Recently , I heard of making sweet potato "french fries". These were cooked by a white princess for a Cherokee husband. Princess is not the first or last name in this case...:o) Richard B. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Sokol" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2008 8:33 PM Subject: Re: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Serious comment for a change - if you are looking for Upper Creek ancestors > The thought of home made fried sweet potato pie makes me salivate. > > S > > > > > > At 08:21 AM 8/17/2008, you wrote: > >>Good Morning again! >> >>My Creek grandmother really was a master fried pie maker. By the 1970s >>she >>was making over $7000 a year selling home-made dried fruit pies at my >>grandfather's general store. That is the equivalent of about $30,000 >>a year today. >>All of us cousins would go to stay with my grandparents in >>the summer to help >>pick apples, peaches and pears. We would cut and dry the fruit on >>corrugated steel panels in back of the house. >> >>Now, in regard to tracing back Upper Creek ancestors, who always said they >>were Cherokee, but looked very Upper Creek. Upper Creeks look like >>eagles, by >>the way. Hitchiti's look like Chief Tomochichi. >> >>First of all, I have found proof that Muskogean villages in Western >>North >>Carolina and Eastern Tennessee split into factions when the >>Cherokees arrived >>on the scene in the early 1700s. Traditionalists and the elite often >>immigrated to Alabama and set up towns with the same name. Those >>who were "lower >>down the totem pole" tended to stay put and join the Cherokee Alliance, >>beca >>use the Cherokees had a more egalitarian culture at that time. They >>were a new >>hybrid ethnic group without a hereditary leadership once their >>Kitani priests >>were assasinated. >> >>When the Cherokees moved down into NW Georgia at the close of the American >>Revolution, they did not displace existing Abikara & Kusa Creek villages >>located in the vicinity of Rome, Cartersville, LaFayatte, Cedartown and >>Tallapoosa, GA. Oceola was born in an Upper Creek town >>near Tallapoosa. In fact, the >>Abikara Creeks continued to be allies of the Chickamauga Cherokees in the >>bloody war that continued with the Tennessee Militia until 1793. >>Chickamauga was >>originally a Muskogean village. It was the Abikara Creeks who attacked >>Nashville during this war. Andy Jackson was involved in the defense of >>Fort >>Davidson and hated Upper Creeks ever afterward. The Abikara were >>based in the >>Muscle Shoals, AL area, which was then part of Georgia. The >>Cherokee word for >>Creek Indian today is Kusa-agi (Kusa-agi) They use a different word for >>Muskogees. In other words, from the late Revolutionary War period >>forward, the >>Upper Creeks were allies of the Cherokees. >> >>An interesting fact is that I can find no record of Chickamauga Cherokees >>or >>Abikara Creeks attacking Georgia settlements, even though the Chickamauga >>villages were located in Georgia. Abikara Creeks were a hybrid ethnic >>group >>themselves, composed of the remnants of various Muskogean towns in >>Tennessee >>that included true Creeks, Koasati, Alabama, Chickasaw and Yuchi >>elements. That >>is why their war was entirely with the Tennessee, not with the Georgia. >>The >>Abikara claimed Tennessee as their traditional motherland. >> >>By the 1830s, at least 3000 Upper Creeks were living in the Georgia >>Cherokee Nation. The US Army built a fort in Rome, GA specifically >>to try to stem >>the tide of Alabama Creeks fleeing into the Cherokee Nation after >>the Red Stick >>War. The Hitchiti-speaking Georgia Creeks generally wanted nothing to do >>with the Cherokees and went their own way. Distinct Abikara Creek >>villages >>still stood in the Cherokee Nation until the eve of the >>actual Trail of Tears. >>Most Abikara and Kusa Creeks were not listed as Cherokee citizens and >>therefore, were not on the soldiers pickup list. Some cast their >>fate with the >>Cherokees and their descendants are now enrolled as Oklahoma >>Cherokees. Some >>fled back into Alabama or to regions of Georgia and South Carolina >>occupied by >>Friendly Creek state citizens. Many fled into the rugged mountains of NW >>Georgia (where the alleged Bigfoot body was found!) Their >>descendants never left >>the region. Until recently, they would tell people they were Cherokees, >>because Creeks have a reputation for not taking guff off of anybody >>(who? moi?) >> More recently some Upper Creek families have come out of the closet >> and >>admitted that they are actually bloodthirsty Creeks rather than nice, >>submissive Cherokees. LOL >> >>So, if you have an ancestor who was living in Murray, Fannin, Gilmer, >>Pickens, Union or Gordon Counties in Georgia, or Polk County >>in Tennessee, who >>look Upper Creek, but at times told people they >>were Cherokees, the chances >>are that their ancestors were actually Upper Creek refugees from >>the Cherokee >>Trail of Tears, who originally hid out in the Cohutta Mountains. >> >>Richard T. >> >> >> >> >> >>**************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your >>budget? >>Read reviews on AOL Autos. >>(http://autos.aol.com/cars-Volkswagen-Jetta-2009/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00030000000007 >>) >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >>without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >>-- >>No virus found in this incoming message. >>Checked by AVG. >>Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.6.4/1616 - Release Date: >>8/16/2008 5:12 PM > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.6.4/1616 - Release Date: 8/16/2008 > 5:12 PM > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >