Just received this today with a list of other Canadian obits, there isn't any more data on the name, just this small bit. At the end of the Post was a link to some obits online which I haven't checked out. The empty brackets hold the letters [ON] in the other obits in the Post. Have to think it stands for Ontario. Meg Greenwood / Oklahoma USA ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ===================================================================== A result of your requested PML search. CRERAR ===================================================================== Source: CAN-ONT-OBITS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Windsor Star May 13, 2006 Special thanks to John Brillinger! CRERAR, Audrie Margaret "Pat" ( ); 94; ON; Windsor Star; 2006-5-13*JB Want to find the obit online? http://www.ontarioobits.com/publications.htm ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Have stumbled across a Website with part of a family tree dedicated to CRERARs. Its searchable and has a pretty good amount of information ! He must have corresponded with David CRERAR in Canada, as he is thanked for his assistance. We may already have the names covered in other posts, but its certainly worth looking through....MegG URL of Ian Glendinning's homepage : http://www.glendinning.name/ URL of CRERAR page : http://www.glendinning.name/ancestry/crerfam/index.htm

The following post came to me today, its a Message Board post that hit the SWORD-L list because it was linked. Any replies to Aislynn will have to be through the link in the Post. Send her the URL to our List so she could subscribe or at least check the Archives : http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/c/crerar.html MegG ===================================================================== A result of your requested PML search. To refine or cancel this search, please visit http://pml.rootsweb.com/ ===================================================================== Source: SWORD-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Sword/Crerar/Crairer This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Sword/Crerar/Crairer Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/AFRBAIB/147 Message Board Post: I'm looking for some information on Isabel (Isabelle) Sword who married James Crerar (Crairer) on December 10th/11th 1786 in Methven, Perth, Scotland. I have an unconfirmed list of children (provided by a distant Crerar relative) William Crerar (chr. 27 Sep 1789) Andrew Crerar (chr. 1 Jul 1792) Robert Crerar (chr. 25 Mar 1794) Robert Crerar (chr. 9 Mar 1796) David Crerar (chr. 16 Feb 1800) - David is who my family is decended through.. he married Jane/Jean Young. Any information would be wonderful!! Thanks. Aislynn Thompson

Have come across a CRERAR marraige while doing a lookup for someone. Here are the details - its hard to read, handwriting is just scratchy [could be the pen]. MegG in OK 1867 Marriages, Stirling, Stirlingshire #76 - Aug 16 at #7 Al??rt Place, Stirling, Free Church of Scotland. John CRERAR, Baker Journeyman, bachelor aged 22y residing Doune, Perthshire, son of Donald CRERAR, Weaver Journeyman decd and Catherine CRERAR ms McINTYRE decd. Catherine STEWART, Domestic Svt, spinster, 21y residing Milton? [or Mitlow?], Aberfoyle, daughter of David STEWART, reputed father, Labourer & Margaret KEIN [or KEIR, definite dotted i in name]. Signed Alexander LEITH, Minister Free South Church, Stirling. Witnesses were Christina KERR and Duncan CRERAR. Registered Aug 19 at Stirling, Adam Steel, Registrar. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Hello List ! Meg Greenwood here, the Administrator [List Lassie] for this Rootsweb Surname Mailing List. Rootsweb recently changed its filtering process to cause fewer spam messages to be sent to Admins. We either manually deleted them, or waited for them to time out of the 'Blocked Mail' box for this List. The change caused a few glitches, we were asked to check our Lists for Blocked Messages that might not be spam, but legitimate messages. This List had no problem with lost or blocked messages. Just to keep you current with the status of this List, here is some information about it and how to get information on other Lists. Anyone can check the Archives of any Rootsweb List without subscribing, its how many of us find others seeking the same families. This List doesn't have much mail to contend with, if you should need to unsub for awhile, don't forget that you can always read all the Posts since this List began by going to its homepage below and Browsing the Archives. However, to Post a message, you will need to be subscribed in either List mode [one message at a time] or Digest mode [small packet of messages at once]. You can subscribe to List and Digest [both], or select either one. Currently there are 3 subscribers in List mode, 2 in Digest mode. CRERAR homepage for finding Archives, subbing and unsubbing : http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/c/crerar.html ALL Rootsweb Lists : http://lists.rootsweb.com/ Helpdesk - notices for Rootsweb problems [not receiving posts, etc] http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/ My eMail address for questions or problems : < scotquester@bartnet.net > Post your names of interest if you haven't done so in awhile. Make sure the subject line of your Post shows a CRERAR name. My CRERAR interest is in Edinburgh, Scotland where James Smith CRERAR married Rachel COOTE in 1934, a current daughter lives in England with the surname COLLARD. Have not been able to make contact yet. Meg G - List Lassie

While looking in Index films at the FHC today, I found this for MUIR in 1930 in Scotland. Index hits only, no further information. The mother's maiden name was listed in the Indexes beginning 1929, helps tremendously when trying to identify children of a marraige. MegG MUIR, Alexander Crerar, mother's ms CRERAR, Bathgate #84 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

A PML foward received today was a brief report of 2 separate accidents at a coal mine, there were injuries, but none grave in nature. There was a mention of a Dr CRERAR who attended one of the injured men. No further comments on the good Dr., just the mention of his prompt actions. As it was 1882, he might be found in the 1881 Census living nearby. To read the complete Post, go to the Cumberland Mailing List and Browse for today's posts or Search for the word CRERAR - the post probably won't show up until tomorrow though, it takes a bit for them to appear in the Archives. You might further search the Archives [contains all the Posts since the inception of this List] for earlier mentions of his name. MegG http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/ENG/CUMBERLAND.html ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On Fri, 1 Jul 2005 07:00:01 -0600, original message : Source: CUMBERLAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: The Maryport Advertiser and Weekly News, 25 March, 1882 : Accident- JOHNSTON,WREN,McGEE > <snip> Dr CRERAR was sent for and promptly attended him. We are glad to state that he is progressing favourably. >

Hi and thank you for all the wonderful Crerar information! In addition, by providing me with George's parents' names, it gives me a direction to go in to find out where the D'All came from. Thank you again Helen Searching for D'ALL & STOCKWOOD anywhere, anytime --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.809 / Virus Database: 551 - Release Date: 12/9/2004

Here is the family: I. DONALD CRERAR (bc 1846 - d 1896 St.Clement, Dundee 282-3-156) = Ann MCDONALD (bc 1847) They married 11 August 1865 at King Place, Perth. Donald was the 20-year-old tailor son of Donald Crerar, labourer, deceased, and Jane Crerar (née Crerar). At the time of his wedding he lived at 10 Foundry Lane, Perth). Ann was a 19-year-old factory worker, the daughter of James MacDonald, labourer, and Grace Robertson, of South Street. [SRO 387-138]. In 1891 they lived in St.Clement, Dundee: Donald (45), Ann (44), Annie (18), Jemima (12), Donald (9), William (6), and George (1). In 1901 they lived in St.Clement, Dundee: Ann (54, widow), Jemima (22, a jute factory worker), Donald (19, a worker in a jute factory), William J. (16, a mechanic), and George (11, a student). A. GRACE CRERAR (b.4 Sep 1865 Perth 387-664- d 1871, age 6 St. Mary, Dundee 282-2-711) B. JANE CRERAR (b. 2 June 1867 Perth #379 - d 1871, age 5 St. Mary, Dundee 282-2-712) C. ISABELLA BLACK CRERAR (b. 20 June 1869 Perth #441; St. Mary, Dundee #453-d. 1889 St.Clement, Dundee 282-3-285) D. ANN CRERAR (b. 2 Nov 1872 St. Mary, Dundee, Angus 282-2-829) not living at home 1891, 1901 [census]. E. JEMIMA FINDLAY CRERAR (b. 12 Apr 1878 St Peter, Dundee 282-1-330 - d 1954 Dundee West #600) = William MACDOUGALL In 1901 she lived at home and was a jute factory worker. On 9 Oct 1903 she married William at St. Clement, Dundee, Angus [IGI]. F. DONALD CRERAR (bc 1882 - d 23 Feb 1948, 67yrs) In 1901 he lived at home and was a jute factory worker. He is buried Balgay Cemetery. G. WILLIAM JAMES CRERAR (b.1884 St.Clement, Dundee 282-3-427- d August 1953 Dundee) In 1901 he lived at home, and worked as a mechanic. William was a well-known decorator and painter in Dundee, the second-eldest son of Donald Crerar of Dundee. He carried on business at 5 Rosefield Street for over thirty years and retired around 1938. He was active in local societies, serving as organist for the Masonic Lodge No.967. He was also a member of the Royal Engineers (Submarine Miners). At the time of his death he lived at 22 Watson Street. He also lived at 20 Black Street (1910, 1916) and 23 Dundee Street (1926, 1930, 1936, 1941) [obit. 7 Aug 1953 Dundee newspaper] I. GEORGE DALL CRERAR (b.1890 St. Clement, Dundee 282-3-204 -d June 1968, 78 yrs.) = 1. Elizabeth Black STEVENSON (bc 1892 - d 1942 Lochee, Dundee, 50y ISC282/04 0050); 2. Annie Waddell BROOKS (previously Farr) (b.8 Feb. 1893 Dundee, Forfar) George was a butcher, the son of Donald Crerar, tailor, and Ann McDonald. In 1936 and 1941 he worked at William Morrison, and from 1950 worked at 90 Hawkhill. From 1936 to 1970 he lived at 138 Lochee Road, Dundee. George and Elizabeth married 1920 in St. Mary & St. Peter Parish, Dundee [ISC 282/010216] George and Annie married 5 October 1955 [IGI581]. At the time, George was retired and living at 138 Locheeload, Dundee. Annie lived at 31 Reform Street, Dundee. She was the daughter of James Brooks, flax dresser, deceased, and Isabella Reid McLean, and was the widow of a man named Farr [researched by Irene Brown Dupree of Oshawa]. They are buried Balgay Cemetery. ----- Original Message ----- From: <CRERAR-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <CRERAR-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2004 11:00 AM Subject: CRERAR-D Digest V04 #16

Hi, I am new to the list and trying to find the connection between a CRERAR family and my D'ALL family, my main line of research. Recently, I was given the following information: "While there I was at Balgay Cemetery checking out some family MIs. I have a photo of a grave marker for my Great Aunt, Annie FARR nee BROOKS. She is buried with her last husband who was a George D'ALL CRERAR. I am now wondering if you can fit him into your genealogy. He died June 1968, aged 78 yrs. On the stone is also Donald CRERAR who died 23 Feb 1948 Aged 67 yrs. There is no relationship mentioned." The marriage appears in an LDS Ancestral file, but George's parents are not shown. Is anyone out there researching these particular CRERARs who may be able to point me in the D'ALL connection direction? Thank you Helen in Montreal Searching for D'ALL & STOCKWOOD anywhere, anytime --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.809 / Virus Database: 551 - Release Date: 12/9/2004

While doing a SINCLAIR lookup for a friend in the Muthill OPR film at the local LDS church Family History Center, I came across 2 CRERAR births : 1805 Births, March 3 - Baptized Ann, Daughter of James CRERAR & Christian McALLUM att [sic] Borsland who was born 20th Feb'y last. 1805 Births - November 17 - Baptized James, Son of Alexander CRERAR & Jean KEMP in Muthill who was born the 13th ditto [Nov]. Can send a scan if needed, the page is dark, but readable. MegG

And the Kilmodck family: PETER CRERAR = Christian MCLAREN Their son: I. DONALD CRERAR (bc 1813 Ballemore, Kenmore - d 12 October 1855 Doune) = Catherine MCINTYRE (d.before 1855) Donald was a weaver of Doune. On his son John's death certificate he was referred to as a labourer. Donald's death was recorded: 1855 Death Kilmadock #57 - Donald CRERAR, Labourer, 42y born Balmore, parish of Kenmore, lived Kilmadock 9 years. Parents were Peter CRERAR, Weaver & Christian McLAREN. Married Catherine CRERAR ms McINTYRE decd. Children were Christina, 21. Anne, decd at 2y. Peter, 15; Janet, 14; John, 12. Annie, 9. Daniel decd at 1y. Duncan 5y. Died Oct 12, 1855 2pm at Doune of Conica Pictonum, 5 days duration. Cert'd Thomas Inmeison or Jameison, Surgeon, Doune who last saw decd 12 Oct. Buried Doune Churchyard, certd Daniel MacNiven, Undertaker, Doune. Informant was Janet Crerar, her markr [X]. Reg'd Oct 12 at Doune, John Simpson Reg'r. Neither his marriage nor the birth of his daughter is listed in the IGI. This branch of the family is being researched by Mr. Norm Chandler, (7 Monterey Court, Kardinya, Western Australia) who was kind enough to send this information. A. CHRISTINA CRERAR (bc 1834 - alive 1855) B. ANNE CRERAR (died at age 2) C. PETER CRERAR (bc 1840 -alive 1901) = Isabella STEVENSON (bc 1837 -alive 1901) Their marriage was recorded 5 Sep 1862 Kilmadock. In 1881 the family resided at 18 Milton Terrace, Bonhill, Dumbarton [census]. In 1891 Peter (51), Isabella (54), Janet (21), Ann (17), Peter (12), and William (10) lived in Bonhill [Census]. In 1901 Peter (62) and Isa (64) lived at Port of Mentieth [Census]. In 1916 they lived at 7 Willowbank Crescent, Glasgow [son Peter's death record]. 1. CHRISTINA CRERAR (b. 9 Dec 1862, Kilmadock - d. 1887, age 24, Bonhill 493-161) [census] 2. DANIEL/ DONALD CRERAR (b. 25 Aug 1864 Kilmadock 362-51 -alive 1891) [census] = Helen Glen___ MCLEAN (d 1938 Kelvingrove, 78y, ISC644/09 0577 - alive 1891) Donald and Helen McLean married June 1887 Bonhill [ISC]. Helen Glen McLean was the daughter of Duncan McLean and Helen Glen. In 1891 Helen Crerar (bc 1831 -alive 1891), DONALD CRERAR (bc 1865 -alive 1891), PETER CRERAR (bc 1888 -alive 1891), HELEN CRERAR (bc 1889 -alive 1891), ISABELLA CRERAR (bc 1891 -alive 1891) lived together in St. Rollox, Glasgow [Census]. Donald and Edith had eleven children [Shirley Gaskill: salisbury@ihug.com.au]: a. PETER CRERAR (b. 1888 Glasgow -d. 21 August 1916, Somme, WWI) Peter was a Sergeant in the "B" Company, 5th Battalion of the Cameronian (Scottish Rifles) (6316) He was killed in the First World War at the age of 28 [CWGC, Edinburgh Castle Book of Fame]. He is buried at Thistle Dump Cemetery, High Wood, Longueval [grave: A. 27]. Longueval is a village in the Department of the Somme, 11 kilometres east of Albert. Thistle Dump Cemetery was begun in August 1916, and used as a front-line cemetery until February 1917; and the Germans buried five of their dead in it in March and April, 1918. It was increased after the Armistice by the concentration of 56 graves from the Somme battlefields. There are now nearly 200 1914-1918 war casualties buried in this site. Of these, nearly 60 are unidentified, with special memorials are erected to them. b. HELEN GLEN CRERAR (b. 1889 Kelvin, Glasgow 644-9-585) c. ISABELLA STEVENSON CRERAR (b.1890 Renton 494-2-145) d. ___________ CRERAR e. MAGGIE GLEN CRERAR (b. 1892 St. Rollox, Glasgow 644-6-1098) f. ___________ CRERAR g. ___________ CRERAR h. ___________ CRERAR i. ___________ CRERAR j. MARY MCLEAN CRERAR (b. 1895 Anderston, Glasgow 644-10-1317) k. DUNCAN MCLEAN CRERAR (b. 1897 Kelvin, Glasgow 644-3-2470 - d 1980 or 1981 Mona Vale Hospital, NSW) = Edith Amelia MCCORMACK (b 1899 Glasgow - d 1971 Collaroy, NSW) Duncan was the youngest of eleven children. He married Edith McCormack on 5 October 1926 in Glasgow. Edith was the daughter of Samuel James McCormack and Catherine Matilda ___. Duncan and Edith arrived in Australia in late 1926 or early 1927. Duncan worked as a barman. They had three children: i. EDITH CRERAR (b 1927 Royal Hospital for Women, Paddington, NSW - alive 2003) = Norman IRELAND (b 1923 Mullumbimby - d 2001 Manly Waters Hospital, Manley, NSW) Norman was the son of Oswald Ireland and Shirley Torrens. Edith and Norman had 5 children, none of whom were married as at 2003: I. Robert Alan Ireland (b 1949 Stanmore, Sydney, St. George Hospital for Women) II. Ralph Glen Ireland (b 1951 Stanmore, Sydney, St. George Hospital for Women) III. John James Ireland (b 1953 Dennistone, Sydney, Rydfe Private Hospital) IV. Sandra Kay Ireland (b 1956 Dennistone, Sydney, Rydfe Private Hospital) V. James Norman Ireland (b 1961 Dennistone, Sydney, Rydfe Private Hospital) ii. GLEN MCLEAN CRERAR (b 1930 Royal Hospital for Women, Paddington, NSW -d 12 July 1990 Killarney Heights, Sydney, NSW) = Irene Joyce HILLS (b 1932) Irene was the daughter of Edwin Albert Hills and Mary Ellen Renton. In 1993, 1996 his estate owned property in Killarney Heights, NSW [obit. 14 July 1990]. They had five children: I. LYNETTE ANNE CRERAR (b 1954 North Shore Hospital, St. Leonards, NSW) = Keith Gordon Chapple (b 1953) They married 1976 in French's Forest, NSW. They have three children: A. Andrew Chapple (b 1978 Manly, NSW) B. Rebecca Chapple (b 1980 Manly, NSW) C. Peter Chapple (b 1985 Manly, NSW) II. ALAN DUNCAN CRERAR (b 1956 North Suburbs, Sydney, NSW) = Janet Johnson (b 1961 Beacon Hill, NSW) They married Beacon Hill, NSW. In 1993 ALAN D. CRERAR, Harbord, NSW. They have three children: A. ADAM CRERAR (b 1991) B. RACHEL CRERAR (b 1992) C. LAURA CRERAR (b 1995) III. RODNEY GLEN CRERAR (b 1958 North Suburbs, Sydney, NSW) = Suellen INGERSOLE (b 1961) They married Beacon Hill, NSW in 1991. In 1993 RODNEY G. CRERAR, Dee Why, NSW. They have three children: A. THOMAS GLEN CRERAR (b 1992) B. EMMA JANE CRERAR (b 1994) C. BEN CRERAR (b 1996) IV. JOHN MCLEAN CRERAR (b 1962) = Mary MCFADDEN (b 1968) They married Killara, NSW 1990. They have two children: A. MATTHEW GLEN CRERAR (b 1991) B. HANNAH CRERAR (b 1994) V. GRAHAM ROGER CRERAR (b 1970 - d 30 January 1975) iii. HELEN MCLEAN CRERAR (b 1932 St. Leonards, NSW) = Alan John THOMSON (b 1931 Carlton, NSW) Alan was the son of Peter Hastie Thomson and Louisa Clarice Squires. Alan and Helen married in 1954 in Crowsnest, NSW. I. Ronald McLean Thomson (b 1956 Ryde, NSW) = Sara Jones They married 1956 in Horsham, England. II. Gregory Alan Thomson (b 1958 Ryde, NSW) = Belinda Page They married 1988 in Manly, NSW> They have four children: Maxwell James (b 1992 St. Leonards, NSW); Bridget Grace (b 1994 St. Leonards, NSW); Georgina Rose (b 1996 St. Leonards, NSW); Matthew Gregory (b 1998 St. Leonards, NSW). III. Janette Helen (b 1962) = John Michael Syme They married 1986 in Frenchs Forest, NSW. They have two children: Meggan Louise (b 1986 St. Leonards, NSW); Lisa Helen (b 1988 Gosford, NSW). 3. 'Kate' CATHERINE CRERAR (b. 5 Jan 1866 Dunblane #2, Kilmadock) [census] = Donald MCARTHUR They married 1890 Bonhill [ISC493-90]. 4. FRANCIS CRERAR (b. 15 Aug 1867 Dunblane #55, Kilmadock - 1867 - d 1894 age 27 Service Returns (Boer War??) 052-AF-115) [census] (n.b. contemporaneous Francis Crerar in Kinning Park) 5. ISABELLA CRERAR (b. 31 May 1869 Dunblane #40- d before 1881?) 6. JANET CRERAR (bc 1870 -alive 1891) 6. ISABELLA CRERAR (b. 13 Feb 1872 Dunblane 348-12 - d 1872 Dunblane 348-47) 7. 'Annie' ANN CRERAR (b. 2 Feb 1874 Port Of Monteith, Perth #388-2 -alive 1891) [census] 8. PETER CRERAR (bc 1878 St. Ninian's, Stirling -alive 1891) [census] 9. WILLIAM CRERAR (bc 1880 St. Ninian's, Stirling-alive 1891) [census] (William Stevenson Crerar?) D. JANET CRERAR (b. 1843 Killin - d after 31 Dec 1889) = William GALBRAITH of Kilmadock, Perth In 1861 Janet lived with her aunt Janet Crerar (b.1812 Kenmore), a Lodging House Keeper in Doune [Census]. Also living with her were Peter Crerar (Janet's nephew) (bc 1839), a farm labourer, and Agnes Crerar (Janet's niece) (bc 1846), a domestic servant. In 1861 Janet was a factory worker. They married 28 Dec 1866 [SRO 362-24] in Kilmadock: "On 28th December at Doune (8 3/4 miles NW of Stirling; in Kilmadock) after banns according to the forms of the Free Church of Scotland, William Galbraith, aged 21, bachelor, hawker, Thornhill, Kincardine and Janet Crerar, aged 23, spinster, domestic servant, Doune." William Galbraith was the son of John Galbraith, a china merchant, and Catherine Gilchrist. Janet and William had four children: 1. John Galbraith (b.23 Oct 1867 Kincardine) 2. Catherine Galbraith (b.5 February 1869 Kincardine) 3. Mary Galbraith (b.22 May 1871 Kincardine) = Walter Jennie They married on 31 December 1889 4. Janet Anne Galbraith (15 Sept 1872 Kincardine) E. JOHN CRERAR (bc 1843 Milton, Perth? 1845 Doune? - d 3 May 1886 Kilmadock) = 1. Catherine STEWART (b 16 December 1842 Aberfoyle - d before 1901); 2. 'Maggie' Margaret MCLAREN (bc 1843 Callander - alive 1901) Duncan Crerar (bc 1851 Kilmadock): scholar in 1861, living in Doune with John Crerar (bc 1844 Killin), a shoemaker [Census] They married 16 August 1867 at 107 Albert Place, Stirling [Jacobina's birth certificate]. John was a journeyman baker, son of Donald Crerar, journeyman weaver, and Catherine McIntyre, of Doune. Both of his parents had passed away before his marriage. Catherine was a domestic servant, the daughter of David Stewart of Laborne(?), and Margaret Keir [SRO 490-76] [some of the information about their children courtesy of Catherine Law]. At the time of his daughter Jacobina's birth in 1881, to his death, he was a grocer's porter. John appears to have married a second wife, Maggie, who was listed as the stepmother of his daughters in the 1901 census. There is a record for Catherine Crerar (bc 1845 - d 1883 age 38 Kilmadock 362-8). John died on 3 May 1886 at 8:35 am at Deanston, Kilmadock at age 42 [#19]. His death records states that he was a carter, who had been married to (1) Catherine Stewart; (2) Margaret McLaren. His parents were Donald Crerar, Labourer, and Catherine McIntyre, both deceased. Her died of Phthisis, as cert. by J. P. McIntyre, M.D. & C.M. Janet Galbraith his Sister was Present. Their children: 1. CATHERINE CRERAR (bc 1868 Kilmadock #362-7) 2. MARY CRERAR (b. 24 Feb 1870 Kilmadock) = John MCARTHUR a. Euphemia McArthur b. _________McArthur c. Janet Paterson McArthur d. John McArthur e. Donald McArthur f. Peter McArthur g. Annie McArthur h. William McArthur i. Mary McArthur j. James McArthur 3. DONALD CRERAR (b. 22 May 1872 Stirling, Stirling 490-183 - d.) = 1. Jemima COWAN (bc 1872 Govan) Donald was born on 38 Baker Street, Stirling. They married 11 Sept. 1896 at 45 Napierston, Bonhill [SRO493-91]. Jemima was the daughter of John Cowan and Elizabeth Hardman. Donald was the son of John Crerar and Catherine Stewart. In 1901 Donald, a Turkey Red Dyer (??) (28, b. Stirling), Jemima (28, b. Govan), John H. (4, b. Bonhill), Elizabeth H. (2, b. Bonhill), and Donald S. (3 mo., b. Bonhill) lived at 311 Main Street, a small house with one windowed room [Census]. a. JOHN HERDMAN CRERAR (bc 1896 Bonhill 493-338) b. ELIZABETH HERDM___ CRERAR (b 1899 Bonhill ISC) c. DONALD STEWART CRERAR (b 1900 Bonhill ISC) d. JEMIMA COWAN CRERAR (bc 1912 - d 1924 Anderston, Lanark, 12y ISC644/11 0797) 4. WILLIAM CRERAR (b. 28 Apr 1874 Stirling, Stirling 490-171) 5. JANET CRERAR (bc 1877, Stirling) 6. ANNIE CRERAR (bc 1879, Stirling) In 1901 she was a turkey red dyer living in Bonhill [Census]. She lived with her sister Jacobina and her stepmother Maggie, who was likely formerly married to a Mr. Eusdon (?). In 1901 Maggie, a widowed annuitant (58, b. Callander, spoke Gaelic and English), her son Ralph Eusdon (33, b. Ruskie, Perthshire), stepdaughters Annie, a turkey red dyer (?) (22, b. Stirling), and Jacobina, a turkey red dyer (?) (18, b. Stirling), and granddaughter Margaret (3 weeks, b. Jamestown, Dunbartonshire) lived at 31 Napierston Terrace, Bonhill) [Census]. 7. JACOBINA STEWART CRERAR (b 29 April 1881, Stirling - d 1946 Bonhill, Dumbarton, 65y, ISC493/0131) = William ROSS (b 23 June 1877 Glasgow - d. 19 March 1946 Glasgow)) Jacobina was born at 5:30 am at 72 Port Street, Stirling. Her parents were listed as John Crerar, grocer's porter, and Catherine Stewart. In 1901 she was a turkey red dyer living in Bonhill [Census]. They married 1 April 1907 at 31 Napierston Terrace, Jamestown, Dumbarton. Jacobina was the daughter of John Crerar, Grocer's port (deceased) and Catherine Stewart, both deceased. William was the son of Thomas Ross (b 1853), a press printer, and Annie Graham (b 1858)[#48]. William and Jacobina were both printfield hands. They lived at 60 Levenbank Terrace, Jamestown, Dumbarton from 1909 to 1946. William died of apoplexy at the Royal Infirmary in Glasgow. Jacobina died 30 December 1946 at 60 Levenbank Terrace, Jamestown, Dumbarton of a cerebral hemorrhage and cardiac failure [photo of Jacobina and William] [researched by Cathy Law: LAWFAMILY4@tinyworld.co.uk]. a. Annie Adamson Graham ROSS (b 24 Jan 1909 Bonhill - alive 2003) = Herbert Allan LAW They married 26 August 1929 in Midland, Ontario. b. Rena ROSS c. John ROSS d. Thomas ROSS F. 'Annie' ANN CRERAR (bc 1846 - alive 1855) G. DANIEL CRERAR (d. 1 yr) H. DUNCAN CRERAR (bc 1853 Doune -d. 24 July 1922 Falkirk, 70y, ISC 70479-0377) = Agnes MCARTHUR (bc 1854 Kingston, Lanark -d. 1922 Falkirk, 69y ISC479/0452) Duncan Crerar (bc 1851 Kilmadock): scholar in 1861, living in Doune with John Crerar (bc 1844 Killin), a shoemaker [Census] Their marriage was recorded 27 Aug 1875 Middle Or New Parish, Greenock East, Renfrew [564-2-96]. In 1891 Duncan (38), Agnes (37), Maggie (12), Duncan (10), Catherine (8), Agnes (1) lived in Falkirk Burgh [Census]. In 1901 Duncan, a night watchman (49, b. Doune), Agnes (47, b. Kingston, Lanark), Maggie, an enameller (22, b. Kingston, Lanark), Duncan, a molder (20, b. Kingston, Lanark), Catherine, an enameller (18, b. Kingston, Lanark), Agnes, a student (11), Donald, a student (9, b. Falkirk), Robert, a student (7, b. Falkirk) lived in Falkirk Burgh [Census]. His death record states that he was the son of Donald Crerar and Catherine McIntyre, both deceased. He was a night watchman, married to Agnes McArthur. His son Duncan Crerar reported his death. His final address was Edna (?) Buildings, Falkirk. 1. 'Maggie' MARGARET CAMERON CRERAR (bc 1879 - d 1912 Falkirk, 33y, ISC479-0350) 2. DUNCAN CRERAR (bc 1881 -alive 1922) 3. CATHERINE CRERAR (bc 1883 -alive 1901) 4. WILLIAM CRERAR (b.1887 Falkirk - d. 1890 Falkirk 479-1-365) 5. AGNES CRERAR (b. 1889 Falkirk Burgh 479-1-381 -alive 1901) 6. DONALD CRERAR (bc 1892 Falkirk -alive 1901) 7. ROBERT CRERAR (bc 1894 Falkirk -alive 1901) **AGNES MCARTHUR CRERAR (b 1918 - d 1918 Falkirk, 0y ISC479/0551] **1947 AGNES MCARTHUR CRERAR = ______ GARDNER in Falkirk [IGI 295] ** Isabella Stevenson Sinclair = John Scott ROBSON (b.29 Dec 1886, Moffat - d 1954, Annan). They married 30 August 1922. Their first two daughters: Fiona Janet Crerar ROBSON (b 26 Dec 1925) = 25/6/1947 James Chalmers. Sheila Elizabeth ROBSON (b 28 July 1928) ----- Original Message ----- From: <CRERAR-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <CRERAR-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2004 11:01 PM Subject: CRERAR-D Digest V04 #13

Thank you (as always!), Meg. Here is one family: JOHN CRERAR of Weem (d. before 1855) = 'Betty' Elizabeth MENZIES (bc 1765 Styx, Weem - d. 13 Sept 1855 Easter Ledchroisk, Glenquaich, aged 90) They married 21 Feb 1784 Weem. John was a farmer. Betsy was head of household, widow, aged 86 living in Easter Ledchroisk, Glenquaich, with her daughter Catherine, and Mary Campbell (bc 1808 Weem), Betsy's 43-year-old unmarried niece [1851 Census, Glenquaich]. Elizabeth's death was recorded as follows: 1855 Death Aberfeldy #33 - Elizabeth CRERAR maiden name MENZIES, 90y born Styx, Weem parish lived Aberfeldy all her life. Parents were James MENZIES, Farmer & Ann MENZIES ms MENZIES. Married John CRERAR farmer decd. Children : James, decd at 61y in 1845. Catherine, 69. Peter, 67. Ann, 65. William, 63, John, 59. Donald decd at 53 in 1852. Archibald, 52. Janet, 49. Alexander, 47. Died Sept 13, 1855 9:45am at Easter Ledchroisk, Glenquarich, Weem. Cause of death was Old Age, no medical attendant. Buried Kenmore, certified by Donald Dewar, Sexton. Informant was Arch'd Crerar, son. Reg'd Sept 19 at Aberfeldy. Charles Forbes, Reg'r. 1. JAMES CREARER (chr. 15 Mar 1783 Easter Ledchroisk, Glenquaich,Weem - d 1845, age 61) [OPR] 2. CATHERINE CRERAR (b.1790 - d 14 Aug. 1869 Caolvellich, Glenquaich, Weem) (single) She was 69 at the time of her mother's death. Catherine died of old age at 81. Her death was certified by her brother Archibald of Boltchan, Aberfeldy [Aberfeldy deaths #26]. In 1851, Catherine was an unmarried 63-year-old farm servant 3. Peter CRERAR (chr. 19 Feb 1790 Kenmore - alive 1855) 4. ANN CRERAR (bc 1790 - alive 1855) 4. WILLIAM CRERAR (chr. 12 Nov 1794 Easter Ledchroisk, Glenquaich,Weem - alive 1855) [OPR] 5. WILLIAM CRERAR (chr. 19 Dec 1798 Easter Ledchroisk, Glenquaich,Weem) [OPR]??? 6. JOHN CRERAR (bc 1796 - alive 1855) 7. DONALD CRERAR (bc 1799 - d. 1852) 8. ARCHIBALD CRERAR (chr. 5 Apr 1803 Easter Ledchroisk, Glenquaich, Weem - alive 1869) [OPR] 9. JANET CRERAR (bc 1806 - alive 1855) 10. ALEXANDER CRERAR (chr. 5 Apr 1808 Easter Ledchroisk, Glenquaich,Weem - alive 1855) [OPR] ----- Original Message ----- From: <CRERAR-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <CRERAR-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2004 11:01 PM Subject: CRERAR-D Digest V04 #13

The 1855 Deaths film for Perthshire, parishes 323 to 362 arrived into the local FHC recently. Here are the details, apologies for having to guess so badly at the townland or village names : 1855 Death Aberfeldy #33 - Elizabeth CRERAR maiden name MENZIES, 90y born Styx, Weem parish lived Aberfeldy all her life. Parents were James MENZIES, Farmer & Ann MENZIES ms MENZIES. Married John CRERAR farmer decd. Children : James, decd at 61y in 1845. Catherine, 69. Peter, 67. Ann, 65. William, 63. John, 59. Donald decd at 53 in 1852. Archibald, 52. Janet, 49. Alexander, 47. Died Sept 13, 1855 9:45am at Easter Leadchronk? Glenquarich. Parish of Weem. Cause of death was Old Age, no medical attendant. buried Kenmore, cert'd Donald Dewar, Sexton. Informant was Arch'd Crerar, son. Reg'd Sept 19 at Aberfeldy. Charles Forbes, Reg'r. 1855 Death Kilmadock #57 - Donald CRERAR, Labourer, 42y born Balmore, parish of Kenmore, lived Kilmadock 9 years. Parents were Peter CRERAR, Weaver & Christian ;McLAREN. Married Catherine CRERAR ms McINTYRE decd. Children were Christina, 21. Anne, decd at 2y. Peter, 15. Janet, 14. John, 12. Annie, 9. Daniel decd at 1y. Duncan 5y. died Oct 12, 1855 2pm at Doune of Conica Pictonum, 5 days duration. Cert'd Thomas Inmeison or Jameison, Surgeon, Doune who last saw decd 12 Oct. Buried Doune Churchyard, certd Daniel MacNiven, Undertaker, Doune. Informant was Janer Crerar, her markr [X]. Reg'd Oct 12 at Doune, John Simpson Reg'r. I have the documents if anyone needs a jpg file sent. Meg Greenwood / Oklahoma USA

Received this from a PML search today, it mentioned 2 CRERARs in the newspaper noted, however, I can't yet figure out where this is. I'd think the CUMBERLAND-L Mailing List was a surname list, perhaps its regional ? Can someone let us/me know where this Newspaper was from ? Many thanks ! I snipped most of the Post so I'd not be copy/pasting someone's copyrighted words, only some of them.....check the CUMBERLAND-L archives for the full Post. MegG ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ To: scotquester@bartnet.net Subject: PML Search Result matching crerar Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 19:13:53 -0600 Source: CUMBERLAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: The Maryport Advertiser and Weekly News, June 30, 1882. Kirby Street Academy <snip>        Yesterday the thirteenth annual examination and distribution of prizes, in connection with Mr. SYMINGTON's Academy, Kirkby-street, Maryport, was held in the school-room. <snip> The prizes were afterwards distributed by the Chairman.... <snip> algebra, and Eulcid : John W. CRERAR <snip> Latin and Euclid: Charles CRERAR <snip>

Am headed to Scotland July 8-23 to do some work in Edinburgh and visit my maternal GGrandfather's place of birth in the Orkney Islands off the northern tip of Scotland. Doubt there will be a crisis on this List while I'm gone, Will check my mail a few times while there at a Library or Internet Cafe. Will continue posting whatever I have for this surname when I return. Should anything seem abnormal, like no Posts to your other Lists for awhile, be sure to check the 'yellow box' for announcements anytime. This page is actually called the Help Desk : http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/help.cgi MegG

CRERAR, Dorothy Mary _ Peacefully on Saturday, May 1st, 2004 at age 91. Predeceased by her husband Louis Alexander Crerar and her son Dr. David Alexander Crerar. Loving mother to Dr. Michael Murry Crerar. Proud grandmother of Christopher Byron Crerar and Aurora Alexandra MacRae Crerar. Survived by her sister Eleanor Miller. Friends may call at the TRULL ''NORTH TORONTO'' FUNERAL HOME & CREMATION CENTRE, 2704 Yonge Street (5 blocks south of Lawrence) on Friday from 7 to 9 p.m. A funeral service will be held in the chapel Saturday afternoon at 1 o'clock. Interment York Cemetery. Date Posted: 2004-05-05 a. ALEXANDER CRERAR (d before 1934) = Mary __________ (alive 1934) In 1934 Mary E. (widow of Alexander) was living at 15, 1845 Gerrard, GR 5033. iii. LOUIS ALEXANDER CRERAR (b. 17 Jan 1903 London, England - d 24 May 1981) = Dorothy Mary BIEHL(bc 1913 - d. 1 May 2004) Louis Crerar started as a salesman for Charles E. Musgrave, living at 1004 Danforth Avenue [1925 Directory]. He soon tried to make a living through his beloved piano. In 1934 he was listed as a musician, living at C18, 9 Tennis Crescent (1934) and then at 560 Broadview (1939), the latter with his mother Mary. In the 1930's he played at the Royal York Hotel, Toronto. From 1932 to 1952 Louis Crerar (piano) and Murray Adaskin (violin) formed the Toronto Trio, with John Adaskin, Philip Spivak, Cornelius Ysselstyn, Joyce Onovski, and Marcel Ray successively playing the cello [ photograph in Murray Adaskin: An Annotated Catalogue of his Music, p. 24]. In the 1930's he travelled across the country to Banff, Alberta, to form the Springs Trio with Mr.Adaskin and cellist Cornelius Ysselstyn. His partner recalls this time in an interview: "We were given free passage, room and meals and the grand sum of $200 a week for the three of us," Adaskin recalls. "We considered that a wonderful job at the time. While I was playing, I was studying composition. But times haven't changed much because it's still easier to make a living as a player or a teacher than as a composer." [The Canadian Composer, January, 1993]. There is a photograph of Louis Crerar playing the piano to accompany Frances James at the Banff Springs Hotel, around 1930 [ Murray Adaskin: An Annotated Catalogue of his Music]. When Adaskin moved to Saskatoon in 1952, Crerar assumed leadership of the Toronto Trio. Adaskin's 1946 Sonata No. 1 for Violin & Piano was dedicated to Louis Crerar [ Murray Adaskin: An Annotated Catalogue of his Music, p. 35-36, including a photograph of Crerar and Adaskin inperformance]. Crerar, like Adaskin, was a composer, writing pieces based on Housman poems and Shakespearean plays. His musical creations include "The Street Sounds to the Soldiers' Tread" (1956), setting A.E.Housman's poetry to music. He also wrote "Four Shakespeare Songs" (1972). Copies of both of these folios are preserved at the University of Toronto Music Library. A letter from Louise to his old musical partner Murray Adaskin, congratulating the latter's 1963 String Quartet No. 1 is found in Murray Adaskin: An Annotated Catalogue of his Music. Towards the end of his life he concentrated on composition and worked as a librarian at York University, Toronto (1974). Louis married Dorothy Mary Biehl on 18 July 1942. In 1946 he was back in Toronto, living at 3 Earl Apts. By 1957 he had moved into the family house at 189 Deloraine, where his widow still resided in 2000. In 1975 Louis and Dorothy wrote "The Canadian Crossword Puzzle Book" [in Can.Nat.Library]. Dorothy died in May 2004. Her obituary read: CRERAR, Dorothy Mary: Peacefully on Saturday, May 1st, 2004 at age 91. Predeceased by her husband Louis Alexander Crerar and her son Dr. David Alexander Crerar. Loving mother to Dr. Michael Murry Crerar. Proud grandmother of Christopher Byron Crerar and Aurora Alexandra MacRae Crerar. Survived by her sister Eleanor Miller. Friends may call at the Trull ''North Toronto'' Funeral Home & Cremation Centre, 2704 Yonge Street (5 blocks south of Lawrence) on Friday from 7 to 9 p.m. A funeral service will be held in the chapel Saturday afternoon at 1 o'clock. Interment York Cemetery. They had two children: 1. DAVID ALEXANDER BARNES CRERAR (b. July 23, 1945 Toronto - d. 6 Sept 1994) = Scotia W. MACRAE David Alexander Crerar was a prominent scientist in the field of geology until his early death. He received his B.Sc. from the University of Toronto in 1967, where he received the Governor General's Medal. His graduating thesis was on "The Solubility of quartz in dilute sodium hydroxide solutions at elevated temperatures and pressures." In 1969 he moved to the United States, where he received his Ph.D. in 1974 for the "Solvation and Deposition of Chalcopyrite and Chalcocite Assemblages in Hydrothermal Solutions". For the years before his death he taught geochemistry at Princeton University [Who's Who in Frontier Science, 1985]. His expertise was the geochemistry of high/low temperature aqueous systems [1989 Who's Who in Technology, August, 1989]. He was a member of the Geochemical Society, and the Society of Economic Geologists. Among the awards he received were the Woodrow Wilson Fellowship, the 1989 Shell Foundation Distinguished Term Professorship,and the Lindgren Award (Society of Economic Geologists). He wrote over fifty pieces, primarily in Geochemistry (Hydrothermal & Environmental Geochemistry, and Biogeochemistry). After his death an opaque black metallic sulfide, Crerarite, was named in his honour. He is also honoured by a seminar series in his name at the Pennsylvania State University. He married Scotia W. Macrae 14 August 1971. David and Scotia had one daughter: a. AURORA ALEXANDRA MACRAE CRERAR 2. MICHAEL MURRY CRERAR (b.27 Nov 1947 - alive 2004) Michael lived with his parents while studying biology at York University. In 1985, with the Department of Biology, York University, he published his article "Electrophoretic Analysis of Liver glycogen phosphorylase activation in the freeze-tolerant wood frog." He currently teaches at that faculty. In 1996 he lived in Alliston, Ontario. He has one son: a. CHRISTOPHER BYRON CRERAR (b. 8 June 1980) ----- Original Message ----- From: <CRERAR-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <CRERAR-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2004 9:00 AM Subject: CRERAR-D Digest V04 #9

I have a PML search for the word CRERAR, this showed up today with a listing of deaths from May 5-6, 2004. Nothing more on this was in the Post, there were many other names, but none of interest to this List. I don't subscribe to the CAN-ONT-OBIT List. To view the entire Post or find out more on the project, format or how to follow up on an item of interest, check the Archives of the CAN-ONT-OBITS List at the bottom of this page. "Browse the Archives" for the most current Posts, or "Search the Archives" for 2004 using the keyword CRERAR : http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/CAN/CAN-ONT-OBITS.html Possibly a Canadian contact on this List may know of the death and have details on Dorothy Mary CRERAR. Meg Greenwood / Oklahoma USA ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ To: scotquester@bartnet.net Subject: PML Search Result matching Crerar Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 14:21:45 -0600 Source: CAN-ONT-OBITS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Toronto Star May 5-6, 2004 <snip> CRERAR, Dorothy Mary; 91; Toronto Star; 2004-05-05*JB <snip> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

For those searching for CRERAR or any other surname in the US - The search page for names found in the databanks of the National Cemetery Administration is here. These are Veterans or their family members. http://gravelocator.cem.va.gov/j2ee/servlet/NGL_v1 There are 2 persons with the surname CRERAR in the database, I didn't search for alternative spellings. They have a lot of data on each including years of service. Meg Greenwood / Oklahoma USA

The Post below which turned up today was some sort of legal case for a CRERAR. No idea from the original Post if its a divorce or other civil matter. The Archives will be searchable in a day or two for the complete message if you are interested. There is no further information in the original Post. Contact the Sender with any questions, make sure they know you are not a subscriber to the list, but found the Post in the recent Archives. Meg G http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/NZL/NZ-HAWKES-BAY-N-POVERTY-BAY.html To: scotquester@bartnet.net Subject: PML Search Result matching crerar Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2004 21:21:08 -0700 Source: NZ-HAWKES-BAY-N-POVERTY-BAY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [HB-PB] Fw: HBH 22 Sept 1886 ----- Original Message ----- From: Lynette To: Elaine Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2004 3:37 PM Subject: HBH 22 Sept 1886 <snip> Wed 22 Sept 1886 <snip> RM Court <snip> CRERAR v DINEEN <snip>