Dan, Thanks so much for the court record. So they just wanted to rob him. What a shame. You are guessing that this James CREWS was s/o Joseph CREWS and Massie JOHNSTON. That James moved to Granville Co, NC with brothers Gideon, Caleb and poss. Thomas. He died in 1831. I looked thru about 80 James's trying to find a likely candidate and found 3. James CREWS m. Judith HARRIS (s/o Andrews CREW & Hannah ELLYSON) He was b. 1725 Chas. City Co., d. bef. 10 Mar 1799. He would have been around 60/64 unless it was him who was killed, then he was 56. James CREWS, s/o above James. b. 1774 d. 10 Mar 1793 Now I see the coincidence of the date of death (approx) being 10 Mar in each case. I'm wondering if the year should be the same, whether 1793 or 1799. Then if something was written up on the son when he died, and it mentioned that his father was already dead, that would be why it gives "bef 10 Mar..." for the fathers' death. Is that clear? Anyway, that would make the father an even better candidate because it MIGHT bring his death down to before 1793. The last candidate I see is James CREWS s/o John CREW Jr. & Agatha ELLYSON. We have very little info on him. He was named in his brothers' will (Ellyson CREWS) who died in 1772. I still like the first one as the most likely, so I'm asking if anyone else might see a better one? Or know why this one's not good. Where did James (m. Judith HARRIS) die? When? How/ Two of the above are gsons of John CREW & Sarah Gatley and the other is a ggson. Interesting. Keeps it in the family. Pat

Pat, A note to clarify - I did not mean to imply that the James who was murdered was the son of Joseph and Massie (I, too, had this James' date of death as 1831; in fact, he was one of Hazel's direct ancestors). Instead, my guess was that this James was the son of Joseph and Massie's oldest son, John (b. 1728), who to my knowledge, stayed in the Charles City County area when his younger brothers (Thomas, Gideon, James, and Caleb) moved to NC. According to some notes that I have, a John Crews (probably s/o Joseph and Massie) had a son named James who was born in 1750 (which would have made him 42 at the time of the murder). I have also speculated that this John (s/o Joseph and Massie) was married to Sarah Crews (d/o Andrew Crews and Hannah Ellyson). If anyone has any information on this John line (or this James, b. 1750), please let me know (I'm also looking for information on John's younger brother David). Finally, in regards to the motive for the killing, the documents imply that two of the slaves involved in the murder were run-aways, and I would guess that James (being an overseer) probably walked up on them and discovered this. Dan

In the late 1700's and early 1800's, most of the Crews family of SC was living in Colleton Co. and Beaufort Co. There were at least six heads of households living on the Colleton side of the Salkehatchie River in 1810 and by 1820 three of them, Macaijah, Alexander, and Roger had moved to Camden Co., GA. Edward, Samuel, and Jonathan remained in Colleton at least for a while. Benjamin and John are shown living in Beaufort in 1820. SC hwy 63 was once known as Crews Ford Road indicating that the family ran a ford across the Salkehatchie River Where hwy 63 crosses. The Crews farms in Colleton were located about a mile south of present day Islandton, SC where the Salkehatchie and the Little Salkehatchie Rivers converge to form the Combahee River. I have a copy of a tax return for the year 1824 that I got from Huxford's records in Homerville, GA. It's a return for the estate of John (C. or G.) Crews Sr. for taxable property in the Parish of St. Bartholomew and the District of Colleton, SC. The tax was one dollar on 1334 acres of land. At the bottom of the page, it was paid on the 30 April 1825 to the tax collector for Prince William Parish(which is in Beaufort Co)and the person who paid it is John Crews Jr. There is a Jonathan in Colleton and a John in Beaufort in the 1820 census. From this tax return we know they are father and son and that John Crews Sr. died prior to 30 Apr 1825. Huxford has stated that Alexander Crews was born about 1755 in Charleston District, SC, in the portion now Colleton Co, and was a son of John Crews. I have always doubted that Alexander was born this early for 3 reasons. First, he didn't have his first child until 1795. Second, his second wife, Lucy Dubois b.1785, would be 30 years his junior. Third, Huxford says he served in the Indian Wars in 1838, an impressive feat for an 83 yr. old man. It's more likely that Alex. was born in the 1770's which I have seen in some gedcoms. If John Sr lived an average life of 70 yrs. and died in 1824/5 then he could have been the father of Alexander in the 1770's and some of the other younger Crews men who appear in the early census records of Colleton and Beaufort Counties in SC. David

Can I ask you all that when you are answering one of my posts, especially if it's a long one, would you delete the original message? I feel like I'm taking up too much room when my notes go on here more than once. Just the long ones. You can do what you want on the short ones. Donna, Did you want the line of Sarah Jane CREWS up or down? Down, below her I only have Henrietta CARPENTER and no other children. Up, above her I have Calvin CREWS & Sarah STOKES, d/o Henry STOKES & Mary BROWN (of course); Roger CREWS Sr & Eliz. MITCHELL; John CREWS & Nancy COLLINS. I posted 3 generations of this CREWS/COLLINS line in Vol. 97, Issue 15. I wish I had more to give you on Henrietta CARPENTER, but I don't. Can anyone else help here? Pat

Here are the wills of the Pleasants family once again. John Crew is mentioned twice as a relative.

> Subject: Re: [CREWS-L] re: Sarah PLEASANTS > > Pat, > Sorry I can't be of more help with Sarah PLEASANTS & MONROE. Supposedly they > both married a John CREW as of course did our Sarah GATLEY. I can't recall off > hand how I came up with all this. I remember I was reading a lot of the work of > Clara Crew JONES (one of the earliest Crews researchers) but whether this > relates to that or not, I can't say. Might possibly find it with a lot of > digging but don't think it would yield anything of much help. I recall that I > couldn't find documentation of worth. Most of it was speculation on the part of > other researchers findings as well as my own. Nothing solid. Seems Clara Jones > believed John md. a Catherine (Parker?) & 2nd Sara_____? I did not believe that > correct. Then there was a possibility of a marriage of John Crew to a woman > named Sara SANDERS. (Don't ask me where that came from!) Altogether I am hoping > someone can come up with something concrete. Until then, I am staying with John > having md. Sarah GATLEY. > Hazel > Hazel, The John CREW(S) we're talking about is NOT the one who m. Sarah GATLEY (I think). We're talking about the one who is brother of Richard CREWS of Halifax Co, VA. It's the only way I know to define that one from the others. I don't blame you for thinking that, though. There are so many Johns and Sarahs in those years that I can hardly believe we have them as well-defined as we do! To tell the truth, I'll bet there were MORE Johns than we think because there are certainly a slew of women who m. a John CREW. Can they ALL have been married more than once ? Anyway, you hold onto the John CREW/Sarah GATLEY combination because I certainly am. Until we can get some clear ideas about the others, who knows? Pat

Hi All! I am interested in Calvin's dau. Sarah Jane CREWS b.1862 m. Dave CARPENTER. Where can I get the rest that line? Donna Carpenter

Pat, Sorry I can't be of more help with Sarah PLEASANTS & MONROE. Supposedly they both married a John CREW as of course did our Sarah GATLEY. I can't recall off hand how I came up with all this. I remember I was reading a lot of the work of Clara Crew JONES (one of the earliest Crews researchers) but whether this relates to that or not, I can't say. Might possibly find it with a lot of digging but don't think it would yield anything of much help. I recall that I couldn't find documentation of worth. Most of it was speculation on the part of other researchers findings as well as my own. Nothing solid. Seems Clara Jones believed John md. a Catherine (Parker?) & 2nd Sara_____? I did not believe that correct. Then there was a possibility of a marriage of John Crew to a woman named Sara SANDERS. (Don't ask me where that came from!) Altogether I am hoping someone can come up with something concrete. Until then, I am staying with John having md. Sarah GATLEY. Hazel On Wed, 7 Jan 1998, MRS PATRICIA A RAY wrote: > Connie, > Thanks to the usual efficiency of Joanne I'm getting a handle on where > we got the name Sarah PLEASANTS for the wife of John S. CREWS. This > information came from Jim Crews of Stockton CA and I hope to get in > touch with him to find out more. And, coincidentely at about the same > time Hazel gave the same name to Brenda. I'm hoping you have more info > on that, Hazel? > About that time we were still trying to work out the exact lines and > we had the data a little mixed together, but still, her name must have > come from somewhere. > Do they show up on any marriage list? They may not because of the > earliness of the marriage. I don't believe I've seen it. But we do > have an exact date for the marriage of John CREWS & Sarah Gatley, > although I think it's about a year later than it should be. But I > wonder where that date came from, and how? Was it publ? > > Hazel, > Another question. What about Sarah MONROE? Did she marry a CREWS? > Maybe John? > > Joanne, > I'm so happy to see you posting!!!! I've missed you! > Question: When we request more than one file from the archive, do we > send a separate request for each file? I lost the first 5 digests when > I lost the email program. (see below) > Thanks for J. Ernst's address. I'll try it and David's, too. Maybe > one of them will work! > Re: your message #6, comment #3 re Reuben CREWS and "Eliza Yarbrough" > she is listed in the db #11374 as Eliza Y. PHILLIPS d/o Charles PHILLIPS > and Anna NIX. > Now I'm unable to look at my original note because about Dec 16th my > email program did something strange and I had to d/l and install it > again. I think the notes are still in the program somewhere but I > haven't the foggiest notion as to how to get them. But just go with the > assumption that Eliza's middle name is YARBROUGH. I don't think we > really know if she was married before. I don't think so, but that's > just a guess. > > Dan, > I got to read the CARTER info on cascade.net and got a few more > details like the first husband of Susannah CARTER d/o Giles. The desc > chart I had gave only her 2nd husband. I really appreciate the tip. > Thanks so much. > Ok, I'll bite! Which Charles CARTER owned the "Shirley Plantation". > I have Charles Vaulx CARTER (1840-1861). I'll bet he's not the one? > How about Charles CARTER who m. ____BARKSDALE, s/o Theodrick CARTER > (Theodrick, Theodrick, Gile)? He's the one I'm betting on. Right? Do > you have his wife's first name? > I won't ask you to send a copy of that court record, but could you > give the highlights? > > Virginia, > Willis Norman CREWS had a son b. 1919 so he must have died after that. > Have you tried getting his death cert? It doesn't sound like you > know where he died though. You may have to start with Normans' death > cert and look for the b/place of Willis on that, and the name of > Normans' mother. Or look for Normans' b/cert. You're big stumbling > block on all that is knowing the places/counties. > I think Davids' suggestion to look at the census records is your best > bet. You can look in the index book for each state to find Willis > Norman CREWS and then look at his records. > We have a Calvin CREWS in the db with a son, Willis. Here's him and > his children just in case they might help. It shows Willis b. 1866 and > that would make him about 53 when Willis was b. > > 1 - Calvin McDonald "Mack" Crews - 9997 > Born - May 1831 Camden, GA > Died - Abt 1906/1907 Traders Hill, Charlton, GA > sp- Sarah Jane Stokes - 10005 (3873) > Mar. - Abt 1851 Traders Hill, Charlton, GA > Died - 1900/1910 bet 1900 & 1910 > 2 - Polly Ann Crews - 10470 > Born - Abt 1858 Trader's Hill, Charlton, GA > Died - Abt 1921 Charlton, GA > GENERATIONS OMITTED: MORE INFORMATION AVAILABLE. > 2 - Burton Calvin Crews - 19421 > Born - 26 Jul 1852 Camden Co, GA > Died - 17 Jul 1934 Macclenny, Baker Co, FL > sp- Georgia Ann Bennett - 19469 (7466) > Born - Dec 1860 GA > Mar. - 24 Dec 1879 Charlton Co, GA > Died - 5 Sep 1932 Macclenny, Baker Co, FL > GENERATIONS OMITTED: MORE INFORMATION AVAILABLE. > 2 - Sarah Jane Crews - 19506 > Born - 1862 > Died - 1943 > sp- Dave Carpenter - 19518 (7507) > GENERATIONS OMITTED: MORE INFORMATION AVAILABLE. > 2 - Calvin C./McDonald Crews Jr. - 19507 > Born - 1864 > Died - 1939 > sp- Ella Elizabeth Kirkland - 19520 (7508) > GENERATIONS OMITTED: MORE INFORMATION AVAILABLE. > 2 - Willis Crews - 19508 > Born - 1866 > Died - 1944 > 2 - Prussian Crews - 19509 > Born - 1868 > 2 - Andrew Jackson "Ander" Crews - 19510 > Born - 1868 > Died - 1961 > sp- Minnie M. Raulerson - 19528 (7509) > Born - 1880 > Died - 1944 > 2 - Russian Crews - 19511 > Born - 1869 > 2 - Lucian Hardy Crews - 19512 > Born - 1869 > Died - 1945 > sp- Sarah Crews - 19529 (7510) > Born - 16 Apr 1879 > Mar. - 28 Oct 1894 > Died - 28 Aug 1951 > 2 - Jacob Henry "Pomp" Crews Sr. - 19513 > Born - 1870 > Died - 1956 > sp- Tennie Elizabeth (really Rhoden) Rhodes - 19530 (7511) > Born - 1882 > Died - 1954 > GENERATIONS OMITTED: MORE INFORMATION AVAILABLE. > 2 - William Newton Crews - 19514 > Born - 1874 > Died - 1941 > sp- Mary Knowles - 19536 (7512) > Died - 1950 > GENERATIONS OMITTED: MORE INFORMATION AVAILABLE. > 2 - Courtney Elizabeth Crews - 19515 > Born - 1877 > 2 - Berry Crews - 19516 > Born - 1879 > Died - 1965 > sp- Sarah "Sallie" Crawford - 19545 (7513) > Born - 1890 > Died - 1975 > 2 - Jefferson E. "Jeff" Crews - 19517 > Born - 1883 > Died - 1938 > > > > > > >

It seems I recall someone on our list inquiring about a book called Crews Cousins. I ran across some very old correspondence which speaks of a book published called that and the name given for it was: Mrs. Ann W. Crews; Family Rep., 615 21st Avenue, N. W., Hickory, NC 28601 This may no longer be valid but might be worth a shot to someone desperately trying to find it. Hazel

Connie, Thanks to the usual efficiency of Joanne I'm getting a handle on where we got the name Sarah PLEASANTS for the wife of John S. CREWS. This information came from Jim Crews of Stockton CA and I hope to get in touch with him to find out more. And, coincidentely at about the same time Hazel gave the same name to Brenda. I'm hoping you have more info on that, Hazel? About that time we were still trying to work out the exact lines and we had the data a little mixed together, but still, her name must have come from somewhere. Do they show up on any marriage list? They may not because of the earliness of the marriage. I don't believe I've seen it. But we do have an exact date for the marriage of John CREWS & Sarah Gatley, although I think it's about a year later than it should be. But I wonder where that date came from, and how? Was it publ? Hazel, Another question. What about Sarah MONROE? Did she marry a CREWS? Maybe John? Joanne, I'm so happy to see you posting!!!! I've missed you! Question: When we request more than one file from the archive, do we send a separate request for each file? I lost the first 5 digests when I lost the email program. (see below) Thanks for J. Ernst's address. I'll try it and David's, too. Maybe one of them will work! Re: your message #6, comment #3 re Reuben CREWS and "Eliza Yarbrough" she is listed in the db #11374 as Eliza Y. PHILLIPS d/o Charles PHILLIPS and Anna NIX. Now I'm unable to look at my original note because about Dec 16th my email program did something strange and I had to d/l and install it again. I think the notes are still in the program somewhere but I haven't the foggiest notion as to how to get them. But just go with the assumption that Eliza's middle name is YARBROUGH. I don't think we really know if she was married before. I don't think so, but that's just a guess. Dan, I got to read the CARTER info on cascade.net and got a few more details like the first husband of Susannah CARTER d/o Giles. The desc chart I had gave only her 2nd husband. I really appreciate the tip. Thanks so much. Ok, I'll bite! Which Charles CARTER owned the "Shirley Plantation". I have Charles Vaulx CARTER (1840-1861). I'll bet he's not the one? How about Charles CARTER who m. ____BARKSDALE, s/o Theodrick CARTER (Theodrick, Theodrick, Gile)? He's the one I'm betting on. Right? Do you have his wife's first name? I won't ask you to send a copy of that court record, but could you give the highlights? Virginia, Willis Norman CREWS had a son b. 1919 so he must have died after that. Have you tried getting his death cert? It doesn't sound like you know where he died though. You may have to start with Normans' death cert and look for the b/place of Willis on that, and the name of Normans' mother. Or look for Normans' b/cert. You're big stumbling block on all that is knowing the places/counties. I think Davids' suggestion to look at the census records is your best bet. You can look in the index book for each state to find Willis Norman CREWS and then look at his records. We have a Calvin CREWS in the db with a son, Willis. Here's him and his children just in case they might help. It shows Willis b. 1866 and that would make him about 53 when Willis was b. 1 - Calvin McDonald "Mack" Crews - 9997 Born - May 1831 Camden, GA Died - Abt 1906/1907 Traders Hill, Charlton, GA sp- Sarah Jane Stokes - 10005 (3873) Mar. - Abt 1851 Traders Hill, Charlton, GA Died - 1900/1910 bet 1900 & 1910 2 - Polly Ann Crews - 10470 Born - Abt 1858 Trader's Hill, Charlton, GA Died - Abt 1921 Charlton, GA GENERATIONS OMITTED: MORE INFORMATION AVAILABLE. 2 - Burton Calvin Crews - 19421 Born - 26 Jul 1852 Camden Co, GA Died - 17 Jul 1934 Macclenny, Baker Co, FL sp- Georgia Ann Bennett - 19469 (7466) Born - Dec 1860 GA Mar. - 24 Dec 1879 Charlton Co, GA Died - 5 Sep 1932 Macclenny, Baker Co, FL GENERATIONS OMITTED: MORE INFORMATION AVAILABLE. 2 - Sarah Jane Crews - 19506 Born - 1862 Died - 1943 sp- Dave Carpenter - 19518 (7507) GENERATIONS OMITTED: MORE INFORMATION AVAILABLE. 2 - Calvin C./McDonald Crews Jr. - 19507 Born - 1864 Died - 1939 sp- Ella Elizabeth Kirkland - 19520 (7508) GENERATIONS OMITTED: MORE INFORMATION AVAILABLE. 2 - Willis Crews - 19508 Born - 1866 Died - 1944 2 - Prussian Crews - 19509 Born - 1868 2 - Andrew Jackson "Ander" Crews - 19510 Born - 1868 Died - 1961 sp- Minnie M. Raulerson - 19528 (7509) Born - 1880 Died - 1944 2 - Russian Crews - 19511 Born - 1869 2 - Lucian Hardy Crews - 19512 Born - 1869 Died - 1945 sp- Sarah Crews - 19529 (7510) Born - 16 Apr 1879 Mar. - 28 Oct 1894 Died - 28 Aug 1951 2 - Jacob Henry "Pomp" Crews Sr. - 19513 Born - 1870 Died - 1956 sp- Tennie Elizabeth (really Rhoden) Rhodes - 19530 (7511) Born - 1882 Died - 1954 GENERATIONS OMITTED: MORE INFORMATION AVAILABLE. 2 - William Newton Crews - 19514 Born - 1874 Died - 1941 sp- Mary Knowles - 19536 (7512) Died - 1950 GENERATIONS OMITTED: MORE INFORMATION AVAILABLE. 2 - Courtney Elizabeth Crews - 19515 Born - 1877 2 - Berry Crews - 19516 Born - 1879 Died - 1965 sp- Sarah "Sallie" Crawford - 19545 (7513) Born - 1890 Died - 1975 2 - Jefferson E. "Jeff" Crews - 19517 Born - 1883 Died - 1938

Virginia, In the 1880 Charlton Co, GA census there is a Calvin C. Crews with a son Willis 13 yrs old. Crews, Calvin C. 46 " Sarah Jane 36-wife " Sarah J. 17-dau " Calvin 15-son " Willis 13-son " Lucian H. 12-son " Andrew J. 10-son " Jacob H. 6-son " William N. 4-son " Berry 1-son " William 21-nephew Calvin C. Crews was the son of Roger (b. 1770/90) and Elizabeth Mitchell Crews (b.1790) both born in Colleton Co, SC and married 1808 in that county. Calvin (1826-aft.1906) is buried at Boones Creek Cemetery in St. George, GA. His wife's maiden name is Stokes. From a will we know that her grandfather was John E. Brown. I suggest you look at the 1920 census and see if Norman Frederick Crews is listed as this man's son and check the age of the father b.abt.1867 in FL or GA. David

Joanne - responses to your comments: Charlie Ottosen [email protected] On Tue, 6 Jan 1998, MRS JOANNE R BLACK wrote: > 1. Charles Ottosen asked Pat Ray where she saw Reuben CREWS mentioned on a > list of wills and she couldn't remember. Pat, when you posted that to the > Prodigy bb, you referenced it with > "Georgia Wills 1733-1860" Reuben J. CREWS 1853 Harris Co > Does this help? I have not had time to follow through with this so if anyone knows where I can access this will I would be grateful. > 3. Pat Ray, in Nov when we were doing the email list, you listed the ch of > Reuben Crews and "Eliza Yarbrough, d/o Charles Phillips and Anna Nix". Was > Eliza previously married to a YARBROUGH, or was that her middle name? This is my family and as far as I know Yarbrough is her middle name and Philips (not sure whether it's one "L" or two) is her last name. I saw a history book on Harris Co. Georgia which is where the family lived and there was a General Charles Philips who sounded like a prominent individual. The book listed his children but Eliza was not among them. However, later in the book Reuben is listed as one of the executors of Charles Philips will??? Charlie [email protected] P.S. Just saw your second email concerning the will of Reuben. Thanks for the additional info. I have heard of the Crews News newsletter but have been unable to actually locate copies. I have also heard of an organization called the Crews Cousins but again no luck in finding it. Anyone else heard of these?

To Charles Ottosen and A. Tippett: I'm posting below what was shared on the *P bb back in 1995. I don't know anything about the "Crews News", but hope this gives you some leads. Joanne Black Some material from the Crews News, newsletter Vol 3, No.2, Feb, Mar, Apr 1992 Georgia Wills 1733 - 1860 Benedictine Crews 1841 Wilkes County Charity Crews 1836 Chatham County Etheldred Crews 1823 Putnam Co Isham Crews 1802 Liberty Co James Crews 1824 Effingham Co John Crews 1825 Clarke Co Micajah Crews 1823 Camden Co Reuben J Crews 1853 Harris Co FAMILY HEADS 1805 GEORGIA David Crews, Franklin County; wife Judy. Etheldred Crews, Washington Co; wife Susannah Russell, married Wilkes Co 1792; moved to Putnam Co;' died 1823. John Crews, Burke Co; wife Clary Merritt John Crews, Camden Co; died 1825; wife Lucy Hardwick Martin, son of Stanley Crews, Oglethorpe Co; mar Ginny Gordon Stanley Crews (orphans of), Wilkes Co; he died 1793; wife Agatha. Thomas Crews, Franklin Co; wife Ann.

To A. Tippett: Found this Etheldred in my db, is this who you're looking for? It appears this is all I have on him (no parents, no children, no siblings, and no info on his wife). Would love to have any descendant info you have on him. (am assuming you don't have anything on ancestors or sibs and their spouses). Georgia Wills 1733-1860 Etheldred CREWS 1823 Putnam Co. Family Heads Georgia 1805: Etheldred CREWS, Washington Co, wife Susannah Russell, m. Wilkes Co 1792, moved to Putnam Co, died 1823. This is the 2nd time this Georgia Wills list has come up. I'm going to see if I can find where that ref came from. Joanne

I just got some information on a Calvin Crews who in 1880 was 46...I have a list of all of Calvin's children...he was married to Sarah Jane(46) granddaughter of John E. Brown. calvin's children in a Charlton Co., GA census of 1880 were Sarah J 17 calvin 15 Willis 13 Lucian H 12 Andrew J 10 Jacob H 6 William N 4 Berry 1 I am wondering if the son listed as Willis Crews is possibly the father of Willis Norman Crews who is my great grandfather...any information on that? Please help if you can Virginia Crews

Pat--Last address I had for Jo Anne Ernst was [email protected] I don't think she is on GEnie any longer. But she didn't answer my Christmas greeting. But I guess everyone is busy.--Bill

1. Charles Ottosen asked Pat Ray where she saw Reuben CREWS mentioned on a list of wills and she couldn't remember. Pat, when you posted that to the Prodigy bb, you referenced it with "Georgia Wills 1733-1860" Reuben J. CREWS 1853 Harris Co Does this help? 2. Pat Ray, you were asking for Jo Anne Ernst's email address, the last one I have for her is: [email protected] 3. Pat Ray, in Nov when we were doing the email list, you listed the ch of Reuben Crews and "Eliza Yarbrough, d/o Charles Phillips and Anna Nix". Was Eliza previously married to a YARBROUGH, or was that her middle name? Sorry to have been so quiet, I'm slowly catching up and hopefully should be a better participant. Joanne Black aka Gus

Hi all, this is my first attempt to post so hope it works! It is very simple to get the old notes from the archives in digest mode. Send an email to this address: [email protected] In the subject line put: archive In the message area put (this is an example to get the first one): get volume97/1 (for the second one the message would be: get volume97/2, etc) For 1997 we had volume97/1 through volume97/17. In 1998, they started over with the numbers, the first one being volume98/1. Joanne Black

> Pat, > I need your listing of Fannie CREWS grandchildren. .. .I am showing more Diggs > children than you are. . .for Littleberry, Wm, and Armsberry. I have two for > benj. Diggs but no grandchildren. > > Bren -------- REPLY, End of original message -------- Here you go. I obtained grandchildren for Bejamin DIGGS from the Ancestral File. Let me know if you need more that I might have and who I am missing. I only included the male children of Fanny, of course. Fannie Crews - 3 generations 5 Jan 1998 1 - Frances (Fanny) Crews - 260 Born - 1772 VA, (abt 1762 VA) Died - 7 Apr 1838 Winchester, Randolph Co, IN sp- William Diggs - 776 (249) Born - 1760 1754?)Middlesex/, Caroline Co, VA Mar. - 7 Apr 1792 Anson Co,NC - or, Caroline Co,VA, (8/7/1792?) Died - 15 May 1854 Winchester, Randolph Co, IN 2 - Littleberry Diggs - 7596 Born - 17 Dec 1793 Anson Co, NC Died - 20 Feb 1846 Randolph Co, IN sp- Lydia Way - 7605 (2947) Born - 5 Jan 1791 Piney Grove MM, Marlborough Dist, SC Mar. - 21 Mar 1811 Piney Grove MM, Marlborough Dist, SC Died - Bef Apr 1841 Randolph Co, IN 3 - Anna Eliza Diggs - 30159 3 - Elizabeth Diggs - 30160 3 - Rasma Diggs - 30161 3 - Francis Clark Diggs - 30162 sp- Hannah Mendenhall - 7606 (2948) Born - 15 Jun 1811 VA Mar. - 11 Mar 1841 Piney Grove MM, Marlborough Dist, SC Died - 20 Sep 1892 Winchester, Randolph Co, IN 3 - Francis Clark Diggs - 30163 Born - 12 Sep 1845 Winchester, Randolph Co, IN sp- Emma A. Mendenhall - 30164 (11843) Born - 4 May 1849 Randolph Co, IN GENERATIONS OMITTED: MORE INFORMATION AVAILABLE. sp- Callie Hueston - 30174 (11844) Born - Abt 1845 2 - William Diggs - 7597 Born - 17 Dec 1793 Anson Co, NC Died - 1885 Earlham, IA sp- Charlotte Way - 7607 (2949) Born - 3 May 1798 NC Mar. - 16 Oct 1816 Wayne Co, IN Died - 31 Jan 1877 Randolph Co, IN 3 - Fannie Diggs - 30181 Born - 11 Sep 1817 White River, Randolph Co, IN sp- Matthew Hill - 30187 (11851) 3 - Joseph Diggs - 30182 Born - 1827 Ind 3 - Henry Diggs - 30183 Born - 1831 Ind 3 - Anthony Diggs - 30184 Born - 1833 Ind 3 - Ruth Diggs - 30185 Born - Abt 1833 Ind 3 - Ruth Diggs - 30186 Born - 1839 Ind 2 - Armsberry (/Armsbee) Diggs - 7598 Born - 9 Jun 1793 Anson Co, NC Died - 9 Mar 1872 Randolph Co, IN sp- Mary Way - 7608 (2950) Born - Abt 1800 Mar. - 1827 NC, (abt 1827) 3 - Henry Diggs - 30188 Born - 1820 Randolph Co, Ind sp- Nancy unknown - 30197 (11852) Born - 1821 NC GENERATIONS OMITTED: MORE INFORMATION AVAILABLE. 3 - John Diggs - 30189 Born - 1826 Randolph Co, Ind sp- Elizabeth unknown - 30202 (11853) Born - 1829 OH 3 - Jepe Diggs - 30190 Born - 1828 Randolph Co, Ind 3 - Jesse Diggs - 30191 Born - Abt 1828 3 - Rachael Diggs - 30192 Born - 1833 Ind 3 - William Diggs - 30193 Born - 1836 Ind 3 - Mathew Diggs - 30194 Born - 1840 Ind 3 - Fanny Diggs - 30195 Born - 1843 Randolph Co, Ind 3 - Nancy Diggs - 30196 Born - Abt 1843 Ind 2 - Mark Diggs - 7600 Born - 20 Apr 1799 Anson Co, NC Died - 14 Jun 1878 Randolph Co, IN sp- Susannah Way - 7612 (2953) Born - 4 Jan 1807 Mar. - 1826 (abt 1826) Died - 7 Oct 1885 2 - John Diggs - 7601 Born - 8 Aug 1802 Anson Co, NC Died - 22 Jan 1863 Randolph Co, IN sp- Olive Puckett - 7613 (2954) Born - Anson Co, NC Mar. - 6 Oct 1824 New Garden MM, Wayne Co, IN sp- Catharine Puckett - 7614 (2955) Born - 16 Apr 1804 Mar. - 25 Jun 1830 New Garden MM, Wayne Co, IN Died - 29 Oct 1867 2 - Benjamin Clark Diggs - 7602 Born - 16 Dec 1804 Anson Co, NC Died - 13 Aug 1853 Randolph Co, IN sp- Abigail Willits/Willites - 7615 (2956) Mar. - 25 Feb 1830 New Garden MM, Wayne Co, IN 3 - Hiram C. Diggs - 30204 Born - 14 Apr 1833 White River, Randolph Co, Ind sp- Hannah Mendenhall - 30206 (11854) Born - 2 Dec 1834 Ind GENERATIONS OMITTED: MORE INFORMATION AVAILABLE. (SEE BELOW) sp- Elizabeth Francis Carpenter - 30218 (11856) Born - 27 Sep 1848 Putnam Co, MO GENERATIONS OMITTED: MORE INFORMATION AVAILABLE. - (SEE BELOW) sp- Elizabeth F. Wylie - 30225 (11860) Born - Abt 1849 MO 3 - Allen C. Diggs - 30205 Born - 1835 Randolph Co, Ind sp- Phebe Willits - 7616 (2957) Mar. - 1 Jan 1851 Hinckles Creek M, Hamilton, IN 1 - Hiram C. Diggs - 30204 Born - 14 Apr 1833 White River, Randolph Co, Ind Note - from AF Not sure if his mother is Abigail or Phebe Willits. sp- Hannah Mendenhall - 30206 (11854) Born - 2 Dec 1834 Ind Note - from AF 2 - Louis O. Diggs - 30207 Born - 29 Oct 1855 Note - from AF 2 - Allen Frank Diggs - 30208 Born - 14 Oct 1857 Note - from AF 2 - H. Elmer Diggs - 30209 Born - 4 Apr 1862 Note - from AF 2 - Ida A. Diggs - 30210 Born - 6 Mar 1865 Note - from AF 2 - Ed A. Diggs - 30211 Born - 22 Jan 1867 Note - from AF 2 - Hattie Diggs - 30212 Born - 11 Mar 1869 Note - from AF 2 - A. R. Diggs - 30213 Born - 9 Apr 1870 Note - from AF 2 - Eliza V. "Lizzie" Diggs - 30214 Born - 28 Oct 1872 Note - from AF 2 - John D. Diggs - 30215 Born - 10 Dec 1874 Note - from AF 2 - Elizabeth "Lizzy" Diggs - 30216 Born - 29 Mar 1877 Adair, Iowa Note - from AF May be duplicate of Eliza "Lizzie". sp- John Walter Ivy - 30217 (11855) Born - 23 Aug 1868 Perry, Ala Note - from AF sp- Elizabeth Francis Carpenter - 30218 (11856) Born - 27 Sep 1848 Putnam Co, MO Note - from AF 2 - Alvin Edgar Diggs - 30219 Born - 1 Feb 1884 KS Note - from AF sp- Anna Peterson - 30222 (11857) Born - 3 Nov 1882 Jefferson Co, NE Note - from AF 2 - Charles Clarence Diggs - 30220 Born - 29 Jun 1886 Hardilee Po, Smith Co, KS Note - from AF sp- Carrie Josephine McDaniels - 30223 (11858) Note - from AF 2 - Homer Diggs - 30221 Born - 15 Jul 1889 Southwest City, McDonald Co, MO Note - from AF sp- Lola Epsom - 30224 (11859) Note - from AF sp- Elizabeth F. Wylie - 30225 (11860) Born - Abt 1849 MO Note - from AF Pat

Re: recent posts that the wife of John CREWS who patented land on Dry Creek in Lunenburg Co VA in 1749 with Richard CREWS, his presumed brother, was Sarah PLEASANTS. I realize this is often stated to be the case, but I'm still looking for the PROOF of this (I'll even take credible circumstantial evidence from original source documents). Can anyone cite the first published statement that this is the name of his wife? Thanks!!!