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In a message dated 97-12-20 17:08:26 EST, you write: << This "subject" is always brought up on list and here I go bringing it up. It would be nice if the Subject line included the word Crews in it. Why? Well if you are on several mail list you might be getting several hundred messages per day. To weed out the messages that don't interest you, you would be checking subject or names of senders. I am afraid that I might miss the message that would be the answer to a lot of my family questions as I don't know everyone's name who might post and some of the subjects would never indicate it had anything to do with the Crews family. Just a thought and not meant to cause any hardships or a lot of discussions. Look forward to reading the notes for this area of the lists and to participate when there is something that I have that may help you. Sincerely, Bill Crews >> The list owner can easily do this by going to the utilities page. Also it can be set up to reply to the list instead of the sender. Chuck Demastus

DESCENDANTS OF GIDEON ELLYSON =========== == ====== ======= Don Norman 1.GIDEON ELLYSON Gideon Ellyson was probably born about 1735. He married Marjorie Stanley. Known children of Gideon and Marjorie (Stanley) Ellyson. 2. (1). Zachariah b.Oct 6 1762 d.Mar 3 1837 m.Mary Votow 2.ZACHARIAH ELLYSON 1.GIDEON ELLYSON Zachariah Ellyson, a son of Gideon and Marjorie (Stanley) Ellyson, was born October 6, 1762 and died in Columbiana County OH March 3, 1837. He married Mary Votow. Mary, a daughter of Isaac and Mary (Smith) Votow, was born in Louden County VA October 12, 1768 and died in Columbus, OH April 23, 1844. Children of Zachariah and Mary (Votow) Ellyson. 3. (1). Gideon b.Oct 21 1791 d.Dec 20 1877 m.Elizabeth Stephens Mar 30 1825 4. (2).Zachariah b.Apr 2 1793 d.Dec 3 1867 m.Mary Ann Talbott 5. (3). Robert b.Apr 11 1796 d.Oct 15 1872 m.Hannah Butler 6. (4). William b.Oct 9 1798 7. (5). Margery b.Oct 20 1800 d.Jun 13 1891 m.John Crew 8. (6). Anna b.Jun 3 1803 d.Jul 25 1885 m.Samuel C. Reeve 9. (7). John b.Feb 6 1806 m.Lydia Street 10. (8). Josephine b.Dc 21 1807 11. (9). Mary b.Sep 17 1812 m.Isaac Kile ************************************************************************ The entire Ellyson file is at this link. David http://www.rootsweb.com/~hcpd/norman/ELLYSON

In a message dated 97-12-20 22:10:14 EST, [email protected] writes: << Just coincidentally ran across an old picture yesterday that had belonged to my great aunt. It is a picture of her friend Jospehine Garland, the spouse and presumably the best man and bride's maid. It is an 8x11 brown tone. It was taken in Birmingham, ALA about 1930. If you find your line runs to ALA, let me know and I will send you a copy. Donna >>

This "subject" is always brought up on list and here I go bringing it up. It would be nice if the Subject line included the word Crews in it. Why? Well if you are on several mail list you might be getting several hundred messages per day. To weed out the messages that don't interest you, you would be checking subject or names of senders. I am afraid that I might miss the message that would be the answer to a lot of my family questions as I don't know everyone's name who might post and some of the subjects would never indicate it had anything to do with the Crews family. Just a thought and not meant to cause any hardships or a lot of discussions. Look forward to reading the notes for this area of the lists and to participate when there is something that I have that may help you. Sincerely, Bill Crews

In a message dated 97-12-19 18:33:09 EST, you write: << I do not think our John Crew who md. Sarah Gatley had a prior wife. I think Catherine belonged to a different John Crew....possibly the one involved with the Pleasant woman. Anyway, due to his age at time of marriage to Sarah, I just can't quite accept that. >> above from Hazel to Chuck Pat & Hazel You both agree on this point. I'm deleting Catherine for the time being as I have no primary source. Chuck Demastus

In a message dated 97-12-19 18:31:18 EST, you write: << I am now searching for their Talley parents - have had a lead saying Nicholas Talley, but another person stated he could find no connection. Anyone with Talley connections? >> Descendants of Nicholas Talley 1 Nicholas TALLEY .. +Mary ______ . 2 Sally TALLEY d: Bef. 1786 ..... +Thomas WHICKER b: 1 Jun 1760 in Hanover Co, VA m: 27 Mar 1780 d: Jun 1818 in Jefferson Township, Fayette Co, OH Father: Benjamin WHICKER, Jr. Mother: Elizabeth ______

David H., You've really kept me busy today! I visited all the sites you mentioned and gathered as much as I could get. Re: Message #4 - I didn't have this James or his children. This must be the James some people suspect is father of John CREW b. c1630 d. 1660. I wish they included more dates or something. So frustrating. Re: message of STANLEY data - I printed out all the STANLEY, CREWS, and other names that I found. This one is a real treasure-trove! I recommend it to all of you. Re: message of CREW-STANLEY data - Really early stuff but I find no connection. I did take what I could for future ref. Re: John CREW deed - Thanks for that. Re: Will of John PLEASANTS - Fascinating PLEASANTS data, tons of it. The only CREWS/PLEASANTS marriage I have is John CREW who m. Sarah PLEASANTS in Halifax Co, Va. This was back in the 1760s or so. He was brother of Richard. I guess a nephew of Sarahs' could have been named after her husband John. Re Message #9 - Did you write to Brian Walls? I found his reference to the death date of John CREW interesting. If he was b. 1660 and d. 1713 then it's definately NOT the John CREW who m. Sarah GATTLEY! Re: John CREWS - I don't recognize those parish names, either. Sounds very English to me, but I don't know. Don't have any Symon/Simon CREWS (or CRUSE) in db that early. All are much later. ........................ Donna & all, I don't how we can get so many marriage lists and still not have all the CREWS marriages. Every one seems to have more people we don't have! It's absolutely mind-boggling. But thanks, Donna. They'll go into the db, too. ........................ Rosemary, I run all my DOS programs under Windows, too, but they won't print on this printer. I think I'll get my old one back from my son, Casey! My 'puter doctor said the printer probably isn't configured to print dos. It says "For Windows" right on the front of it! Wish I'd known what THAT meant when I bought it. ........................ Posted by Lyn Swan in 1994 to Worldwide Gen. Message Board <[email protected]> if she's still there. 2453 Geranium St, S.D. CA 92109 619-270-5684 [email protected] That's all her I.D. as she posted it. "The children of Johnson MONROE (574) and Amelia HOOPER are (in order): Nancy - m. James CRUSE 9 Feb 1805 William James Johnson Susannah m. James OWEN Polly David m. Nancy CREWS Milly Patsy m. Peter CREWS Mathew Hooper b 25 Mar 1800 m. Rebecca ALLEE/ALLEEN Elisabeth" She says children of Nancy MUNROE & James CRUSE may be: Hooper CREWS 2 males Amelia CREWS m. David WRIGHT 11 Sep 1828 Other children? Susannah MUNROE & James OWEN ch may be: Johnson Monroe OWEN m. Eliza COOK 23 Dec 1836 d/o Moses COOK Other children? "Other possible allied families are PEDIGO, GLAZEBROOK, DODDY/DOWDY, CRENSHAW, ALLEE/ALLEEN and others. From IL land records it appears members of most mentioned families moved to IL starting around 1838. Most to Wayne and Cass Cty. Migration continues at least into the 1850's as the Mathew Hooper MONROE family (my line) moved to Cass Cty, IL in 1852. He's the only one I'm positive about!" ................................. Posted by Stephen Tuttle 1994 <[email protected]> or <[email protected]> William BROWN (5830) b. 1801 NC, m. 1824 KY to Louisiana WILLIAMS b. 1811 Va Many children including: Susan m. David Morton CREWS Emeline m. Levi PARKE .................................. Also posted by Stephen Tuttle in 1994 his ggg-gf was William GARLAND b. 1 Feb 1817 Knox Co, KY; d. 26 Jun 1872 Pike Co. His mother may have been Rachel (---?) GARLAND also in Knox Co , KY; b. c1797 SC m. (1) ? (2) Margaret son by first wife - Thomas m. Rachael Ellen CORN prob Pike Co they had at least 12 ch. - 2nd youngest Reubin Frederick (Fred) b. 21 Sep 1884 Otwell, IN; d. 8 Apr 1956 Jasper IN; m. 8 Aug 1912 Mt. Carmel IL Eliza Bell BEADLES They had many ch including Lawrence Melvin b. 2 May 1914 Winslow, IN; d. 8 Jul 1988 Owensboro KY; m. 11 Dec 1941 Taswell IN to Creta Irene CREWS child: Patricia Lee GARLAND b 28 Jul 1946 Indianapolis. We have in db Mattie A. GARLAND m.1893 Cullen CREWS. Don't know if she's from same family but wouldn't be surprised. ................................. Have you all finished your shopping? I HAVE! And wrapping! More later Pat

I found following in Stokes records - sent out before, but sending now to rest of list. Stokes Co. Deed Book 12-401: "This is to certify that I did sell my brother-in-law Thomas Crews a Negro girl by name of Elizabeth for value received about the year 1779." This record was dated Nov. 7, 1799 and signed by Reuben Talley. It was placed in the Stokes Deed Book June, 1839 in order to prove ownership for estate purposes. Thus, Reuben Talley was the brother of Mary (Polly) Crews who married Thomas Crews ca.1769 in Granville Co. Of course, I am now searching for their Talley parents - have had a lead saying Nicholas Talley, but another person stated he could find no connection. Anyone with Talley connections? Bob

Hi all, I just wanted to send a huge "thank you" to all of you who have helped me so very much with the Crews info; it is much appreciated. And wanted to wish everyone a very Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year! Ms. Gray Smith Harmon

Pat, I just noticed you say you have 9 of Littleberry's siblings..I have only 8. We'll have to see about this extra kid! Hael

I have just had a message (don't know if it went out to the list or not) giving the maiden name of Thomas CREWS wife. (Thomas born ca 1748/53) He says it was Mary (Polly) TALLEY (1752-1836)! I am SO excited to get this info. having searched for years and had given up that I would never know!! Don't tell me this list isn't absolutely terrific!! Hazel

Pat, I worked with John Dwiggins quite a long time ago. He's a nice guy. Incidentally, the parents of Thomas CREWS, husb. to Mary____was determined to be Joseph CREWS and Massie JOHNS(T)ON. Hazel On Fri, 19 Dec 1997, MRS PATRICIA A RAY wrote: > Found this on the Worldwife Genealogical Message Board Archive, Ancestry > , Inc. It was posted 30 Nov 1995 by John Dwiggins <72713. > 2027#compuserve.com> and sent to Roots-L Genealogy List. I'm just > posting part of it. If anyone want all the post, let me know. > > "My line of descent, all in Davie County, NC is: > > John DWIGGINS (to the best my research indicates at this time) died 1815 > in Rowan Co, NC (the area that became Davie Co. > Daniel DWIGGINS (1779-1856) m. Ursula CREWS (1785-1867) > Ashley DWIGGINS (1805-1889) m. Mary HOLMAN (1802- ) > Daniel Holman DWIGGINS (1835-1916) m. Louisa E. VOSS (1837-1931) > John Henry DWIGGINS (1858-1943) m. Mattie SMOOT (1861-1910) > Rufus DWIGGINS (1900-1991) m. Pearl HENDREN (1910-1994) > John Charles DWIGGINS Sr. (1935-1994) m. Jerleen BASINGER (1937- ) > John Charles DWIGGINS Jr. (me) (1955- ) > > "There were apparently two Dwiggins families in North Carolina in the > late 1700s and early 1800s. One was John Dwiggins descendents that were > in Rowan/Davie/Forsyth counties and the other was Robert Dwiggins > descendents in Guilford County. Most of the Guilford set moved on to Tn > , Ind, OH and Ill in the early 1800's. The only male member of the > Davie set that I know of that left the state in the 1800s was John > Dwiggins>Robert > Dwiggins>Robert Dwiggins moved to Tennessee." > > Ursula (or Usley) CREWS was d/o Thomas & Mary CREWS of Stokes Co, NC. > The cemetery list that Bob posted yesterday seems to be of the Robert > DWIGGINS line mentioned about which is so intriguing because there are > also so many CREWS buried there. I'll list her family again: > > children of Thomas (b. c1753) & Mary CREWS (I have no parents for him) > 1. Ashley b. 1779 m. Catherine ___? > 2. Mary b. 1781 m. Solomon WARREN > 3. Ursula b. 1783 m. Daniel DWIGGINS > 4. Saley b. 1785 m. George JORDAN - Any relation, Bob? > 5. Constant b. 1787 m. Benj. WICKER > 6. Patsey b. 1789 m. ____ DWIGGINS - Who was he? > 7. Elizabeth b. 1 Jan 1790 m. Archelous DEAN > 8. Mildred b. 1791 m. Jesse FRY > 9. Thomas b. c1795 m. Sarah BAXTER > 10. Masey b. c1797 m. Jesse FRY > > I have a feeling that those two lines were related to each other. > Notice in Bobs' list that there is a Milly FRY d. 1821. That's Mildred > CREWS listed above. Looks like she was only 30 when she died, then > Jesse married her sister, Masey. Other family names JORDAN. Was that > George JORDAN listed above? Was another name Saley, or Sarah JORDAN. > Oh, he also listed a Martha DWIGGINS wife of Robert. That must be #6 > above, Patsey and she married Robert DWIGGINS? NOW WE KNOW! > This is fun! But I don't see any more links. Anyone else see anything? > Most of those listed are later generations, but it would be wonderful to > know how they tie in. > .................................. > I have a suggestion for all those doing postings here. As I've been > going back over older postings I find that those that capitalize the > last names are ever so much easier to read. I've decided to go back to > doing that myself and I'd like to urge the rest of you to do the same. > .................................. > from Tom Miller <[email protected]> > Parents of Madison BURDETTE who m. Indiana Limmer CREWS (15009) are: > Isham BURDETTE and Nancy SHUMATE > .................................. > > More later, Pat > >

Found this on the Worldwife Genealogical Message Board Archive, Ancestry , Inc. It was posted 30 Nov 1995 by John Dwiggins <72713. 2027#compuserve.com> and sent to Roots-L Genealogy List. I'm just posting part of it. If anyone want all the post, let me know. "My line of descent, all in Davie County, NC is: John DWIGGINS (to the best my research indicates at this time) died 1815 in Rowan Co, NC (the area that became Davie Co. Daniel DWIGGINS (1779-1856) m. Ursula CREWS (1785-1867) Ashley DWIGGINS (1805-1889) m. Mary HOLMAN (1802- ) Daniel Holman DWIGGINS (1835-1916) m. Louisa E. VOSS (1837-1931) John Henry DWIGGINS (1858-1943) m. Mattie SMOOT (1861-1910) Rufus DWIGGINS (1900-1991) m. Pearl HENDREN (1910-1994) John Charles DWIGGINS Sr. (1935-1994) m. Jerleen BASINGER (1937- ) John Charles DWIGGINS Jr. (me) (1955- ) "There were apparently two Dwiggins families in North Carolina in the late 1700s and early 1800s. One was John Dwiggins descendents that were in Rowan/Davie/Forsyth counties and the other was Robert Dwiggins descendents in Guilford County. Most of the Guilford set moved on to Tn , Ind, OH and Ill in the early 1800's. The only male member of the Davie set that I know of that left the state in the 1800s was John Dwiggins>Robert Dwiggins>Robert Dwiggins moved to Tennessee." Ursula (or Usley) CREWS was d/o Thomas & Mary CREWS of Stokes Co, NC. The cemetery list that Bob posted yesterday seems to be of the Robert DWIGGINS line mentioned about which is so intriguing because there are also so many CREWS buried there. I'll list her family again: children of Thomas (b. c1753) & Mary CREWS (I have no parents for him) 1. Ashley b. 1779 m. Catherine ___? 2. Mary b. 1781 m. Solomon WARREN 3. Ursula b. 1783 m. Daniel DWIGGINS 4. Saley b. 1785 m. George JORDAN - Any relation, Bob? 5. Constant b. 1787 m. Benj. WICKER 6. Patsey b. 1789 m. ____ DWIGGINS - Who was he? 7. Elizabeth b. 1 Jan 1790 m. Archelous DEAN 8. Mildred b. 1791 m. Jesse FRY 9. Thomas b. c1795 m. Sarah BAXTER 10. Masey b. c1797 m. Jesse FRY I have a feeling that those two lines were related to each other. Notice in Bobs' list that there is a Milly FRY d. 1821. That's Mildred CREWS listed above. Looks like she was only 30 when she died, then Jesse married her sister, Masey. Other family names JORDAN. Was that George JORDAN listed above? Was another name Saley, or Sarah JORDAN. Oh, he also listed a Martha DWIGGINS wife of Robert. That must be #6 above, Patsey and she married Robert DWIGGINS? NOW WE KNOW! This is fun! But I don't see any more links. Anyone else see anything? Most of those listed are later generations, but it would be wonderful to know how they tie in. .................................. I have a suggestion for all those doing postings here. As I've been going back over older postings I find that those that capitalize the last names are ever so much easier to read. I've decided to go back to doing that myself and I'd like to urge the rest of you to do the same. .................................. from Tom Miller <[email protected]> Parents of Madison BURDETTE who m. Indiana Limmer CREWS (15009) are: Isham BURDETTE and Nancy SHUMATE .................................. More later, Pat

Gray, thanks for the reply re George W. Crews. I felt that it should be shared with everyone on the mailing list because others are compiling databases, too, and they will need the info. I think we can pencil your George W. Crews in as the same George W. Crews we already had in the database. (For Joanne B. that's number 18335. The place & time seem to be just right.) Gray, do you need the ancestors of George W.? He comes from the same line that Charles D. posted yesterday. George W., Joseph, Jonathan, William, David, William W., and John. (Sarah Gatley). If you want more details, let me know. I'll try to con someone into posting the rest of it. <G> Did George W. and Elizabeth Smith have any more children? Here is Grays' reply............ In a message dated 97-12-16 08:13:37 EST, you write: << Sally Evelyn Matthews m. Crosby Everette Crews, s/o George W. Crews & Elizabeth Smith. Do you know who George W. Crews's parents were? I have George W. b. 1873 d. 1929 s/o Joseph Crews b. 1843 Stokes Co, NC, d .. 1918 Stokes Co; m. 1868 Forsyth Co, NC to Lavina F. Wilson. I have no other data on George - wife, etc. Could this be the same George W. Crews as yours? >> As far as I know, yes. Descendants of George W. Crews 1 George W. Crews b: 13 June 1873 Forsyth County, NC d: 24 September 1929 in Forsyth County, NC . +Elizabeth Smith b: 10 April 1871 Forsyth County, NC d: 24 January 1955 in Forsyth County, NC m: Abt. 1900 2 Crosby Everette Crews b: 9 September 1903 Forsyth County, NC d: 24 August 1986 ... +Sally Evelyn Matthews b: 11 April 1909 North Carolina m: 25 April 1929 in Forsyth County, NC ........3 Wade Alden Crews b: 24 January 1931 Forsyth County, NC ..........+Mary Lou Poplin b: 18 October 1933 m: 24 March 1951 in Salisbury, Rowan County, NC ....... 3 Jeanette Crews b: 11 November 1932 Forsyth County, NC ........3 Brenda Gay Crews b: 26 April 1940 Forsyth County, NC ......... +Jesse E. Smith b: Abt. 1938 m: 23 November 1969 Gray ......................................... Robert J. sent this expansion on Reuben Crews..... Reuben Crews first appeared in the Stokes list under Capt. Smith district (the tax keeper) 1802 with 98 acres. This is different district than other Crews men. In 1803, he appears in same tax list as the others. I found his name scattered thru the list up to 1843, where I stopped. Accordingly, Reuben Crews was probably born before 1803-21= 1782. He was not mentioned in Thomas Crews' will of 1830, so had to be (?) member of other Crews - possibly James or David. The two Ashley Crewses were members of Thomas' family. The 1820 census of Stokes lists Reuben on same page as�David Crews, Thomas Crews, James Crews, Hiram or Harmon Crews, and William Crews. Reuben was age 45 and up (b. bef. 1775 ). In 1830, Reuben was listed as age 50-60 (b. 1870-80) on same page as John Crews (age 60-70). Thus, Reuben was probably born between 1770-75. Bob Thanks for the data, Bob. I'll be studying it, that's for sure. Pat

Pat, Thanks for adding Carol. I told her you were doing so but my message bounced. Ummmm About Littleberry Crews...Will send soon. Am getting behind. So much coming in from the list I want to check out plus all my other lines to handle & Xmas. to finish. But isn't this great!! Hazel

RHollis123 wrote: > > In a message dated 97-12-18 02:27:56 EST, you write: > > << The reason I > can't print out Desc. Charts is because my nice new color printer turned > out to be for Windows Only and won't print from DOS! Grrrr >> > > Hi Pat, > > I run PAF in Windows. I am now using PAF 3.0 and it runs fine in > Windows 95. I ran PAF 2.+ in Windows 3.1 with no problems. I was > hoping the new version would be for windows but it isn't. > > In fact, I run most of my DOS programs in Windows. > > Rosemary Pat, here is a tutorial on how to accomplish the above. David 1 of 5 RUNNING PAF (or any other Program) FROM WINDOWS Many times I have wanted to look at PAF screens while using my word processor. This may be done within the Windows environment by following the steps outlined in the following pages. PAF must be running under Windows. If you are not running PAF from Windows, see the following section about setting up PAF so that it may be executed from Windows. SETTING UP AN ICON TO RUN PAF FROM WINDOWS There are a number of ways to set up an Icon to run PAF from Windows. Most of these will refer to PIFs (Program Information File). Here our interest is to get PAF up and running from Windows and we will do it in the simplest way possible. The results of these steps are easy to change later as you gain experience with Windows. These steps will be given here in a Step #1, Step #2, etc format for those who may not be fully conversant with the Windows program. It should be noted here that these steps are based on Microsoft's Windows 3.1 and may need adjusting if you are running Windows 3.0. Step #1: From Program Manager double click on the Program Group that you want your PAF Icon to reside in (or single click and then click Restore). The most logical place would be the "Applications" Program Group. Step #2: From Program Manager click on "File". Program Manager will be in the background with the Application Program Group Icons in the foreground so be careful to click on the "File" from Program Manager. Step #3: From the menu click on "New". Step #4: Window "New Program Object" will be displayed. The bullet (dot in circle) should be before "Program Item", If it is not, click on "Program Item" and the bullet will appear. Step #5: Click on "OK". Window "Program Item Properties" will appear. Step #6: The prompt line should be at the beginning of "Description". If not use the mouse to position the prompt at the beginning of "Description". Type the the name you want to show under the Icon - probably "PAF". If you are going to be using multiple data bases then an appropriate entry might be "PAF RESEARCH". Step #7: Use the mouse or Tab key to move the prompt to the beginning of "Command Line". The command to execute PAF. This will be C:\PAF\FR DATA if you have used the default locations when installing PAF. Note that this command will execute the Family Records program of PAF (the PAF Menu Screen will be skipped). If you have used another name for your data sub-directory substitute this name for "DATA". For example if you use a "RESEARCH" data base the line would be C:\PAF\FR RESEARCH.  2 of 5 SETTING UP AN ICON TO RUN PAF FROM WINDOWS (Cont) Step #8: Use the mouse or Tab key to move the prompt to the beginning of "Working Directory". This should be C:\PAF (assuming, again, that you are using PAF installation defaults). Step #9: Leave "Shortcut Key" blank. Click the mouse on OK. This will return you to the Program Group that you have installed the PAF Icon. Step #10: Double click on the new PAF Icon to test it. PAF should now be running. The default Icon (MS DOS) is deliberately used to adhere to the KISS principal. If you would like to change the Icon to one more suitable follow the steps in the section CHANGING YOUR PAF ICON.  3 of 5 RUNNING OTHER PROGRAMS WITH PAF IN THE WINDOWS ENVIRONMENT These steps will be given here in a Step #1, Step #2, etc format for those who may not be fully conversant with the Windows program. It should be noted here that these steps are based on Microsoft's Windows 3.1 and may need adjusting if you are running Windows 3.0. Step # 1: From Program Manager double click on the Program Group where you have the PAF Icon. In my Windows setup I carry PAF in the Program Group called "Applications". Double clicking on the Program Group Icon will cause all the Icons within the group to be displayed. Step # 2:Double click on the PAF Icon. If you have multiple PAF Icons (handling multiple data bases or options) select the one you wish to work with first. This will start PAF. PAF is now running as a single program under Windows: you can do anything in this PAF running under Windows that you can do while running under DOS. At this point I would suggest that you enter Pedigree Search and move to some other person than the one you have as RIN 1 so that you will know which program (Window) you are working with. This is particularly important if you are going to be executing two copies of the same program setup i.e. two versions of PAF using the same PAF data base (Icon). Step # 3: Hold down the Alternate key and press the space bar (Alt+Space). This will cause PAF to become a window (occupy only a portion of the screen) and also display a "box" containing, among other things, the line "Switch to...". Step #4: Click on the "Switch to .." line and select Program Manager from the Task List and click the "Switch to box". Step #5: Double click on the appropriate Icon for whatever other program you want to run concurrently with the first PAF program. This can be one for another PAF data base, Word Processing program, etc. It can be even be for the same PAF data base you used before (in which case you will be running two copies of the same data base). Step #6: Repeat Step #3 i.e. press Alt+Space and then click on "Switch to...". Step #7: From the "Task List" click on the first program you started and then click on the "Switch To" button. Step: #8: It may be necessary to arrange the Window for optimum viewing by clicking the mouse on the top bar of the window (where the program name is) and then, while holding down on the mouse, move the window where you want it.  4 of 5 RUNNING OTHER PROGRAMS WITH PAF IN THE WINDOWS ENVIRONMENT (Cont) Step #9: Activate the desired window by clicking in a clear area (i.e. one that would not be a PAF command). The bar at the top of the window with the program name will be colored (probably blue) to indicate the active window while the other bar will be clear (white). Step #10: At this point each program is working independently. In PAF people may be added, deleted, changed, etc just as if the program was running by itself under DOS. If the windows have been reduced, there will be a scroll bar on the right side of the screen. Use this scroll bar to shift the material in the window up/down or right/left as needed. To switch to a "full" screen rather than a "Window" press Alt+Enter. Alt+Space will switch back to a Window. Step #11: Close the programs as normally: i.e. for PAF press the "Zero" key until the backup reminder screen appears and then press <ENTER>. The main key combinations to remember are: Alt+Space Switch to Window Alt+Esc Switch to another program Alt+Enter Switch to "full" screen (opposit of Alt+Space) 5 of 5 CHANGING YOUR PAF ICON The following steps will permit you to change the Icon used with PAF (or any other program for that matter). If you have multiple PAF Icons in your Applications Program Group you may want to have a different Icon for each. There is no outstanding Icon in those furnished Windows but some are better than others. Most Bulletin Boards have files that contain Icons that specially design for PAF so as you gain experiance you may wish to download some and change your Icon again at a later date. These steps will be given here in a Step #1, Step #2, etc format for those who may not be fully conversant with the Windows program. It should be noted here that these steps are based on Microsoft's Windows 3.1 and may need adjusting if you are running Windows 3.0. Step #1: From Program Manager start your Applications Group (or whatever Group you have placed PAF). Step #2: Click on you PAF program Icon (single click). The text under your PAF Icon will now be reversed (i.e. you have selected it). Step #3: From Program Manager click on "File". Step #4: From the list of options select "Properties" by clicking on it. This will display the "Program Item Properties" window for PAF. Step #5: Click on "Change Icon..." to see what is available. The "Change Icon" window will be displayed. Use the scroll bar at the bottom of the Icons displayed to see what is available. See if you can find the Mona Lisa Icon which is one you may want to consider. Step #6: Once you have found the Icon you want to use click on the Icon to highlight it and then click OK. Step #7: The Program Item Properties screen is now displayed with the new Icon. Click on OK. Step #8: You are now back to the Program Group from which you can execute PAF. Prepared by: W Douglas Little 3 La Costa Court Ormond Beach, FL 32174 (904) 676-0551

To Charles D. I just check and you ARE subscribed. Didn't you get a welcome note when you did? You should get one with all the instructions you need to be a member of the list. Thanks so much for posting the John & Sarah line. What reference is being cited for the first wife of John CREW b. c1669, namely Catherine? I just don't see how John could have had a first wife and still have married Sarah GATLEY by 1669 when he was about 20. I realize it's not impossible, but I'd really like to know more about the facts of this marriage. When was it and where, do you know? To Hazel, Carol Boykin is not yet a member of the list. I guess she would be subscribing on her own. I'll go add her name to the list. I think she'll get a welcome note. Re: Wm. Littleberry Crews - yes, I have his children but no nieces & nephews. I have the names of his 9 brothers and sister. Could you post that when you have some time? And later generations if you have them? No hurry. To David H. I am using PAF 2.0 but something is going on with my computer and I have some old files that have replaced new ones. I think that's what's preventing me from getting on the internet except thru *P. The reason I can't print out Desc. Charts is because my nice new color printer turned out to be for Windows Only and won't print from DOS! Grrrr! I have imported the db into Family Origins and it seems to print fine since it's a Windows program, but since I'm going to have Windows 95 re- installed soon in order to have the latest files, I didn't see any reason to fool with F.O. until everything is working well. There's a lot to learn about any new program and I don't need things not working, too. I tried to do a gedcom once and for some reason it didn't work. I've manged to avoid it ever since, but I know I should master the technique and will, eventually. I was moving files onto my D drive to make way for that re- installation and ended up messing up my email program. So I had to d/l again and install that one more time. I'll never learn! BTW, check every file in the PEMC program before you move it. That is, if you have Prodigy Email Connection. Some of those files really belong there! To All, We have 27 members of the list including some new people that I hope will post their lines when they get the chance. 6 members are on the digest mode and it's working very well, so far. No notes being left out . I don't think we'll have a problem, but keep an eye on it, anyway. Pat

Hello Everyone! Someone was looking for a Rufus Crews. Found this in the Tennessee Marriages on the USGENWEB. Hope it helps. CRUZE, Rufus marr. JOHNSON, Elizabeth on 23-JUN-1882 Donna

I don't recognize the parish names. Is this in America or England? David Family of Margaret Sherme Margaret Sherme was the first child of John Sherme and Thomasine Adams, and was baptised some time in August 1679, in the Parish of Kilkhampton. Unfortunately at this stage I am not certain on what date she was born/baptised. According to the I.G.I., Margaret married Symon Crews (or Cruse) in 1703 in the neighbouring Parish of Morwenstow. I have also discovered that Symon Crews was born around 1678, also in Morwenstow. Unfortunately there is no record of who his parents were. A subsequent search relvealed that they had 4 children, all shown as being born in Morwenstow. They were; John Crews - born 6th August 1708 Simon Crews - born 6th August 1713 Thomas Crews - born 25th March 1716 Nicholas Crews - born 10th April 1719 At this stage I have not been able to determine whether any of the above children married, whether they had children of their own, or what became of them. If anyone has anymore information about any of the above, or you feel you may be one of their descendants, please contact me at [email protected] Last Updated 6th November 1996 http://www.dcscomp.com.au/jewell/family-history/ancestor/864.htm