Bob, Yes, that's our bunch, isn't it! Hazel On Thu, 15 Jan 1998, Robert Jordan wrote: > Found a short article in "Granville Connection," publication of the > Granville County Gen. Soc. which tells about family of Gedeon Crews Sr. > and Jr. Apparently they attended the Salem Church and lived nearby. > Other family names listed as members were Earls and Harrises. I dont > think the article tells more than we already know concerning these > families, but many of these families are buried in the Salem Church > grounds. The article mentions that the descendants of James Crews and > his wife Sarah Earl are represented well in this area today. Current > names mentioned who are attached to this family today were the late > Sarah Earl Hunt, Frank Earl Parham, the New York lawyer, F. Earl Hunt > and Elbert Earl Fuller of Oxford, and Julian Earl Harris, son of the > late Samuel R. Harris of Henderson, who is now a professor at U. of > Wisconsin. > > Bob Jordan > >

Found a short article in "Granville Connection," publication of the Granville County Gen. Soc. which tells about family of Gedeon Crews Sr. and Jr. Apparently they attended the Salem Church and lived nearby. Other family names listed as members were Earls and Harrises. I dont think the article tells more than we already know concerning these families, but many of these families are buried in the Salem Church grounds. The article mentions that the descendants of James Crews and his wife Sarah Earl are represented well in this area today. Current names mentioned who are attached to this family today were the late Sarah Earl Hunt, Frank Earl Parham, the New York lawyer, F. Earl Hunt and Elbert Earl Fuller of Oxford, and Julian Earl Harris, son of the late Samuel R. Harris of Henderson, who is now a professor at U. of Wisconsin. Bob Jordan

Pat, I show no issue for Constance WHICKER and Matthew CREWS. I have 5 children for Constance and Reuben CREWS however. They are: Harmon, James, Mary, Patsey Jane "Martha" CREWS and Milly CREWS. Hazel

Someone posted sometime ago info. relating to Lincoln and his Secretary of War, William Stanton after the Civil War. Supposedly Lincoln & Stanton ordered the hanging of about 10,000 Confederate soldiers and sympathizers. The hangings were done in the Washington Navy Yard. One gallows could hang 10 people at once & the hangings went on for over two years. Elmer A. "Bud" Houser may have made the post or else was credited for the information. In any event I seem to have lost most of the posting and would like to know more. Can anyone help me? Hazel

Hazel, I have merged Constance WHICKER, wife of Matthew CREWS, and Constance WHICKER, wife of Reubin CREWS. I see she has two children by Reubin but none by Matthew. Is this right? And Bren, Yes, I do agree where Joseph CREWS & Mary McMANNUS are placed. And thanks for reminding me where we got that placement. I also have 7 children for them. Does anyone have another generation for this couple? Pat

Pat, Chuck & especially Bren, Oops...I see I did make a terrible boo boo by saying "Constance then married his brother Reuben". We are speaking here of Matthew CREWS, Constance WHICKER & Reuben CREWS. Constance 1st md. Matthew, s/o Ephiram CREWS & Rachel. She then md. Reuben CREWS, s/o James & Amelia. Some researchers believe Constance never md. Matthew but I beg to differ. Reason: Constance WHICKER Crews attested to having grown up with and knew Mary Dean and that Constance and her husband, Matthew CREWS attended the wedding of James WHICKER & Mary DEAN. At the time she made this attestment she swore she was 86 yrs. old. The instrument was made in 1858. James WHICKER and Mary DEAN married in 1792. I believe Constance later md. Reuben CREWS. Matthew CREWS was the son of Ephraim CREWS who in his will (Halifax Co. VA) left his estate to his wife Rachel for her lifetime; after her death it was to be divided between his sons, Ephraim and a Joseph M. Haney upon payment to his son Matthew $150.00. At his wife's death certain property was to be divided between his daughters, Patsy, Sally, Rebecca & Rachael. The Admas. Bondsmen were Benjamin Lax & Matthew CREWS. The 1858 instrument is worded by Constance as saying she was at the time of the wedding of James & Mary Dean she, Constance was married to Matthew CREWS. This indicates that she was later married to someone else as of the time the instrument was written. I hope this clarifies matters. I truly am sorry for my goof in my prior message and hope this straightens everyone out. Hazel

Brenda, Here is the list of desc's of Dorothea Magatsch/Moesch & Johannes Fehr , Sr. as I have it. 1 - Johannes Bernhard (Fehr) Fair Sr. - 11074 Born - Abt 1730 Germania, Lycoming Co, PA Died - Sep 1787 Surry Co, NC sp- Dorothea Magatsch/Moesch - 11075 (4210) Born - Abt 1739 Surry Co, NC Mar. - Abt 1749 Died - Bef 1785 2 - Maria Eva (Fehr) Fair - 21439 Born - 1751 2 - Hans Michael (/Fehr/Fare) Fair Sr. - 21440 Born - 1754 Died - 1820 sp- Mary Ann Guinn - 21441 (8351) Died - 1823 3 - Jane "Jenny" Fair - 21442 sp- Israel Robinson - 21451 (8352) Died - 1819 GENERATIONS OMITTED: MORE INFORMATION AVAILABLE. 3 - John Fair - 21443 Born - (had a son &, a dau) 3 - Michael (/Fare) Fair - 21444 Born - 1791 sp- Polly Mary? Robinson - 21457 (8353) Born - 1792 GENERATIONS OMITTED: MORE INFORMATION AVAILABLE. 3 - Mary Fair - 21445 sp- William Robinson - 21466 (8354) 3 - Barnabas (twin?) Fair - 21446 Born - 1800 sp- Clarisa "Clary" Jackson - 21467 (8355) Born - 1806 GENERATIONS OMITTED: MORE INFORMATION AVAILABLE. 3 - Robert Crawford (twin?) Fair - 21447 Born - 1800 Died - 1880 sp- Jemima Hester - 21477 (8356) Born - 1807 Died - 1828 GENERATIONS OMITTED: MORE INFORMATION AVAILABLE. sp- Nancy Brown - 21480 (8357) Born - 1810 GENERATIONS OMITTED: MORE INFORMATION AVAILABLE. 3 - Elizabeth Fair - 21448 Born - 1802 sp- John Parke Voss - 21490 (8358) GENERATIONS OMITTED: MORE INFORMATION AVAILABLE. 3 - William Dobson "Billy" Fair - 21449 Born - 1805 Died - 1889 sp- Nancy Van Hoy - 21498 (8359) Born - 1808 Died - 1858 GENERATIONS OMITTED: MORE INFORMATION AVAILABLE. sp- Malinda Hendricks - 21506 (8360) GENERATIONS OMITTED: MORE INFORMATION AVAILABLE. 3 - Mary Ann (/Fare) Fair - 21450 2 - Johannes "John" (Fehr) Fair Jr. - 11072 Born - 17 Apr 1757 Burks Co, PA Died - Jul 1795 Stokes Co, NC sp- Alice "Aley" Ensley - 11073 (4209) 3 - John (/Fare) Fair - 21436 Born - (had 2 sons &, 2 daus) 3 - Abigail "Abie" Fair - 21437 sp- (hsbAbigFair) Davis - 21438 (8350) 3 - Dorothy Fair - 4500 Born - 1780 Forsyth Co, NC Died - 29 Sep 1845 Forsyth Co, NC sp- William Crews - 4499 (1672) Born - Mar 1778 Forsyth Co, NC, (Stokes Co NC?) Mar. - 8 Feb 1803 Forsyth Co, NC, (Stokes Co NC?), (2/8/1803?) Died - 1 Apr 1834 Stokes Co, NC GENERATIONS OMITTED: MORE INFORMATION AVAILABLE. 3 - Alice "Aley" Fair - 11078 Born - 1786 sp- Robert Linville - 11081 (4213) Born - 1778 GENERATIONS OMITTED: MORE INFORMATION AVAILABLE. 3 - Nancy (Faire) Fair - 11077 Born - 1792 sp- Peter Fulp - 11080 (4212) Born - 1790 Mar. - 3 Mar 1813 GENERATIONS OMITTED: MORE INFORMATION AVAILABLE. 3 - Mary "Polly" Fair - 11076 Born - 1796 sp- Daries/Darius (/Mastin) Masten - 11079 (4211) Born - 1796 GENERATIONS OMITTED: MORE INFORMATION AVAILABLE. 2 - Barnabas Fair Jr. - 21508 Born - 1759 Died - 1836 sp- Catherine (Waggoner) Wagner - 21511 (8361) Born - 1765 Died - 1803 3 - John Fair - 21512 Born - 1787 Died - 1835 sp- Mary (wfJohnFair) - 21517 (8362) Born - 1793 GENERATIONS OMITTED: MORE INFORMATION AVAILABLE. 3 - (d/o BarnFair) Fair - 21513 3 - William Fair - 21514 Born - 1794 Died - 1853 sp- Virginia Jane (Elliot) Elliott - 21523 (8363) Born - 1812 GENERATIONS OMITTED: MORE INFORMATION AVAILABLE. 3 - Adam Fair - 21515 Born - 1800 Died - 1847 sp- Mary Keziah Herrin - 21531 (8364) GENERATIONS OMITTED: MORE INFORMATION AVAILABLE. 3 - Barnabas Fair III - 21516 Born - 1802 Died - 1887 sp- Nancy Duckworth - 21540 (8365) Born - 1807 Died - 1870 GENERATIONS OMITTED: MORE INFORMATION AVAILABLE. sp- Mahala Jane Obedience Hunt - 22749 (8876) Born - 1839 Died - 1919 GENERATIONS OMITTED: MORE INFORMATION AVAILABLE. sp- Roseanna Griffin - 21552 (8366) Born - 1774 Died - 1820 2 - Margaret Fair - 21509 Born - 1761 Died - 1833 sp- William Lowe - 21553 (8367) Born - 1756 Died - 1835 3 - Dorothea Lowe - 21554 Born - 1780 sp- David Heffington - 21557 (8368) GENERATIONS OMITTED: MORE INFORMATION AVAILABLE. 3 - Charity Lowe - 21555 Born - 1782 Died - 1851 sp- James Butler - 21559 (8369) GENERATIONS OMITTED: MORE INFORMATION AVAILABLE. 3 - Mary Ann Lowe - 21556 Born - 1784 (had 4 sons &, 3 daus) Died - 1862 sp- John I. Deberry - 21574 (8370) GENERATIONS OMITTED: MORE INFORMATION AVAILABLE. 3 - John Farr Lowe - 21577 Born - 1786 Died - 1854 sp- Mary Ann Gilleland - 21585 (8371) Born - 1786 GENERATIONS OMITTED: MORE INFORMATION AVAILABLE. 3 - Barnabas Farr Lowe - 21578 Born - 1788 sp- Margaret Carelock - 21591 (8372) sp- Pamela Childress - 21592 (8373) 3 - Mournen Lowe - 21579 Born - 1791 sp- John Gibson - 21593 (8374) 3 - Katie Lowe - 21580 Born - 1793 d.y. Died - 1796 3 - Agnes Johnston Lowe - 21581 Born - 1796 Died - 1825 sp- John Gilliland - 21594 (8375) 3 - Nancy Greer Lowe - 21582 Born - 1798 Died - 1827 sp- Jacob Gibson - 21595 (8376) 3 - Margaret Farr Lowe - 21583 Born - 1806 Died - 1860 sp- Isaac Shell - 21596 (8377) 3 - Patsy Ann Beezley Lowe - 21584 Born - 1808 Died - 1881 sp- John Wesley Deberry - 21597 (8378) Born - 1801 GENERATIONS OMITTED: MORE INFORMATION AVAILABLE. 2 - Barbara Fair - 21510 Born - 1763 2 - Dorothy Fair - 21600 Born - 1765 sp- David Linville - 21602 (8379) Born - 1769 Died - 1811 3 - George (twin?) Linville - 21603 Born - 1786 sp- Elizabeth Barrow - 21613 (8380) Born - 1788 GENERATIONS OMITTED: MORE INFORMATION AVAILABLE. 3 - Betty Ann (twin?) Linville - 21604 Born - 1786 Died - 1870 sp- Talley Wicker Sr. - 21615 (8381) Born - 1784 Died - 1854 GENERATIONS OMITTED: MORE INFORMATION AVAILABLE. 3 - Nancy Linville - 21605 Born - 1789 sp- Elijah Wicker - 21625 (8382) 3 - Moses Linville - 21606 Born - 1792 Died - 1853 sp- Katherine Crim - 21626 (8383) Born - 1804 Died - 1882 GENERATIONS OMITTED: MORE INFORMATION AVAILABLE. 3 - John Linville - 21607 Born - 1796 Died - 1875 sp- Frances Crim - 21634 (8384) Born - 1799 Died - 1876 GENERATIONS OMITTED: MORE INFORMATION AVAILABLE. 3 - Barbara (twin?) Linville - 21608 Born - 1797 sp- Joseph Hester - 21640 (8385) Born - 1798 Died - 1877 3 - Charity (twin?) Linville - 21609 Born - 1797 Died - 1877 sp- Lewis Crim - 21641 (8386) Born - 1797 Died - 1859 GENERATIONS OMITTED: MORE INFORMATION AVAILABLE. 3 - David John Linville - 21610 Born - 1799 Died - 1840 sp- Lucy Hester - 21651 (8387) Born - 1800 3 - Benjamin Fewell/Fuel Linville - 21611 Born - 1805 Died - 1888 sp- Mary Holbrook - 21652 (8388) sp- Ardenia F. "Polly" (wfBenjLnvl) - 21653 (8389) GENERATIONS OMITTED: MORE INFORMATION AVAILABLE. 3 - Dorothy Linville - 21612 Born - 1807 sp- Wyatt W. Ragsdill - 21662 (8390) 2 - Mary Anna Fair - 21601 Born - 1767 (had 5 sons &, 3 daus) sp- William Beasley - 21663 (8391) 3 - (d/oWmBeasley) Beasley - 21664 Born - 1789 sp- Elizabeth (2wfBarnFair) - 21665 (8392)

Does anyone know why John Crew changed his name to Crews?

To All, What do you have on Anne CREWS d/o John CREWS & Agatha ELLYSON concerning her children. Who is the father of her children Isabel, John, Milicent, Jesse, Gabriel & Agatha? Pat

Rosemary, I have 4 Rebecca TERRELs but the one you have, d/o Thomas TERRELL and Revecca PEATROSS m. Lemuel TERRELL 15 Arp 1804. He was s/o Pleasant TERRELL & Catharine FARIS/PHARISS Everything I have on the TERRELLs goes back to Henry TERRELL and Susannah WATERS. I don't have anything as early as what you have. There's a couple of Richmond's in the db, but they're much later. The only Robert I have is Robert Adams TERRELL b. c1800 Boonville MO. I am so fascinated by the TERRELLs and the MERIWETHERs and the LEWISs. They overlap constantly and the twists and turns go on and on! The LEWISes are swarming all over Franklin Co, Mo where my John CREWS moved from Madison Co, KY. And I don't think I'm related to any of them! But my CREWS & EMMONS married into the families. Another line I can't leave alone is MUSICK. If you need or just want the TERREL lines, I can send you copies of Desc. charts. Pat

<Hey you all! I don't have a David as a son of Joseph & Massie. Has it been documented that he actually was a son of theirs? Incidentally, I show that son Joseph's wife may have been Mary McManus (not proven.) Hazel> When we first started compiling all this data I had Mary McMANNUS in my DB 3 times, from 3 different people. wife of: Joseph [John, Andrew, Andrew, John] Joseph [ Andrew, John, Andrew, John] Joseph [Joseph, John] Always m. to a Joseph - the line beginning with John CREW & Sarah GATLEY . I really gave up trying to figure it out. Right now she's in the DB only once. Joseph [Andrew, Andrew, John] How she got there is a good question that I think maybe Joanne can answer. Pat

Dan, I actually have 6 Ashley JOHNSONs in my db. 1. parents Benj. JOHNSON & Margaret MASSEY 2. parents John JOHNSON & Lucretia MASSEY 3. father William JOHNSON; wife Milly JOHNSON (cousin) 4. parents Philip JOHNSON & Martha HUBBARD; wife Elizabeth HOUGH 5. parents John JOHNSON Jr. & Elizabeth ELLYSON; wife Agatha STANLEY 6. this is Jr., no parents shown; m. Elizabeth CREWS I guess that's not much help! I'd like to link him up to the JOHNSON clan, too. Pat

I'm trying to find Church records for Hardy Crews and family in NC. Can anyone help? Rosemary

Crews in Quaker Records Mentioned in the New Garden Monthly Meeting Guilford Co., NC were: Crews 1738 Hannah 1799 Hannah 1815 Mary 1815 Hannah 1816 Rachel (mentioned Grason Co., VA) 1817 Mary 1816 Rhoda Hubbard 1811 Hardy 1816 Jacob 1818 Jacob 1818 Anna & Sarah 1818 Jacob, Guilford Co., m. Phebe Swain 1820 George & ch, William, John, Elias & T. Chalkley 1820 Ann & 2 dau Martha & Anna Grace 1824 Mary & 5 ch Martha, Susana & Mary 1824 Joesph, Jr. 1825 Simeon ... of father, Hardy 1825 Hardy & fam 1826 George & fam 1827 Joseph m. Achsah Coffin 1827 Sarah 1843 Phebe & dau. Emily A. And others...... ************************************** Mentioned in the Deep River Monthly Meeting Guilford Co., NC were: Crews David b. 9__ 1735; d. 3__ 1826 Sarah b. 5-27-1743; d. 10-24-1842 Crews 1789 Elizabeth of Muddy Creek 1789 Elizabeth, dau David & Sarah, Surry Co., m. Charles Pidgeon 1790 Sarah 1796 Sarah Merideth (form Crews)* 1799 Armsby 1799 Joseph living near Pee Dee River 1799 Lucy & dau Agnes " " " 1807 Phebe (of muddy Creek) 1807 Phebe 1810 Phebe 1810 Phebe Coleman (form Crews) 1817 Joseph (of Muddy Creek) ********************************* Mentioned in Black Water Monthly Meeting in VA (Don't have name of county this is in) Crews 1767 Benjamin* 1801 Jacob* 1767 Benjamin Henrico, VA 1767 Benjamin Margaret Hunnicutt 1767 Margaret 1780 Ellyson* 1781 Hardy, Caswell Co., NC ...Brunswick Co. 1784 Charles & Judith* 1785 Hannah Does anyone have the next page (106)? ************************************** Crews mentioned in Upper Monthly Meeting in VA Crews 1801 Hardemon* 1802 Hardemon* 1803 Hardemon* 1804 Hardemon* 1806 Hardimon non attendance 1806 Hardimon Spring MM Orange Co., NC 1815 Benjamin & Sarah* 1816 Benjamin & w 1820 Eleazer* 1820 Mirim, minor* 1821 Eleazer* 1821 Eleazer Charles City Co 1823 Miriem H. * More information available

Pat, Chuck & Bren, Constance WHICKER, b. 1772 was the d/o John & Martha WHICKER. She 1st md. Matthew CREWS according to her deposition made in 1858 for the Rev. War pension of James WHICKER sought by James' widow. Constance WHICKER stated in the deposition that when James and his wife were married in 1792 that she, Constance WHICKER was then married to Matthew CREWS. Now, Reubin CREWS names Constance as his wife in his will as does he name his children. We do not know what happened to Matthew but can only assume he died and Constance then married his brother Reuben. In answer to your question Pat, yes this would be the same Constance WHICKER. She is sometimes refered to as Cony or even Corny. Incidentally, like Pat, I also show Elizabeth as a ch. of James & Amelia. Hazel

Pat, You were recently asking about some Terrells. I only have one Rebecca listed in my database. I'm sure there are more. This one is dau. of Thomas and Rebecca (Peatross) Terrell. She was born 22 Dec 1780 St. Margaret's Parish, Caroline Co., VA. I don't have a husband listed. Thomas was son of Henry and Anne (Chiles) Terrell. I show Robert and Jane (Balwin) with two sons named Richmond. Have no idea why since it seems the elder one was still living when the other was born. Of course, there may not have been two named Richmond. Sons of Robert (above) Richmond Terrell, Sr. born 17 Oct 1624 England, m. Elizabeth Waters Richmond Terrell born before 1658 New Kent Co., VA Richmond Terrell, Jr., son of Richmond, Sr. born 1650 m. Susanna Waters William Terrell, son of Richmond, Sr. born 1656 m. Susanna Waters Something sure looks wrong here. I don't have a Margaret Douglas Meriwether listed at all. I think the reason is I must have only entered my lines and never went back and did the other ones. Rosemary

Pat (or anyone with info), (1) Regarding "Ashley Johnson, Jr.", do you (or anyone) have his mother's name? I have info on three Ashley Johnsons, all descendents of John Johnson and Lucretia Massie, and I'd like to tie this Ashley Jr. into my database. (2) Also, does anyone know who the 'Sarah Crew' was that married (before 1739) a Charles Johnson (brother of Massie Johnson who married Joseph Crew)? Thanks!

Hey you all! I don't have a David as a son of Joseph & Massie. Has it been documented that he actually was a son of theirs? Incidentally, I show that son Joseph's wife may have been Mary McManus (not proven.) Hazel

Chuck, You sent a Desc list for this couple back on Dec 21. I know, I'm slow ! I checked it against what I have and it seems I have two more ch. than you. 1. Matthew CREWS m. Constance WICKER/WHICKER b. 1772 d/o John & Martha Matthews' brother Reubin was also m. to a Constance WICKER b. 1775. No parents shown. Is this the same Constance? 2. Elizabeth CREWS m. Ashley JOHNSON, Jr. Pat

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