage. Six years later Annie would marry her stepbrother David Milton CREWS. It has already been determined that David CREW felt less loyalty and devotion to the Society than did his father and brothers. Mary probably felt quite a bit more, for the Friends had been helping her through her bad times since Samuel's death around 1750. Their children, it would seem, had even less inclination to become "good Quakers" than they did, however. At the 1 April 1758 Henrico County Monthly Meeting Lydia MAGEE, daughter of Samuel deceased, and Mary (LEAD MAGEE) CREW, was dismissed for marriage out of unity. Her mother was also dismissed for a time for charges that she aided the marriage, although the charges were eventually dropped. (2) That same day David CREW was placed under the care of the meeting for "neglecting his children," and was placed on probation. Whenever the council reprimanded children, the parents were reprimanded as well. The transgression of children was considered to be the parent's fault as much as the child's. A parent was considered negligent if they allowed their child to make poor decisions, such as marriage out of unity, or joining in militia duty, etc. It doesn't necessarily mean that the parent was denying the child food, clothing, shelter, or any of the necessities of life. On 6 May 1758, a month after his probation, David CREWS of Hanover County and a member of Black Creek Meeting was dismissed for neglecting his children. (3) (Black Creek was way over in New Kent County. I don't understand how he could have been from the Black Creek meeting but been in Hanover County.) I am curious as to why he was dismissed, however, and Mary was not? Of course, by this time, David's own daughter, Elizabeth had been dismissed for a similar marriage in 1753, and his son David Milton CREWS had probably already served in the militia at least once since his 1760 grievance was his second offense. Perhaps David's dismissal was for a number of reasons. He apparently chose to never make restitution after this last dismissal and consequently disappears from Quaker records. He died in 1766 in Virginia and his death was reported in the "Virginia Gazette." (4) 11 Jul 1766, DAVID CREWS-"Also to be sold, the fee-simple estate of a tract of land in New Kent Co, on Great Skimino Creek, containing about 200 acres, lately the property of David Crews, deceased...... the latter will be sold to the highest bidder at the New Kent court, in August next, on two months credit. Harry Thompkins (Virginia Gazette) pg. 37 We know nothing more of Mary LEAD MAGEE CREW, as she too disappears from Quaker records altogether. The story continues with the marriage of their stepchildren. (1) Hinshaw, William Wade. Encyclopedia of American Quaker Genealogy, Volume 6, Virginia. (Ann Arbor: Edwards Brothers, Inc., 1950), pg. 165: hereafter referred to as Hinshaw. (2) Hinshaw, pg. 197 (3) Hinshaw, pg. 167 (4) Rosemary Hill, New Braunfels, Texas, 1994 "By adverting to the dignity of this high calling, our ancestors have turned a savage wilderness into a glorious empire: and have made the most extensive and the only honorable conquests, not by destroying, but by promoting the wealth, the number, the happiness of the human race." Edmund Burke Barb ______________________________ - ----------------------------