And the Kilmodck family: PETER CRERAR = Christian MCLAREN Their son: I. DONALD CRERAR (bc 1813 Ballemore, Kenmore - d 12 October 1855 Doune) = Catherine MCINTYRE (d.before 1855) Donald was a weaver of Doune. On his son John's death certificate he was referred to as a labourer. Donald's death was recorded: 1855 Death Kilmadock #57 - Donald CRERAR, Labourer, 42y born Balmore, parish of Kenmore, lived Kilmadock 9 years. Parents were Peter CRERAR, Weaver & Christian McLAREN. Married Catherine CRERAR ms McINTYRE decd. Children were Christina, 21. Anne, decd at 2y. Peter, 15; Janet, 14; John, 12. Annie, 9. Daniel decd at 1y. Duncan 5y. Died Oct 12, 1855 2pm at Doune of Conica Pictonum, 5 days duration. Cert'd Thomas Inmeison or Jameison, Surgeon, Doune who last saw decd 12 Oct. Buried Doune Churchyard, certd Daniel MacNiven, Undertaker, Doune. Informant was Janet Crerar, her markr [X]. Reg'd Oct 12 at Doune, John Simpson Reg'r. Neither his marriage nor the birth of his daughter is listed in the IGI. This branch of the family is being researched by Mr. Norm Chandler, (7 Monterey Court, Kardinya, Western Australia) who was kind enough to send this information. A. CHRISTINA CRERAR (bc 1834 - alive 1855) B. ANNE CRERAR (died at age 2) C. PETER CRERAR (bc 1840 -alive 1901) = Isabella STEVENSON (bc 1837 -alive 1901) Their marriage was recorded 5 Sep 1862 Kilmadock. In 1881 the family resided at 18 Milton Terrace, Bonhill, Dumbarton [census]. In 1891 Peter (51), Isabella (54), Janet (21), Ann (17), Peter (12), and William (10) lived in Bonhill [Census]. In 1901 Peter (62) and Isa (64) lived at Port of Mentieth [Census]. In 1916 they lived at 7 Willowbank Crescent, Glasgow [son Peter's death record]. 1. CHRISTINA CRERAR (b. 9 Dec 1862, Kilmadock - d. 1887, age 24, Bonhill 493-161) [census] 2. DANIEL/ DONALD CRERAR (b. 25 Aug 1864 Kilmadock 362-51 -alive 1891) [census] = Helen Glen___ MCLEAN (d 1938 Kelvingrove, 78y, ISC644/09 0577 - alive 1891) Donald and Helen McLean married June 1887 Bonhill [ISC]. Helen Glen McLean was the daughter of Duncan McLean and Helen Glen. In 1891 Helen Crerar (bc 1831 -alive 1891), DONALD CRERAR (bc 1865 -alive 1891), PETER CRERAR (bc 1888 -alive 1891), HELEN CRERAR (bc 1889 -alive 1891), ISABELLA CRERAR (bc 1891 -alive 1891) lived together in St. Rollox, Glasgow [Census]. Donald and Edith had eleven children [Shirley Gaskill: salisbury@ihug.com.au]: a. PETER CRERAR (b. 1888 Glasgow -d. 21 August 1916, Somme, WWI) Peter was a Sergeant in the "B" Company, 5th Battalion of the Cameronian (Scottish Rifles) (6316) He was killed in the First World War at the age of 28 [CWGC, Edinburgh Castle Book of Fame]. He is buried at Thistle Dump Cemetery, High Wood, Longueval [grave: A. 27]. Longueval is a village in the Department of the Somme, 11 kilometres east of Albert. Thistle Dump Cemetery was begun in August 1916, and used as a front-line cemetery until February 1917; and the Germans buried five of their dead in it in March and April, 1918. It was increased after the Armistice by the concentration of 56 graves from the Somme battlefields. There are now nearly 200 1914-1918 war casualties buried in this site. Of these, nearly 60 are unidentified, with special memorials are erected to them. b. HELEN GLEN CRERAR (b. 1889 Kelvin, Glasgow 644-9-585) c. ISABELLA STEVENSON CRERAR (b.1890 Renton 494-2-145) d. ___________ CRERAR e. MAGGIE GLEN CRERAR (b. 1892 St. Rollox, Glasgow 644-6-1098) f. ___________ CRERAR g. ___________ CRERAR h. ___________ CRERAR i. ___________ CRERAR j. MARY MCLEAN CRERAR (b. 1895 Anderston, Glasgow 644-10-1317) k. DUNCAN MCLEAN CRERAR (b. 1897 Kelvin, Glasgow 644-3-2470 - d 1980 or 1981 Mona Vale Hospital, NSW) = Edith Amelia MCCORMACK (b 1899 Glasgow - d 1971 Collaroy, NSW) Duncan was the youngest of eleven children. He married Edith McCormack on 5 October 1926 in Glasgow. Edith was the daughter of Samuel James McCormack and Catherine Matilda ___. Duncan and Edith arrived in Australia in late 1926 or early 1927. Duncan worked as a barman. They had three children: i. EDITH CRERAR (b 1927 Royal Hospital for Women, Paddington, NSW - alive 2003) = Norman IRELAND (b 1923 Mullumbimby - d 2001 Manly Waters Hospital, Manley, NSW) Norman was the son of Oswald Ireland and Shirley Torrens. Edith and Norman had 5 children, none of whom were married as at 2003: I. Robert Alan Ireland (b 1949 Stanmore, Sydney, St. George Hospital for Women) II. Ralph Glen Ireland (b 1951 Stanmore, Sydney, St. George Hospital for Women) III. John James Ireland (b 1953 Dennistone, Sydney, Rydfe Private Hospital) IV. Sandra Kay Ireland (b 1956 Dennistone, Sydney, Rydfe Private Hospital) V. James Norman Ireland (b 1961 Dennistone, Sydney, Rydfe Private Hospital) ii. GLEN MCLEAN CRERAR (b 1930 Royal Hospital for Women, Paddington, NSW -d 12 July 1990 Killarney Heights, Sydney, NSW) = Irene Joyce HILLS (b 1932) Irene was the daughter of Edwin Albert Hills and Mary Ellen Renton. In 1993, 1996 his estate owned property in Killarney Heights, NSW [obit. 14 July 1990]. They had five children: I. LYNETTE ANNE CRERAR (b 1954 North Shore Hospital, St. Leonards, NSW) = Keith Gordon Chapple (b 1953) They married 1976 in French's Forest, NSW. They have three children: A. Andrew Chapple (b 1978 Manly, NSW) B. Rebecca Chapple (b 1980 Manly, NSW) C. Peter Chapple (b 1985 Manly, NSW) II. ALAN DUNCAN CRERAR (b 1956 North Suburbs, Sydney, NSW) = Janet Johnson (b 1961 Beacon Hill, NSW) They married Beacon Hill, NSW. In 1993 ALAN D. CRERAR, Harbord, NSW. They have three children: A. ADAM CRERAR (b 1991) B. RACHEL CRERAR (b 1992) C. LAURA CRERAR (b 1995) III. RODNEY GLEN CRERAR (b 1958 North Suburbs, Sydney, NSW) = Suellen INGERSOLE (b 1961) They married Beacon Hill, NSW in 1991. In 1993 RODNEY G. CRERAR, Dee Why, NSW. They have three children: A. THOMAS GLEN CRERAR (b 1992) B. EMMA JANE CRERAR (b 1994) C. BEN CRERAR (b 1996) IV. JOHN MCLEAN CRERAR (b 1962) = Mary MCFADDEN (b 1968) They married Killara, NSW 1990. They have two children: A. MATTHEW GLEN CRERAR (b 1991) B. HANNAH CRERAR (b 1994) V. GRAHAM ROGER CRERAR (b 1970 - d 30 January 1975) iii. HELEN MCLEAN CRERAR (b 1932 St. Leonards, NSW) = Alan John THOMSON (b 1931 Carlton, NSW) Alan was the son of Peter Hastie Thomson and Louisa Clarice Squires. Alan and Helen married in 1954 in Crowsnest, NSW. I. Ronald McLean Thomson (b 1956 Ryde, NSW) = Sara Jones They married 1956 in Horsham, England. II. Gregory Alan Thomson (b 1958 Ryde, NSW) = Belinda Page They married 1988 in Manly, NSW> They have four children: Maxwell James (b 1992 St. Leonards, NSW); Bridget Grace (b 1994 St. Leonards, NSW); Georgina Rose (b 1996 St. Leonards, NSW); Matthew Gregory (b 1998 St. Leonards, NSW). III. Janette Helen (b 1962) = John Michael Syme They married 1986 in Frenchs Forest, NSW. They have two children: Meggan Louise (b 1986 St. Leonards, NSW); Lisa Helen (b 1988 Gosford, NSW). 3. 'Kate' CATHERINE CRERAR (b. 5 Jan 1866 Dunblane #2, Kilmadock) [census] = Donald MCARTHUR They married 1890 Bonhill [ISC493-90]. 4. FRANCIS CRERAR (b. 15 Aug 1867 Dunblane #55, Kilmadock - 1867 - d 1894 age 27 Service Returns (Boer War??) 052-AF-115) [census] (n.b. contemporaneous Francis Crerar in Kinning Park) 5. ISABELLA CRERAR (b. 31 May 1869 Dunblane #40- d before 1881?) 6. JANET CRERAR (bc 1870 -alive 1891) 6. ISABELLA CRERAR (b. 13 Feb 1872 Dunblane 348-12 - d 1872 Dunblane 348-47) 7. 'Annie' ANN CRERAR (b. 2 Feb 1874 Port Of Monteith, Perth #388-2 -alive 1891) [census] 8. PETER CRERAR (bc 1878 St. Ninian's, Stirling -alive 1891) [census] 9. WILLIAM CRERAR (bc 1880 St. Ninian's, Stirling-alive 1891) [census] (William Stevenson Crerar?) D. JANET CRERAR (b. 1843 Killin - d after 31 Dec 1889) = William GALBRAITH of Kilmadock, Perth In 1861 Janet lived with her aunt Janet Crerar (b.1812 Kenmore), a Lodging House Keeper in Doune [Census]. Also living with her were Peter Crerar (Janet's nephew) (bc 1839), a farm labourer, and Agnes Crerar (Janet's niece) (bc 1846), a domestic servant. In 1861 Janet was a factory worker. They married 28 Dec 1866 [SRO 362-24] in Kilmadock: "On 28th December at Doune (8 3/4 miles NW of Stirling; in Kilmadock) after banns according to the forms of the Free Church of Scotland, William Galbraith, aged 21, bachelor, hawker, Thornhill, Kincardine and Janet Crerar, aged 23, spinster, domestic servant, Doune." William Galbraith was the son of John Galbraith, a china merchant, and Catherine Gilchrist. Janet and William had four children: 1. John Galbraith (b.23 Oct 1867 Kincardine) 2. Catherine Galbraith (b.5 February 1869 Kincardine) 3. Mary Galbraith (b.22 May 1871 Kincardine) = Walter Jennie They married on 31 December 1889 4. Janet Anne Galbraith (15 Sept 1872 Kincardine) E. JOHN CRERAR (bc 1843 Milton, Perth? 1845 Doune? - d 3 May 1886 Kilmadock) = 1. Catherine STEWART (b 16 December 1842 Aberfoyle - d before 1901); 2. 'Maggie' Margaret MCLAREN (bc 1843 Callander - alive 1901) Duncan Crerar (bc 1851 Kilmadock): scholar in 1861, living in Doune with John Crerar (bc 1844 Killin), a shoemaker [Census] They married 16 August 1867 at 107 Albert Place, Stirling [Jacobina's birth certificate]. John was a journeyman baker, son of Donald Crerar, journeyman weaver, and Catherine McIntyre, of Doune. Both of his parents had passed away before his marriage. Catherine was a domestic servant, the daughter of David Stewart of Laborne(?), and Margaret Keir [SRO 490-76] [some of the information about their children courtesy of Catherine Law]. At the time of his daughter Jacobina's birth in 1881, to his death, he was a grocer's porter. John appears to have married a second wife, Maggie, who was listed as the stepmother of his daughters in the 1901 census. There is a record for Catherine Crerar (bc 1845 - d 1883 age 38 Kilmadock 362-8). John died on 3 May 1886 at 8:35 am at Deanston, Kilmadock at age 42 [#19]. His death records states that he was a carter, who had been married to (1) Catherine Stewart; (2) Margaret McLaren. His parents were Donald Crerar, Labourer, and Catherine McIntyre, both deceased. Her died of Phthisis, as cert. by J. P. McIntyre, M.D. & C.M. Janet Galbraith his Sister was Present. Their children: 1. CATHERINE CRERAR (bc 1868 Kilmadock #362-7) 2. MARY CRERAR (b. 24 Feb 1870 Kilmadock) = John MCARTHUR a. Euphemia McArthur b. _________McArthur c. Janet Paterson McArthur d. John McArthur e. Donald McArthur f. Peter McArthur g. Annie McArthur h. William McArthur i. Mary McArthur j. James McArthur 3. DONALD CRERAR (b. 22 May 1872 Stirling, Stirling 490-183 - d.) = 1. Jemima COWAN (bc 1872 Govan) Donald was born on 38 Baker Street, Stirling. They married 11 Sept. 1896 at 45 Napierston, Bonhill [SRO493-91]. Jemima was the daughter of John Cowan and Elizabeth Hardman. Donald was the son of John Crerar and Catherine Stewart. In 1901 Donald, a Turkey Red Dyer (??) (28, b. Stirling), Jemima (28, b. Govan), John H. (4, b. Bonhill), Elizabeth H. (2, b. Bonhill), and Donald S. (3 mo., b. Bonhill) lived at 311 Main Street, a small house with one windowed room [Census]. a. JOHN HERDMAN CRERAR (bc 1896 Bonhill 493-338) b. ELIZABETH HERDM___ CRERAR (b 1899 Bonhill ISC) c. DONALD STEWART CRERAR (b 1900 Bonhill ISC) d. JEMIMA COWAN CRERAR (bc 1912 - d 1924 Anderston, Lanark, 12y ISC644/11 0797) 4. WILLIAM CRERAR (b. 28 Apr 1874 Stirling, Stirling 490-171) 5. JANET CRERAR (bc 1877, Stirling) 6. ANNIE CRERAR (bc 1879, Stirling) In 1901 she was a turkey red dyer living in Bonhill [Census]. She lived with her sister Jacobina and her stepmother Maggie, who was likely formerly married to a Mr. Eusdon (?). In 1901 Maggie, a widowed annuitant (58, b. Callander, spoke Gaelic and English), her son Ralph Eusdon (33, b. Ruskie, Perthshire), stepdaughters Annie, a turkey red dyer (?) (22, b. Stirling), and Jacobina, a turkey red dyer (?) (18, b. Stirling), and granddaughter Margaret (3 weeks, b. Jamestown, Dunbartonshire) lived at 31 Napierston Terrace, Bonhill) [Census]. 7. JACOBINA STEWART CRERAR (b 29 April 1881, Stirling - d 1946 Bonhill, Dumbarton, 65y, ISC493/0131) = William ROSS (b 23 June 1877 Glasgow - d. 19 March 1946 Glasgow)) Jacobina was born at 5:30 am at 72 Port Street, Stirling. Her parents were listed as John Crerar, grocer's porter, and Catherine Stewart. In 1901 she was a turkey red dyer living in Bonhill [Census]. They married 1 April 1907 at 31 Napierston Terrace, Jamestown, Dumbarton. Jacobina was the daughter of John Crerar, Grocer's port (deceased) and Catherine Stewart, both deceased. William was the son of Thomas Ross (b 1853), a press printer, and Annie Graham (b 1858)[#48]. William and Jacobina were both printfield hands. They lived at 60 Levenbank Terrace, Jamestown, Dumbarton from 1909 to 1946. William died of apoplexy at the Royal Infirmary in Glasgow. Jacobina died 30 December 1946 at 60 Levenbank Terrace, Jamestown, Dumbarton of a cerebral hemorrhage and cardiac failure [photo of Jacobina and William] [researched by Cathy Law: LAWFAMILY4@tinyworld.co.uk]. a. Annie Adamson Graham ROSS (b 24 Jan 1909 Bonhill - alive 2003) = Herbert Allan LAW They married 26 August 1929 in Midland, Ontario. b. Rena ROSS c. John ROSS d. Thomas ROSS F. 'Annie' ANN CRERAR (bc 1846 - alive 1855) G. DANIEL CRERAR (d. 1 yr) H. DUNCAN CRERAR (bc 1853 Doune -d. 24 July 1922 Falkirk, 70y, ISC 70479-0377) = Agnes MCARTHUR (bc 1854 Kingston, Lanark -d. 1922 Falkirk, 69y ISC479/0452) Duncan Crerar (bc 1851 Kilmadock): scholar in 1861, living in Doune with John Crerar (bc 1844 Killin), a shoemaker [Census] Their marriage was recorded 27 Aug 1875 Middle Or New Parish, Greenock East, Renfrew [564-2-96]. In 1891 Duncan (38), Agnes (37), Maggie (12), Duncan (10), Catherine (8), Agnes (1) lived in Falkirk Burgh [Census]. In 1901 Duncan, a night watchman (49, b. Doune), Agnes (47, b. Kingston, Lanark), Maggie, an enameller (22, b. Kingston, Lanark), Duncan, a molder (20, b. Kingston, Lanark), Catherine, an enameller (18, b. Kingston, Lanark), Agnes, a student (11), Donald, a student (9, b. Falkirk), Robert, a student (7, b. Falkirk) lived in Falkirk Burgh [Census]. His death record states that he was the son of Donald Crerar and Catherine McIntyre, both deceased. He was a night watchman, married to Agnes McArthur. His son Duncan Crerar reported his death. His final address was Edna (?) Buildings, Falkirk. 1. 'Maggie' MARGARET CAMERON CRERAR (bc 1879 - d 1912 Falkirk, 33y, ISC479-0350) 2. DUNCAN CRERAR (bc 1881 -alive 1922) 3. CATHERINE CRERAR (bc 1883 -alive 1901) 4. WILLIAM CRERAR (b.1887 Falkirk - d. 1890 Falkirk 479-1-365) 5. AGNES CRERAR (b. 1889 Falkirk Burgh 479-1-381 -alive 1901) 6. DONALD CRERAR (bc 1892 Falkirk -alive 1901) 7. ROBERT CRERAR (bc 1894 Falkirk -alive 1901) **AGNES MCARTHUR CRERAR (b 1918 - d 1918 Falkirk, 0y ISC479/0551] **1947 AGNES MCARTHUR CRERAR = ______ GARDNER in Falkirk [IGI 295] ** Isabella Stevenson Sinclair = John Scott ROBSON (b.29 Dec 1886, Moffat - d 1954, Annan). They married 30 August 1922. Their first two daughters: Fiona Janet Crerar ROBSON (b 26 Dec 1925) = 25/6/1947 James Chalmers. 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