HI! Does anyone know anything about this family? I am trying to locate John Nelson Cruise's ancestory. Thought this might be a thread to follow. Edward CRUSE m. Sally NELSON in Tennesse on 3-17-1813. Thanks, Donna

I finally almost finished my home page: <A HREF="http://members.aol.com/DCPHX16107/CARPENTER.html">THE DONNA CARPENTER PAGE</A>

I just got on this CREWS mailing list. Should it be making sense? I see lots of answers posted, but very few questions. Usually the answers are directed toward one particular individual. A.D. Crews

I know, not very original, but it's got "CREWS" in it. All day Sunday I tried to get on & d/l but Prodigy wouldn't answer the phone. That's an AWFUL feeling! So I opened up a Puzz 3D puzzle that I wanted to have going by Christmas so the kids could try it out, too. I was so curious to see how they worked. I like it! Now I'm having a hard time staying away from it! First of all, Hazel & Chuck, thanks for all the WICKER, TALLEY, CREWS data. I guess I don't have the latest decisions on this line, but that's what this list is all about. TO GET IT RIGHT! David H. We had John CREW and Marygery ELLYSON in the db, but everyone else you posted is new. Thanks so much! Donna, What a nice offer for someone, a copy of that picture! To All, I have searched the db for any RALPH/RELPH/RAFE/REPH people, but came up dry. Does that name ring a bell with anyone? David H. Re: CREWS-WICKER marriages I had all the ones you mentioned except 3 couples. Edward CREWS & Jane WHICKER and John CREW & Elizabeth MASSEY. Maybe Hazel can tie Edward in for me? We do have a John MASSEY & Elizabeth CREW but her name is Sarah Elizabeth C. CREWS and she was b. 1856 Patrick Co, Va. Much too late to be m. in 1837. I don't suppose that CD gives any indication as to parents, etc.? The info on the Battle of CREWS farm is so fascinating! That's much more than I knew! A couple of years ago I got a day by day description of the campaign of Gen. Sterling PRICE to take St. Louis, MO in 1865. Because of these descriptions I was able to pinpoint the exact date my GGGF was captured by Gen. PRICE's army. I already knew where and how and what happened later because of a family booklet written by an uncle, but we didn't know even what year it occurred. Now we know, Sep. 30, 1865. Anybody out there know who owned this CREWS farm? I haven't checked out your latest websites, yet, but I will. My time is getting tighter the closer it gets to Christmas. To ALL, The searchable archives are temporarily out of disk space. I don't know if this effects our list, but it may. They'll have more space by next month for sure. The URL for searching most lists is http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi- bil/listsearch.pl A few lists (ROOTS-L and some of the gatewayed lists) are accessed instead through http://searches.rootsweb.com Don't ask what gatewayed lists are. Instead, tell me. No, don't bother. We are ROOTS-L so maybe that mean us. They're hoping to get that split tidied up soon. Are you interested in threaded archives? Again, no clue! http://lists.rootsweb.com/~archiver Hazel, I had Caleb CREWS, s/o Joseph CREWS & Massey JOHNSON. Do you have any children for his son, Meredith? I guess I won't get to post any new data today. Time is getting tighter & tighter and I want to be sure to tell you all how much I appreciate all the help! Jimmie Cassidy - YES, we have Melchizedek and his ancestors & desc's! But we would love to compare notes & make sure you and we both have the same data. I have names & addresses for a couple of other desc's that aren't online that you can also talk to and I'm sure we have desc's of the same line, but not necessarily Melchizedek himself. (I love that name! There are no others like him!) Also John "Turkey" CREWS. Who gave him that nickname? You must know Jim Crews of MO? He uses the same nickname. MERRY CHRISTMAS TO YOU ALL! Let's pray for a happy, healthy and successful 1998! Find those clues! Pat

In a message dated 97-12-23 12:45:03 EST, [email protected] writes: << Pat, I know where Bill is coming from if he watches subject only on his messages. I too get over 100 messages per day. I watch for the [email protected] as well as for who sends the message. >> Pat Go to your list owner's utility page and scroll down to the bottom to "CUSTOMIZE SETTINGS". From there you can make CREWS-L appear in subject line each time. Also you can make a click to "REPLY" reply to the list instead of the sender. Of course it's your list and you can do it however you wish. Just telling you in case you didn't know. Merry Christmas Chuck

Pat, Here are Wm. Littleberry Crews' siblings;nieces & nephews as I show them: Sibling Molly CREWS md. John HESTER Issue: Nancy Stephen Joseph Elizabeth James Abigail Jemima Mary "Polly" S. John Abigail CREWS md. William DANIEL Issue: Willis Elizabeth CREWS md. Lemuel CURRIN Issue: Lemuel Currin, Jr. Elizah T. James A. David Mary Jane Elizabeth Lucy Ann Gideon CREWS, Jr. (All issue were from wife #2: Temperance LeMay) Issue: Benjamin Franklin CREWS, Jr. Martha P. Harriett Nancy Henry Lucy Ann (Coner) CREWS Joseph "Jenks" CREWS md. Elizabeth Currin (no issue shown) James A. CREWS & Sarah "Sally" Earl Issue: Allen Spencer (Infant) James A. CREWS, Jr. Rebecca A. Mary E. Martha M. Edward N. Elijah Thomas Susan C. Isabella Jane Melissa F. Elizabeth ********************** Notation: It is interesting to note that Edward had no biological issue but adopted the son, Norfleet of his brother Elijah. Edward & Elijah's wives were sisters. Edward was otherwise childless. He left his entire estate (after his wife) to his son Norfleet. ********************** Jemima CREWS md. Wiatt\ Wyatt Currin Issue: James Notation: Wyatt Currin md. 2nd Elizabeth HESTER on 9 march 1824. Their issue: Ancil Betsy Wyatt Thomas Susan ************************************ Pat, I had no list "as such" but took the above from records of the Gideon CREWS & Jemima WHICKER family, omitting of course, Wm. Littleberry CREWS himself. Hope this is what you wanted and that I haven't left out anyone. <G> MERRY CHRISTMAS & HAPPY NEW YEAR! Will be gone for a few days. Hope the weather holds for travel! Hazel

Pat, I know where Bill is coming from if he watches subject only on his messages. I too get over 100 messages per day. I watch for the [email protected] as well as for who sends the message. Am getting to know most of your names. That helps. Anyway.... RE Pat's query as how Talley WICKER & Betty Ann LINVILLE fit in....Talley WICKER born 20 Sept. 1783 (a yr. off from what you show) was the son of Thomas WHICKER and Sally TALLEY/TALLY. His wife Betty Ann LINVILLE was the dau. of David LINVILLE and Dorothy FAIR. Think I have discussed your other CREWS/WHICKER problems, haven't I? If not, ask again. Hazel

Pat, I took a look at "The Official Atlas of the Civil War" and found a "Battle of Malvern Hill, VA" which occured July 1, 1862. There is a farm marked Crew almost exactly where the battery is positioned. The farm was located at present day Glendale National Cemetery in Henrico Co, VA, about 20 miles SE of Richmond. On the 1863 map, a road named "Quaker or Willis Church Road"(VA Hwy 156) leads from the farm to a church of that name about 1 or 2 miles away. The church records may be a source of more info on this family. Malvern Hill Henrico County, Va. Malvern Hill was the last of the Seven Days’ Battles. It was fought on July 1, 1862. USA Gen. George Brinton McClellan’s men stood in formation to fire on the attacking Confederates. After this battle, McClellan withdrew to his base at Harrison’s Landing, down the James River. The park has interpretive facilities featuring exhibits and an audio station. There are no restrooms at this site, and the difficult terrain makes it unaccessible to the handicapped. http://www.insiders.com/civil/tour18.htm Henrico Glendale National Cemetery Jct of VA 156 and VA 600 The Battle of Malvern Hill was the last in the series of battles known collectively as "The Seven Days," a part of the Peninsula Campaign of 1862, which pitted George McClellan's Army of the Potomac against the Army of Northern Virginia and Robert E. Lee, its newly appointed commander. The aim of this campaign, the most ambitious ever mounted during the War Between the States, was nothing less than the capture of the Confederate capital city of Richmond. Fought on July 1 near the banks of the James River, within site of the spires of Richmond, this battle saw Confederate infantrymen attempt to take Union artillery emplacements, which held an almost unassailable position atop Malvern Hill. Although Federal troops were successful in beating back the Confederate charge, McClellan ordered a "change of base" (better known as a "retreat") immediately following the battle, and Richmond remained in Confederate hands until 1865. A poem: http://www.erols.com/kfraser/malvern.html A painting: http://www.greenpointart.com/civil/ds/dsmh.htm Memoirs of Lt. GEN. Hood CSA: http://www.wtj.com/arcdocs2/hood2.htm Description: Sixth and last of the Seven Days' Battles. On July 1, 1862, Gen. Robert E. Lee launched a series of disjointed assaults on the nearly impregnable Union position on Malvern Hill. The Confederates suffered more than 5,300 casualties without gaining an inch of ground. Estimated casualties were 8,500 total. Despite his victory, McClellan withdrew to entrench at Harrison's Landing on James River, where his army was protected by gunboats. This ended the Peninsula Campaign. When McClellan's army ceased to threaten Richmond, Lee sent Jackson to operate against Maj. Gen. John Pope's army along the Rapidan River, thus initiating the Northern Virginia Campaign. September 6-7 - Artillery Demonstrations at Malvern Hill, a living history encampment with artillery demonstrations and walking tours; Sat 10am-5pm Sun 10am-4pm; Malvern Hill Unit of Richmond National Battlefield Park; 226-1981 There was a photo on the web of the fighting in a wheat field at Malvern Hill but the link is obsolete. David

Carole, I can't remember if I sent you this link or not, so just in case. It has a line of the Elder family which contains a Polly Elder. It's a long page so use your find button for "Polly". David http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/2953/dat0.htm#27 Elder Home Page: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/2953/elder.htm

Pat, I forgot to mention that there was a 3rd son of Joseph CREWS & Massey JOHNS(T)ON named Caleb who had a dau. named Massey. She is the one who md. John MAYFIELD. Hazel

David, I am o.k. on all the CREWS-WICKER marriages you posted with exception of James Yancy WHICKER and Hannah Lowry CREWS. That one should read 2 Nov. 1848. They were my great grandparents & I have a copy of their marriage certificate. Plainly says 2 Nov. in lieu of 31 Oct. I do not know anything about the Northampton Co., NC two marriages. Any info. you might want on any of the other people I can probably help with. I think we have discussed most of them before....possibly a couple or so we've not touched on. Hazel

These marriage dates come from a library cd-rom database. David Granville Co, NC CREWS, Thomas WICKER, Mary 23 May 1789 WICKER, Thomas CREWS, Massey 11 Oct 1786 MAYFIELD, John CREWS, Massey 17 Dec 1798 Stokes Co, NC CREWS, Edward WHICKER, Jane 08 Nov 1842 WHICKER, Benjamin CREWS, Conna 26 Jan 1808 WHICKER, James Y CREWS, Hannah L 31 Oct 1848 FRY, Jesse CREWS, Massey 02 Feb 1822 Northampton Co, NC MASSEY, John CREW, Elizabeth 19 Dec 1837 CREW, John MASSEY, Elizabeth 21 Mar 1838

http://www.genealogy.org/~ajmorris/misc/va1785hf.htm

Hello to all of my Crews Friends and Relatives! I just wanted to wish you a great Christmas holiday and to thank you for the wonderful job that you are doing with the Crews family genealogy. May God Bless You Always, Ann Crews Hance [email protected]

Pat, After my other posts this a.m., will try again for you. Files should reflect: Thomas CREWS (b. 1748/53) md. Mary_____(Bob says last name was TALLEY & I do not know otherwise.) This Thomas CREWS was the s/o Joseph CREWS & Massey JOHNS(T)ON. They had 10 issue. Thomas CREWS (b.1766) s/o James & Amelia CREWS md. Mary WHICKER (b.1765), d/o Benjamin WHICKER & Elizabeth. James CREWS (b. 1745), s/o Joseph CREWS & Massie JOHNS(T)ON md. Amelia. Massie\Massey CREWS, (b.ca 1768) d/o James & Amelia CREWS md. Thomas WHICKER, s/o Benjamin WHICKER & Elizabeth. Don't yo see Pat, Joseph CREWS & Massey JOHNS(T)ON had among other issue, 2 sons; James & Thomas. Each of these sons had a dau. they named Massey. Massey JOHNS(T)ON must have been quite a gal for her sons to do that but from the research I did some years ago along with others, I truly believe that is what happened. That is why these families are so confusing. Hazel

Bill, Well taken. I will try & do that. Hazel On Sat, 20 Dec 1997, Bill Crews wrote: > This "subject" is always brought up on list and here I go bringing it up. > It would be nice if the Subject line included the word Crews in it. Why? > Well if you are on several mail list you might be getting several hundred > messages per day. To weed out the messages that don't interest you, you > would be checking subject or names of senders. I am afraid that I might > miss the message that would be the answer to a lot of my family questions > as I don't know everyone's name who might post and some of the subjects > would never indicate it had anything to do with the Crews family. Just a > thought and not meant to cause any hardships or a lot of discussions. Look > forward to reading the notes for this area of the lists and to participate > when there is something that I have that may help you. > > Sincerely, > > Bill Crews > >

Pat, Bob and Chuck, This is in followup to my last message re. the TALLEY/WHICKER connection. It is just possible that Nicholas TALLEY & Mary were the parents of these (is it 3?) women. Anyway...I just now find I have a Martha TALLEY (showing parents Nicholas TALLEY & Mary) who married William WHICKER. William was born 1763 and was the son of Benjamin Whicker & Elizabeth (as was Thomas, b. 1760 who md. Sally TALLEY & then Massey CREWS). I show a Jane TALLEY who I understood from Bob was one of the wives of Thomas JORDAN. How are we doing now? Hazel P.S. Pat, you can rely on what I am giving you now more than what I may have given years ago. I can't recall if I ever got back to you after having straightened out all these Thomas CREWS and WHICKER families. I thought I had, but then maybe not. If not, I am sorry.

Pat, Before reading your post this a.m. I sent a list message directed to Bob and Chuck on your very questions re. TALLEY and WHICKER. Please read. It may help answer your questions. If not, ask me again. O.K.? Hazel

Bob & Chuck, What a tangled web. Yes, I have a Talley connection. Let's go over this & see if it can be straightened out. I will give you what I have & then get back to me. O.K.? Mary "Polly" TALLEY married Thomas CREWS ca 1774/78 Granville Co., NC. Thomas born ca 1748/53. I show no parents for this Mary "Polly" TALLEY and only the other day got her last name as TALLEY from you Bob. I think we all pretty well agree on the children of this couple. Among them was Sally CREWS who md. George JORDAN. A son of George JORDAN named Thomas md. a Sarah TALLEY. (I got that couple from you also Bob so am showing no parents for this Sarah TALLEY.) I have a Sally TALLEY who married Thomas WHICKER 27 March 1780. I show her parents as Nicholas TALLEY and Mary___. This Thomas WHICKER born 1760 was the son of Benjamin WHICKER & Elizabeth. This Thomas WHICKER had a second wife named Massey CREWS. He married her 11 Oct. 1786. This Massey was born 1768/70 and was the dau. of James and Amelia CREWS. This Thomas WHICKER had issue from both wives. Bob, do you have documentation as to the last name of Mary "Polly" TALLEY who md. Thomas CREWS born 1748/53? It is difficult to believe Nicholas TALLEY & Mary were the parents of both these TALLEY women although it is quite possible. Give me the benefit of your thinking. Hazel

Bill, Hint taken! Do you really get hundreds of email a day? I would go bonkers! ...................................... You guys are so sweet trying to get my printer going. I'll play around with what you sent & see if it helps. Thanks so much! ..................................... Hazel, Yes, this is wonderful! We're getting links & corrections, & it's so exciting! Here's a question that maybe you can answer. In the db I have Thomas CREWS (m. Mary WICKER) as s/o Joseph CREWS & Massie JOHNSON . And we show Thomas & Mary with a son named Thomas who m. Mary ZIMMERMAN. Now from what you and others are saying it looks like Thomas CREWS (m. Mary TALLEY) is s/o Joseph CREWS & Massie JOHNSON. So where does that leave Thomas CREWS & Mary WICKER? Do you know his parents? Or is this one man with two wives? They were each b. about the same year, 1753. One of Stokes Co, NC (Mary TALLEY) and one of Granville Co, NC (Mary WICKER). ..................................... Do any of you have more info on the TALLEY family? We have Henry TALLEY m. Edith HUBBARD (she b. 1777); Bruce TALLEY m. Martha CREWS (she b. 1881). And here's a crazy one: Talley WICKER b. 1784 m. Betty Ann LINVILLE. Do you know how they fit in? ..................................... New info: posted by Linda Hutchins Collier <[email protected]> on 9 Feb 1996 Susannah LAX b. c1761 (d/o Wm. S. LAX III and Susannah CHANDLER) who m. (2) Peter CREWS (Richard, Thomas, Thomas) m. (1) Abraham CHILDRESS b. c1756 d. bef 13 Aug 1791 Halifax Co, Va; m . 23 May 1781 Halifax Co. Children: 1. Elizabeth b. c1782 Va; d. bef 1850; m. 3 Sep 1798 Halifax Co John CARMICHAEL 2. Nancy b. c1783 VA; m. 28 May 1798 Halifax Co to David HICKS 3. Susanna b. c1785; m. 26 Nov 1798 Halifax Co to Moses HICKS 4. Robert b. c1787 5. Timothy W. b. 1790 Va; d. Nov 1855 Houston, Halifax Co; m. 4 Mar 1812 Halifax Co to his 1st cousin Obedience LAX d/o Joel & Mary LAX (line of Linda Collier) ..................................... parts of this are also new: posted by Julie Sandidge <[email protected] .edu> but for someone else George W. STANLEY, Sr. b. bef 1765; d. 1843 Bedford Co, VA married: 1. Mary CREWS 1791 in Bedford Co, died 1810 2. Sarah Ann "Sally" CLARK 1811 Bedford Co, VA We have a question as to whether 1791 is her birthdate or their marriage date. George was abt 26 in 1791 and certainly old enough to marry, but how old was Mary? Since she died in 1810 and it gives the date 1811 after Sarahs' name, I'll bet that Sarah & George were married one year after Mary died. And since both dates are expressed the same way, I'll bet that 1791 is the marriage date for Mary & George. Does anyone else know for sure? ..................................... One more: posted Dec 1994 by Ralph A. Rodriguez <[email protected] edu> Jeremiah JOHNS b. c1760? NC; m. c1786 SC Levicy ___ Children: 1. George b. 1787 Beaufort Dist, Charleston SC; d. 1867; m. 1790 SC to Anna ____ 2. William b. 1801 SC; m Elizabeth (Hix)? b. 1801 SC (his line) 3. Lucinda b. 1802 SC n/m 4. Archibald b. 1810 Wayne Co, GA; m. Mary ____ 5. Sarah b. 1809 SC; m. Joseph CREWS 6. Levi b. c1779-83; m. Keziah ____ 7. Jeremiah (#10219) b. 1798 SC; d. 1878; m. Mary Ann McCLELLAN Ralph was looking for evidence that Jesse A. JOHNS b. 1823 GA who m. Isabel RAULERSON, d/o William RAULERSON & Elizabeth MOORE was s/o Wm. JOHNS b. 1801 SC & Elizabeth. More later.....Pat