The publication of the Tribal Rolls, in 1907, gave the roll number, name of the allottee, age, sex and blood, and operated to a large extent to inform the public, but this information was not sufficient, in fact, it aided only those who, by reason of their familiarity with the workings and records of the Indian Offices, knew how to secure additional information. I emphasize the words "those who knew how" for this reason: only those who had a working familiarity with the procedure and the records of the Dawes Commission, later the office of the Commissioner to the Five Civilized Tribes, and now the office of the Superintendent of the Five Civilized Tribes, knew what to ask for to advise themselves. An investor from Iowa, Illinois or New York knows nothing of these records. He is shown the roll book, published by the Interior Department, and he takes the information there given as a verity. It did not occur to him to make further investigation, in the office of the Commissioner to the Five Civilized Tribes. If he did think of making further investigation he was given a copy of the census card of the particular allottee in which he was interested. He was told that this was the family card, he was not told that a member of that same family might be found on 1, 2, 5, 10 or 15 other cards, as the case might be. In fact, no one knew of this in each particular instance. Those familiar with the records knew that members of the same family might appear on different cards, but what cards no one knew. The publication Tribal Rolls in 1907, gave roll number, name, age, sex and blood. It did not tell us any family connection. John Q. Public wanting to use these rolls did not have a clue how to research. When asking for a census card of a family member, he was told this is the family card, he was not told that that same family might be found on 1, 2, 5, 10 or 15 other cards. Those familiar with the records knew that members of the same family might appear on different cards, but what cards no one knew. AccessGenealogy has put on line the Index of Campbell's Abstract of Creek Indian Census Cards and Creek Freedman Census Cards. Indian Census http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creek/ Freedman Census http://www.accessgenealogy.com/african/freedman/ I can not emphasize enough, please read the Key to Index and Explanatory of the Abstract, these will improve the quality of your search. Here is an example of how these records can help you in your search. Listed below are the records for Cox Indians: On the web page they are listed in alphabetical order, I sorted these to show you the connections. Cox, Annie, 2523. Cox, Louis, 2523. Cox, Maggie, 2523, NB269, NB270, M237. Cox. Nancy, 2523, 3522, NB444. Cox, Burrel, 230. Cox, Isparheeher, 230. Cox, Lydia, 230. Cox, Wm. McKinley, 230. Cox, Cheparnie, 2774. Cox, Culla, 2774. Cox, Kullar, 2774. Cox, Sarah, 2774. Cox, Cooty, 841. Cox, Daniel, 841. Cox, John, 841, 3522. Cox, Lewis, 841. Cox, D. C., 1849. Cox, Jennie, 3633. Cox, Lucy, 1849, 1850. Cox, Lucile, 3522. How to make this work for you. On the index page of the Abstract, there is a search http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creek/ Get out a paper and pen, do a search for a family member, Indian or Freedman. Write down that number and any other number that person might have. Other family members listed with the same number may also have additional numbers. Now do a search using the link above, just putting in the number. In the pages that come up, you will have to do a search of each one for the number, use the find feature of your browser. Next take one of your numbers and go here http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalroll.php put in your ancestors name and Creek tribe. This should produce additional information on your ancestor. If you are taken to a new page with a Search for Dawes Cards, all the better, this usually means that Footnote has scanned this packet and put it online. There is a charge to view and copy these records but it is far below the cost from the National Archives, and you will also have the copies today!! You are welcome to pass this on to friends, family and other lists. Thanks Judy

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Dear Listers, A few years ago my brother participated in the SIZEMORE y-DNA project and, based on his 25-marker test matches, he was predicted to be in haplogroup E3b1a. Our thought-to-be oldest known male ancestor is Arthur SIZEMORE, halfblood Creek Indian. I would very much like to hear from other Creek descendants whose y-DNA results fall into the E3b category. I see familiar Creek-associated names listed in my brother's matches, but most of them do not include a GEDCOM with family information so I don't know if they are Creek, or were in the south Alabama counties of Clarke/Monroe/Baldwin where my family was located. Identifying others with this haplogroup would help us pinpoint our place of origin. It also would provide possibilities for a different surname other than Sizemore, which remains a possibility unless and until we find some actual matches with our surname :-) Thanks, Judy, for taking on yet another challenge with this new list! Regards to all, Evelyn Sizemore Leslie

I have heard that the "shovel teeth" incisors and the extra cusp on the front molar are indications of Native DNA. Could anyone send a link I could share with my dentist? Thanks. EagleLittle Tallahassee **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489