Dan, We have the 5 J's, children of "our broken-hearted" John CREW who wanted to marry Judith LADD but the church wouldn't approve. They were too closely related. So he m. Sarah and I don't know who she is. Elaine Rowland speculated that she was Sarah REDMON. (1) We have John CREW as s/o Andrew CREW & Hannah ELLYSON who was s/o John CREW & Sarah GATLEY. (2) You have a point but I don't think the church would wait that long. But what do I know about their workings? This will take some study. (3) Brenda, you can take this one. <G> BTW, Judith LADD never married.